Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[mak013]

That's  just it  Why the heck would you require KYC when a user Is about to withdraw his/her funds/profit it doesn't  look fair to me ... it's good to let users know what they are dealing either  a KYC-required or KYC-free right from onset before starting any form of gambling on that particular  casino.
Each gamblers with their taste, some gambler or maybe I should put it this way most gamblers doesn't worry about providing a kyc to casinos only few care about it maybe for privacy reason  so there's nothing to make hidden by casinos  until withdrawal

The moment that they would be asking KYC on the moment that you do withdraw could be only on two possible reasons:

1. Withdrawal amount threshold
2. Violation of terms and conditions

If #1 is something that you do believe that not possible because you are withdrawing a small amount then it would be just that normal that you would be
thinking that you have might violated up something and this is why you do really end up on having that kind of hold.
Actually you wont really be having any worries if you are dealing up with a legit platform or site, but if you are dealing up with something new or havent that been that too popular
then expect or chances that you might be experiencing some potential scam is happening, this is why it would really be always recommended that we should really be sticking into those platforms
on which we know that its been trusted up for quite some time.

Nope. And it is the problem. I tried to remember and understood that i was KYCed always during withdrawal, except 2 times with really random time. The sum was from $50 to $2000 so it doesn`t matter how much money you want to withdraw. The main goal was to freeze my money. I don`t see another reason.
PS. I mostly was KYCed when i began to win. Till i`m losing - nobody interests in my data.

[EarnOnVictor]

You can choose casino with KYC or without it. It is only your decision. I don`t care about KYC and today i think that it becomes new standard of the casino. But we can find casinos without KYC. So, as i said, everyone can choose himself. But KYC during withdrawal is unfair for gamblers. If you want KYC - KYC during the registration. I can prepare all documents to KYC faster. When i win prize and want to get my money i don`t think about KYC or docs i need to KYC.

That's  just it  Why the heck would you require KYC when a user Is about to withdraw his/her funds/profit it doesn't  look fair to me ... it's good to let users know what they are dealing either  a KYC-required or KYC-free right from onset before starting any form of gambling on that particular  casino.
Each gamblers with their taste, some gambler or maybe I should put it this way most gamblers doesn't worry about providing a kyc to casinos only few care about it maybe for privacy reason  so there's nothing to make hidden by casinos  until withdrawal

No. They tell you that they use KYC. But the same time they tell you that they don`t KYC you during the registration to allow you don`t waste time. And it is the main cheat. They don`t ask you questions when you bring them money and lose it, but they you about it when they lose. And, probably try to steal the prize. Not all of them, but all of them steal your time when you want to get your money.

You are making a good point and I am looking forward to a day when there will be the same condition meted out to everybody where the casino will not have the flexibility to hold the KYC but to advise everyone upon registration to complete it immediately before any deposit. This is what I envision that was supposed to be the global standard, instead of casinos under pretence allows you to make deposits without the KYC but won't allow you to withdraw your money due to the lack of KYC completion.

It gets more annoying when you are not asked for the KYC completion when you are losing and keep on adding money to the platform for years, but immediately you are making regular profits from them, they ask you for it, this is also true even if you are withdrawing only the profit and not the deposit. Is the money not coming from them? The same thing goes for the withdrawal, so I don't see fairness in this.

Some casinos as well will make it miserable for some people to be able to complete their KYC, and to some, they will keep on asking for additional documents for no serious reasons other than finding excuses. All these have to be looked into in the future to avoid unjust issues like this.

[bakasabo]

PS. I mostly was KYCed when i began to win. Till i`m losing - nobody interests in my data.

Or you have paid attention on a request to pass KYC only when you were winning. I believe that casinos earn mostly not when gambler lose, but with house edge of every bet. So for them it is not a big difference when they ask KYC. In fact, they warn from the beginning that they might ask to pass KYC. So it should not be a surprise for gambler. Imho gambler should be ready to pass KYC when he makes a deposit, than to gambler and be worried about it and keep that in mind, during the game.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

PS. I mostly was KYCed when i began to win. Till i`m losing - nobody interests in my data.

Or you have paid attention on a request to pass KYC only when you were winning. I believe that casinos earn mostly not when gambler lose, but with house edge of every bet. So for them it is not a big difference when they ask KYC. In fact, they warn from the beginning that they might ask to pass KYC. So it should not be a surprise for gambler. Imho gambler should be ready to pass KYC when he makes a deposit, than to gambler and be worried about it and keep that in mind, during the game.

It seems that @mak013 is misunderstanding the situation with casino. Casinos ask for customer to do KYC because of their regulations. They ask customers to do KYC because they want them to win or lose while gambling. They are doing so because it's compulsory.

@bakasabo, you are right, the house edge of every game has a high percentage for the casino to make profit than the gambler and that is why they keep making more profit than gamblers.

[mak013]

PS. I mostly was KYCed when i began to win. Till i`m losing - nobody interests in my data.

Or you have paid attention on a request to pass KYC only when you were winning. I believe that casinos earn mostly not when gambler lose, but with house edge of every bet. So for them it is not a big difference when they ask KYC. In fact, they warn from the beginning that they might ask to pass KYC. So it should not be a surprise for gambler. Imho gambler should be ready to pass KYC when he makes a deposit, than to gambler and be worried about it and keep that in mind, during the game.

When i lose, i don`t withdraw money, it is logically. May be you`re right, i didn`t calculate my winrate before KYC in every casino. But it seems, that if i lost big sum on the start, i could withdraw money few times before KYC.

PS. I mostly was KYCed when i began to win. Till i`m losing - nobody interests in my data.

Or you have paid attention on a request to pass KYC only when you were winning. I believe that casinos earn mostly not when gambler lose, but with house edge of every bet. So for them it is not a big difference when they ask KYC. In fact, they warn from the beginning that they might ask to pass KYC. So it should not be a surprise for gambler. Imho gambler should be ready to pass KYC when he makes a deposit, than to gambler and be worried about it and keep that in mind, during the game.

It seems that @mak013 is misunderstanding the situation with casino. Casinos ask for customer to do KYC because of their regulations. They ask customers to do KYC because they want them to win or lose while gambling. They are doing so because it's compulsory.

@bakasabo, you are right, the house edge of every game has a high percentage for the casino to make profit than the gambler and that is why they keep making more profit than gamblers.

Of course i`m misunderstanding. Of course casinos ask gamblers KYC because of their regulations. Just one moment - the main part of such "regulations" are during the withdrawal, not when you deposit money. Strange "regulation" isn`t it?

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

PS. I mostly was KYCed when i began to win. Till i`m losing - nobody interests in my data.

Or you have paid attention on a request to pass KYC only when you were winning. I believe that casinos earn mostly not when gambler lose, but with house edge of every bet. So for them it is not a big difference when they ask KYC. In fact, they warn from the beginning that they might ask to pass KYC. So it should not be a surprise for gambler. Imho gambler should be ready to pass KYC when he makes a deposit, than to gambler and be worried about it and keep that in mind, during the game.

When i lose, i don`t withdraw money, it is logically. May be you`re right, i didn`t calculate my winrate before KYC in every casino. But it seems, that if i lost big sum on the start, i could withdraw money few times before KYC.

PS. I mostly was KYCed when i began to win. Till i`m losing - nobody interests in my data.

Or you have paid attention on a request to pass KYC only when you were winning. I believe that casinos earn mostly not when gambler lose, but with house edge of every bet. So for them it is not a big difference when they ask KYC. In fact, they warn from the beginning that they might ask to pass KYC. So it should not be a surprise for gambler. Imho gambler should be ready to pass KYC when he makes a deposit, than to gambler and be worried about it and keep that in mind, during the game.

It seems that @mak013 is misunderstanding the situation with casino. Casinos ask for customer to do KYC because of their regulations. They ask customers to do KYC because they want them to win or lose while gambling. They are doing so because it's compulsory.

@bakasabo, you are right, the house edge of every game has a high percentage for the casino to make profit than the gambler and that is why they keep making more profit than gamblers.

Of course i`m misunderstanding. Of course casinos ask gamblers KYC because of their regulations. Just one moment - the main part of such "regulations" are during the withdrawal, not when you deposit money. Strange "regulation" isn`t it?

Lol, it's crazy but that how it is, man. Casino doesn't care about the losses of their customers and they know that if they make KYC compulsory before deposit, some gamblers may avoid the casino, so they would allow deposit first, leaving the gambler hanging after they have won and wants to make withdrawals.

Some weeks ago, I made on comment on one post that the OP was complaining regarding how a casino promoted on this forum would not allow him to withdraw unless he perform KYC, meanwhile he was allowed to deposit and use the casino with KYC requirement. It is recommended to look out for casino's rule that always state, "we many deem it necessary to ask or request for our customers to perform KYC anytime. "

[mak013]

Of course i`m misunderstanding. Of course casinos ask gamblers KYC because of their regulations. Just one moment - the main part of such "regulations" are during the withdrawal, not when you deposit money. Strange "regulation" isn`t it?

Lol, it's crazy but that how it is, man. Casino doesn't care about the losses of their customers and they know that if they make KYC compulsory before deposit, some gamblers may avoid the casino, so they would allow deposit first, leaving the gambler hanging after they have won and wants to make withdrawals.

Some weeks ago, I made on comment on one post that the OP was complaining regarding how a casino promoted on this forum would not allow him to withdraw unless he perform KYC, meanwhile he was allowed to deposit and use the casino with KYC requirement. It is recommended to look out for casino's rule that always state, "we many deem it necessary to ask or request for our customers to perform KYC anytime. "

I always tell about it. Ok, they don`t KYC you before deposit. I understand that they want our money, they need new clients. But it would be fair to give an opportunity to allow me to start KYC myself, not when i withdraw my prize. I may be far enough from my documents or bills, or smth else they can ask.
PS. I understand that nothing changes, but as for me it is more serious problem than KYC itself.

[bakasabo]

I always tell about it. Ok, they don`t KYC you before deposit. I understand that they want our money, they need new clients. But it would be fair to give an opportunity to allow me to start KYC myself, not when i withdraw my prize. I may be far enough from my documents or bills, or smth else they can ask.
PS. I understand that nothing changes, but as for me it is more serious problem than KYC itself.

But you can start by passing KYC after registration. It might be your initiative to pass KYC and continue gambling, and not wait when they decided to ask for it unexpectedly. Wont it be better? Casinos will ask for KYC anyway, when gambler reaches some point or script triggers. Imho it will be better to get ahead of a system and enjoy the game, then to wait and test if you are going to be asked to pass KYC today, next week or after next withdrawal. Personally I dont mind if some reputed casino has a little bit of my private information. Personally I have never heard stories when a person send documents to casino, and later got a surprise letter from government and tax authorities.

[arwin100]

I always tell about it. Ok, they don`t KYC you before deposit. I understand that they want our money, they need new clients. But it would be fair to give an opportunity to allow me to start KYC myself, not when i withdraw my prize. I may be far enough from my documents or bills, or smth else they can ask.
PS. I understand that nothing changes, but as for me it is more serious problem than KYC itself.

But you can start by passing KYC after registration. It might be your initiative to pass KYC and continue gambling, and not wait when they decided to ask for it unexpectedly. Wont it be better? Casinos will ask for KYC anyway, when gambler reaches some point or script triggers. Imho it will be better to get ahead of a system and enjoy the game, then to wait and test if you are going to be asked to pass KYC today, next week or after next withdrawal. Personally I dont mind if some reputed casino has a little bit of my private information. Personally I have never heard stories when a person send documents to casino, and later got a surprise letter from government and tax authorities.

We just need to know if the casino we are playing does have that requirements. Then after  we know those information and we like the casino then its more better to submit that requirement first so that there would be no other factor that can give us stress especially if we want to withdraw. That's why before any trouble happen then we better submit those information's needed so when crucial times came then we can do all things that important to do without getting bothered by the casino. I also don't mind if reputable casino will ask some piece of information that thing didn't bother me as they can't do anything or get something from me. I don't heard about tax authority rumored but if government will require us to get tax on this activity I will still follow what they order because  I personally don't want to get issue with them.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Of course i`m misunderstanding. Of course casinos ask gamblers KYC because of their regulations. Just one moment - the main part of such "regulations" are during the withdrawal, not when you deposit money. Strange "regulation" isn`t it?

Lol, it's crazy but that how it is, man. Casino doesn't care about the losses of their customers and they know that if they make KYC compulsory before deposit, some gamblers may avoid the casino, so they would allow deposit first, leaving the gambler hanging after they have won and wants to make withdrawals.

Some weeks ago, I made on comment on one post that the OP was complaining regarding how a casino promoted on this forum would not allow him to withdraw unless he perform KYC, meanwhile he was allowed to deposit and use the casino with KYC requirement. It is recommended to look out for casino's rule that always state, "we many deem it necessary to ask or request for our customers to perform KYC anytime. "

I always tell about it. Ok, they don`t KYC you before deposit. I understand that they want our money, they need new clients. But it would be fair to give an opportunity to allow me to start KYC myself, not when i withdraw my prize. I may be far enough from my documents or bills, or smth else they can ask.
PS. I understand that nothing changes, but as for me it is more serious problem than KYC itself.

Lol, better get serious bud, those who run this casino possibly know gamblers more than the gamblers know themselves, the management of every casino understands that if they allow you to kyc at any time you want, you will come, deposit, play, possibly win, withdraw, and this process you and any other typical gambler will repeat over and over again without ever bothering to pass the kyc verification, this is possibly the reason why most of them will wait until you are requesting a withdrawal before the impose the kyc verification on you, knowing that such time it critical for you and you can't avoid complying, else, you will never get your money 😂.

But here is a thing though, I have come to learn to respect casinos that will ask a customer to pass kyc verification immediately after the customer finish signing up, that is, they make it mandatory to pass the kyc verification before you are allowed to even deposit on the casino.
Casinos like this are the ones doing it right.

[milewilda]

I always tell about it. Ok, they don`t KYC you before deposit. I understand that they want our money, they need new clients. But it would be fair to give an opportunity to allow me to start KYC myself, not when i withdraw my prize. I may be far enough from my documents or bills, or smth else they can ask.
PS. I understand that nothing changes, but as for me it is more serious problem than KYC itself.

But you can start by passing KYC after registration. It might be your initiative to pass KYC and continue gambling, and not wait when they decided to ask for it unexpectedly. Wont it be better? Casinos will ask for KYC anyway, when gambler reaches some point or script triggers. Imho it will be better to get ahead of a system and enjoy the game, then to wait and test if you are going to be asked to pass KYC today, next week or after next withdrawal. Personally I dont mind if some reputed casino has a little bit of my private information. Personally I have never heard stories when a person send documents to casino, and later got a surprise letter from government and tax authorities.

We just need to know if the casino we are playing does have that requirements. Then after  we know those information and we like the casino then its more better to submit that requirement first so that there would be no other factor that can give us stress especially if we want to withdraw. That's why before any trouble happen then we better submit those information's needed so when crucial times came then we can do all things that important to do without getting bothered by the casino. I also don't mind if reputable casino will ask some piece of information that thing didn't bother me as they can't do anything or get something from me. I don't heard about tax authority rumored but if government will require us to get tax on this activity I will still follow what they order because  I personally don't want to get issue with them.

Not everything would really be written on terms and conditions and this is where people do usually check it out on which its true but if you are dealing with the wrong place or something a shady website
or into those unheard of then you wont really be able to notice it out since its not written if you do tend to look out for those informations. This is why the key on here is that you should really be that knowing
on where you should really be playing and not really just that simply diving into those sites which not really that popular or not heard of. This is the main reason on why people do really get scammed or being
ending up on holded up with some funds just because they are really that too careless on making deposits just because of some good offers or bonuses on which this causes for them to mess up
entirely on the moment that they have locked up those withdrawals.

This is why we should really be that careful on what we are dealing with and it would really be best that you should really know on where you would be placing up yourself
and not really just that deposit carelessly.

[mak013]

I always tell about it. Ok, they don`t KYC you before deposit. I understand that they want our money, they need new clients. But it would be fair to give an opportunity to allow me to start KYC myself, not when i withdraw my prize. I may be far enough from my documents or bills, or smth else they can ask.
PS. I understand that nothing changes, but as for me it is more serious problem than KYC itself.

But you can start by passing KYC after registration. It might be your initiative to pass KYC and continue gambling, and not wait when they decided to ask for it unexpectedly. Wont it be better? Casinos will ask for KYC anyway, when gambler reaches some point or script triggers. Imho it will be better to get ahead of a system and enjoy the game, then to wait and test if you are going to be asked to pass KYC today, next week or after next withdrawal. Personally I dont mind if some reputed casino has a little bit of my private information. Personally I have never heard stories when a person send documents to casino, and later got a surprise letter from government and tax authorities.

That`s what i`m talking about. Only a part of casinos give an opportunity to start KYC myself. It must be a common practice for all casinos.

I always tell about it. Ok, they don`t KYC you before deposit. I understand that they want our money, they need new clients. But it would be fair to give an opportunity to allow me to start KYC myself, not when i withdraw my prize. I may be far enough from my documents or bills, or smth else they can ask.
PS. I understand that nothing changes, but as for me it is more serious problem than KYC itself.

Lol, better get serious bud, those who run this casino possibly know gamblers more than the gamblers know themselves, the management of every casino understands that if they allow you to kyc at any time you want, you will come, deposit, play, possibly win, withdraw, and this process you and any other typical gambler will repeat over and over again without ever bothering to pass the kyc verification, this is possibly the reason why most of them will wait until you are requesting a withdrawal before the impose the kyc verification on you, knowing that such time it critical for you and you can't avoid complying, else, you will never get your money 😂.

But here is a thing though, I have come to learn to respect casinos that will ask a customer to pass kyc verification immediately after the customer finish signing up, that is, they make it mandatory to pass the kyc verification before you are allowed to even deposit on the casino.
Casinos like this are the ones doing it right.

May be it is so. I don`t have my own casino. I decided this problem making test withdrawals until casino start KYC. But i prefer to have an opportunity to KYC when i want, before i need fast withdrawal.

[Fatunad]

I always tell about it. Ok, they don`t KYC you before deposit. I understand that they want our money, they need new clients. But it would be fair to give an opportunity to allow me to start KYC myself, not when i withdraw my prize. I may be far enough from my documents or bills, or smth else they can ask.
PS. I understand that nothing changes, but as for me it is more serious problem than KYC itself.

Lol, better get serious bud, those who run this casino possibly know gamblers more than the gamblers know themselves, the management of every casino understands that if they allow you to kyc at any time you want, you will come, deposit, play, possibly win, withdraw, and this process you and any other typical gambler will repeat over and over again without ever bothering to pass the kyc verification, this is possibly the reason why most of them will wait until you are requesting a withdrawal before the impose the kyc verification on you, knowing that such time it critical for you and you can't avoid complying, else, you will never get your money 😂.

But here is a thing though, I have come to learn to respect casinos that will ask a customer to pass kyc verification immediately after the customer finish signing up, that is, they make it mandatory to pass the kyc verification before you are allowed to even deposit on the casino.
Casinos like this are the ones doing it right.

May be it is so. I don`t have my own casino. I decided this problem making test withdrawals until casino start KYC. But i prefer to have an opportunity to KYC when i want, before i need fast withdrawal.

But as much as possible on which it would really be better that we could really be able to play without doing any KYC. Just like the rest been saying above that there are really that still
platforms on which you could really be able to still play and withdraw without needing up some verification on which this is really that something good or more better in compared
into those platforms who are already that becoming that too centralized like Stake.com based up on experience.

For you to be able to make some withdrawal then you would be needing up to have that verified ID for you to pass that verification because if you dont able to pass it up
then there's no way that you could really be able to withdraw. Just like on what been said above that it isnt really that shocking that they do become  that getting
more strict and strict as the years passin by and into the next one.

[_BlackStar]

-snip-

But as much as possible on which it would really be better that we could really be able to play without doing any KYC. Just like the rest been saying above that there are really that still
platforms on which you could really be able to still play and withdraw without needing up some verification on which this is really that something good or more better in compared
into those platforms who are already that becoming that too centralized like Stake.com based up on experience.

If you don't expect KYC - then maybe you don't expect the casino to have a license either. KYC and Licensing are a package deal - meaning that when casinos strive to operate legally, they must comply with established rules. The government expects to implement KYC on various platforms so that they can eradicate many cases of money laundering or other illegal activities - but in essence, you can choose your own path.

Between licensed and unlicensed casinos - both also have risks. You should be very good at determining which casinos can be trusted based on their reputation and other users' experiences - this is a must. Casinos that have KYC rules do not make it completely safe for you to play at the casino - while non-KYC casinos are the same.

[Antotena]

Or you have paid attention on a request to pass KYC only when you were winning. I believe that casinos earn mostly not when gambler lose, but with house edge of every bet. So for them it is not a big difference when they ask KYC. In fact, they warn from the beginning that they might ask to pass KYC. So it should not be a surprise for gambler. Imho gambler should be ready to pass KYC when he makes a deposit, than to gambler and be worried about it and keep that in mind, during the game.

If house edge is low, I mean too low to favour players, they will win and if it's too high, then players will make much loses isn't. A reasonable house edge is what can make player loss to be in the bearest minimum otherwise there is going to be losses from players.

To completely eliminate all this kinds of problems that will comes later, if a casino has a KYC and you want to play there with peace of mind without anything obstructing withdrawals later, it's better to do the KYC even before making the deposit, this will save from explanations and the frustration that will come later if they start rejecting your KYC because they doubt you and how you won the game and if you can't, it's better to gamble in a place where kyc will never require.