Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[uchegod-21]

Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play.
However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons.

This is why it is always advisable to complete KYC before you play in any casino. Whenever it is related to Casino, they will only be strict during withdrawals. For the business to remain in operation, deposit must be more than withdrawal and that is why some casinos deliberately frustrate withdrawal. It is always nice to read the casino ToS as regards withdrawal and KYV before playing.

Your response reminds me of the thread I recently replied to where the guy complained that a well-known casino did not allow him to complete the KYC despite being willing to do so at the earliest time possible. This got me discouraged and I don't know the best advice to issue in this regard anymore. But truly, if a casino can allow you to complete the KYC as early as possible, it is the best thing to do to avoid a later issue.

As for the withdrawal, I think many of them are still very flexible about it, if you are not the type that wins too much or withdraws a huge amount of money, grace may still cover you to delay the KYC, otherwise, it's good you prepare for the worst. Nevertheless, I learned from you today about more deposit than withdrawal plans of casinos, well, it's certainly an unfair practice and I don't believe any serious regulator will allow that. This is why they ensure that companies are well-capitalised before beginning operation, so there is no good reason for that practice in a sane clime.

Glad to know you learn something from my post above. We learn everyday from observations and personal experiences. It is when we understand that all the casinos are there for business, whether old or new, reputable or non reputable that we will be more careful.
There has always been a recommendation to only play in reputable casinos, and if this happens, we are lessening competition in the industry which will surely go against the gamblers. If we all continue to patronize the older casinos, how will the new ones survive.
Myself, i play primarily on Rollbit because I owe them that patronage. I don't encounter any problems with them. But I also like to spare small bucks on new casinos.

Back to the KYC issue, according to margkaisa, special validations are always in place when you win big. Infact, I learnt that some casinos will start asking for account statements and more.

[Kavelj22]

By checking the allegations section here on the forum, you can quickly notice the large number of topics that tell stories of users who found themselves required to complete the KYC identity verification procedures despite having done so previously at all its levels. The platform may argue that this can be considered as part of updating data, but it is clear that the requirement to complete the procedures again is only in cases where the user wants to withdraw a large amount of money that he won. In some cases, the user has been a loyal customer of the casino for several years and has not faced any problems, noting that all his withdrawals throughout his period of use have been for small amounts.

Personally, I consider these procedures arbitrary if their purpose is to disrupt withdrawals, but at the same time I cannot deny their usefulness in relation to the platform’s policy.

[Odusko]

There is absolutely nothing weird about a reputable casino failing to complete a user's kyc verification request, the reason for the failure will usually be attached to what ever email or message they sent to the user.

It's one thing to provide a KYC documents for casino to verify, but is another thing for those documents to be able to get verified, because you may think that you have provided a good document to the KYC team but after examination of the document their can fine out that the document did not comply with the requirements and that could result into you KYC not going through at most times, I have not experienced such troubles getting my account verified before because before I initiate the process, I make sure to have read and understood all that is required and providing them accordingly, the recent cryptocurrency casino I did KYC verifications on in recent time is stake and the verification process was asap, because of the document I provided for that verification.

For the several reputable online casinos I personally have used, they usually don't surprise their users except those that want to be surprised, that is, if you read their documents on withdrawals, they usually explain how accounts with certain level of verifications are limited to certain amount of withdrawals every 24 hours, week or month, and if you are in a low level kyc rank and are going to withdraw funds that is above the limit for that rank, you will be forced to submit documents that is required for the next level of their account verification levels, failure to submit the requested document is what usually lead to the casino's failure to verify the user and process his or her withdrawal.

Majority of those that run into KYC issues are those that failed to read the terms of service of casinos and just assuming that everything goes, the reason you don't expirence such is because you don't failed into the category of lazy cryptocurrency casino users who can't read the terms of service of a casino before making attempts to play on them and when they run into issues they come back to give such feedback as this threads.

[shasan]

It will be very disappointing and will make people very distrustful of casinos again and lazy to play, even at other casinos that are growing into good casinos.

And we should indeed use a casino that has a clear reputation besides Stake also I often use Duelbits, Bitcasino, Rollbit because they are casinos that have been very trusted in my eyes to this day, their problem solving with several complaints from their customers is really very good.

I don't want the 1xbit incident to happen again on the forum, they built a good reputation here then they cheated a lot of people here.

There are a lot of gambling sites that are trusted especially those gambling sites which is listed on the signature campaign and which are running their campaign. I agree with you that 1xbit scammed a lot of funds from a lot of people by using their reputation though they could not build up their reputation in a good way. Yet they scammed and ran out of the forum.

[Mahanton]

Trusted casino will verify your KYC very quickly provided you have provided correct and true documents. There is no point for the casino to deny the KYC if there is no fault. Why would casino deny anyone genuine KYC and not let them play.
However, there are some scam casino who will use KYC as a tool to deny our payments. They will allow us to deposit without KYC but when it comes to withdraw they may ask for KYC and if the amount is big, they may deny the KYC without any reasons.

This is why it is always advisable to complete KYC before you play in any casino. Whenever it is related to Casino, they will only be strict during withdrawals. For the business to remain in operation, deposit must be more than withdrawal and that is why some casinos deliberately frustrate withdrawal. It is always nice to read the casino ToS as regards withdrawal and KYV before playing.

Your response reminds me of the thread I recently replied to where the guy complained that a well-known casino did not allow him to complete the KYC despite being willing to do so at the earliest time possible. This got me discouraged and I don't know the best advice to issue in this regard anymore. But truly, if a casino can allow you to complete the KYC as early as possible, it is the best thing to do to avoid a later issue.

As for the withdrawal, I think many of them are still very flexible about it, if you are not the type that wins too much or withdraws a huge amount of money, grace may still cover you to delay the KYC, otherwise, it's good you prepare for the worst. Nevertheless, I learned from you today about more deposit than withdrawal plans of casinos, well, it's certainly an unfair practice and I don't believe any serious regulator will allow that. This is why they ensure that companies are well-capitalised before beginning operation, so there is no good reason for that practice in a sane clime.

Glad to know you learn something from my post above. We learn everyday from observations and personal experiences. It is when we understand that all the casinos are there for business, whether old or new, reputable or non reputable that we will be more careful.
There has always been a recommendation to only play in reputable casinos, and if this happens, we are lessening competition in the industry which will surely go against the gamblers. If we all continue to patronize the older casinos, how will the new ones survive.
Myself, i play primarily on Rollbit because I owe them that patronage. I don't encounter any problems with them. But I also like to spare small bucks on new casinos.

Back to the KYC issue, according to margkaisa, special validations are always in place when you win big. Infact, I learnt that some casinos will start asking for account statements and more.

Read and read or simply making up some research in talking about other peoples experience on which this would really be something that will be that relevant or something that would really be helpful
on which you would really be making yourself getting able to avoid those potential problems on which we know that this could really save you up. There are really that people who are really that
wanting to read up first real time feedbacks and experiences before they would really be taking up some action on which this is something recommended but well each person would having that different approach
on things on which you be thinking on what are the things that will really be giving out such negative impact and things that could give out some potential alerts to yourself.

KYC is really that becoming a trend now or something that becomes standard specially into these kind of type of business on which we know that this would really be something relevant.
You would really be finding that non KYC is really that interesting or something that preferred but we do know that they could really be having that sudden integration on which it will really be that
piss you out because you dont really like KYC in the first place. Wether we do like it or not, we would really be accepting out such integration.

[bangjoe]

It will be very disappointing and will make people very distrustful of casinos again and lazy to play, even at other casinos that are growing into good casinos.

And we should indeed use a casino that has a clear reputation besides Stake also I often use Duelbits, Bitcasino, Rollbit because they are casinos that have been very trusted in my eyes to this day, their problem solving with several complaints from their customers is really very good.

I don't want the 1xbit incident to happen again on the forum, they built a good reputation here then they cheated a lot of people here.

There are a lot of gambling sites that are trusted especially those gambling sites which is listed on the signature campaign and which are running their campaign. I agree with you that 1xbit scammed a lot of funds from a lot of people by using their reputation though they could not build up their reputation in a good way. Yet they scammed and ran out of the forum.

To be honest if you only look at the side of a project holding marketing with signature campaigns is also something that is not the main reason that he has that credibility, we know that 1xbit held it on the forum to get some good reviews about them but they cheated after they really got the market do forum.

So we need to also look at other aspects to make us more confident that a casino is safe to use.

[bakasabo]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

[Z_MBFM]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

You can never guarantee that all casino sites will keep users' KYC documents secure. This is why many are afraid to kyc on gambling sites. Because there are many users who are very big businessmen who play gambling to spend their free time but they don't want anyone to know their private documents. And many people launder money through casino sites so he never wants to submit his documents anywhere in that field. Because it can be dangerous for him. as a normal person I never fear to kyc gambling sites. Because I don't use much money for gambling. take only fun from gambling. But always careful to do KYC.  Don't kyc unless it's a reputable casino site

[bakasabo]

Those who use casinos for money laundering are different category of people, they nowhere wants to flash their documents. But for a regular gambler, what is the fear of sending his KYC to a casino? I believe, that those people who want and try to hack casinos, search for money, rather than try to steal casino clients KYC. I havent also heard that users private data was leaked from casinos. I dont follow the idea that KYC should be passed everywhere, but we must accept that documents can be leaked everywhere, where we send them. But then what, keep documents at home in safe box all the time? For example people are not afraid to send their passport via email to traveling agencies when they book vacation, but afraid to do it for casinos, when casinos have much better security than an employee of a traveling agency, whos password probably is qwerty and is kept under keyboard.

[delfastTions]

Those who use casinos for money laundering are different category of people, they nowhere wants to flash their documents. But for a regular gambler, what is the fear of sending his KYC to a casino? I believe, that those people who want and try to hack casinos, search for money, rather than try to steal casino clients KYC. I havent also heard that users private data was leaked from casinos. I dont follow the idea that KYC should be passed everywhere, but we must accept that documents can be leaked everywhere, where we send them. But then what, keep documents at home in safe box all the time? For example people are not afraid to send their passport via email to traveling agencies when they book vacation, but afraid to do it for casinos, when casinos have much better security than an employee of a traveling agency, whos password probably is qwerty and is kept under keyboard.

And in my opinion, leakage of personal data is possible from any casino simply for the reason that the gambling industry itself is a Mecca for all kinds of scammers and criminals.  Perhaps this sector of the economy cannot be compared with, for example, the tourism business, where, of course, there are much fewer scammers.  For this reason, any personal data provided by the casino, in my opinion, represents a kind of trace from the player and information that he is a player in gambling games.  And in the future, taking into account modern technologies, such information can be used not only for marketing purposes in the form of targeted casino advertising, but can also be used, for example, by an employer to study a candidate for some good job.  Well, you understand that in this case, the passion for gambling really reduces the chance of getting a job.  And this influences the employer’s decision in a completely different way than if he finds out personal information about tourist trips.  It’s just that in public opinion, the passion for gambling is quite close when compared, for example, with alcoholism.  Unfortunately, this is still the case and usually causes negative associations among people who know about your passion for gambling.

[Unsoldier]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

I think some gamblers may fear that the casino will reveal their identity to relatives or acquaintances and those people will find out about their gambling addiction. In this case, it is crucial to remember that reputable and trustworthy casinos are obligated to maintain the confidentiality of their clients' data and not disclose information to third parties without the client's consent.

[mak013]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

I think some gamblers may fear that the casino will reveal their identity to relatives or acquaintances and those people will find out about their gambling addiction. In this case, it is crucial to remember that reputable and trustworthy casinos are obligated to maintain the confidentiality of their clients' data and not disclose information to third parties without the client's consent.

It is strange enough as for me. We have much more chances to see our data in the internet i think. The casino don`t cares about you and your family. Even if it is scam casino - they sell your data to everybody who ready to pay. And i don`t think that they sell it with comment like "this is user of the XXX casino and he lost here 5.000 bucks"

[ultrloa]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

I think some gamblers may fear that the casino will reveal their identity to relatives or acquaintances and those people will find out about their gambling addiction. In this case, it is crucial to remember that reputable and trustworthy casinos are obligated to maintain the confidentiality of their clients' data and not disclose information to third parties without the client's consent.

If they are in that stage I guess this activity is not surprising to their relatives since for sure that they would notice those changes happening in those person. And I also think that this is less concerns by gambler since they are more affected on any possibilities like their identity will be used for scamming or anything related to illegal activities. So hopefully those reputable that we choose to trust our data's is really secured and even if they decide to shutdown their operation they would still assure the identity of their loyal costumer is safe and there's nothing bad will happen to them. This is really the problem online since we don't know on how long we are still safe since anytime there's there's always a threat that we might get compromise if there's crazy things happen especially to the platform we submit our KYC details.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

I think some gamblers may fear that the casino will reveal their identity to relatives or acquaintances and those people will find out about their gambling addiction. In this case, it is crucial to remember that reputable and trustworthy casinos are obligated to maintain the confidentiality of their clients' data and not disclose information to third parties without the client's consent.

Lol 😂, it's very funny to even imagine that a casino I've passed kyc on will (without my consent or notifying me first) release my personal information to some random person out there who may have possibly claimed to be related to me, such have never been heard of and I can't even imagine it ever happening, and it doesnt really matter whether a casino is reputable or not.

What I have to say here is that, casinos can never release kyc information of their customer to an individual third party without the consent of the customer, except its a situation where the customer's account is involved in a serious fraud and the third party requesting release of that customer's personal data is a government body or agency.

What I do know that some casinos often do is sell the data to other companies who may use it to send targeted ads to the customers, but casinos that usually engage in such activities can't be trusted and should be avoided at all cost.

[Unsoldier]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

I think some gamblers may fear that the casino will reveal their identity to relatives or acquaintances and those people will find out about their gambling addiction. In this case, it is crucial to remember that reputable and trustworthy casinos are obligated to maintain the confidentiality of their clients' data and not disclose information to third parties without the client's consent.

If they are in that stage I guess this activity is not surprising to their relatives since for sure that they would notice those changes happening in those person. And I also think that this is less concerns by gambler since they are more affected on any possibilities like their identity will be used for scamming or anything related to illegal activities. So hopefully those reputable that we choose to trust our data's is really secured and even if they decide to shutdown their operation they would still assure the identity of their loyal costumer is safe and there's nothing bad will happen to them. This is really the problem online since we don't know on how long we are still safe since anytime there's there's always a threat that we might get compromise if there's crazy things happen especially to the platform we submit our KYC details.

I agree with you. It's also possible that gamblers can develop paranoia about revealing their identity. They do not realize that their relatives already notice changes in their behavior and probably already know about the problem. But the gambler continues to believe that he is doing everything right and no one is aware of his addiction.

[EarnOnVictor]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

Well, being reputable doesn't mean one's data cannot be leaked in your domain. The casino's management may not know about it, it could be some bad employee(s), and truly, data are being leaked for money daily and it's enough reason to answer your question, some people will indeed be scared because of this. However, I see no reason why a gambler who signed up with a KYC casino should not complete the KYC, after all, he knew before signing up there. Better still, he can move to the no-KYC casino if he is afraid of the KYC, and if the no-KYC casino later becomes a KYC type, he can still abandon them and move to the next. There are decentralised casinos as well, they will never ask you for the KYC, so why not go there to avoid issues of the KYC?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

Well, being reputable doesn't mean one's data cannot be leaked in your domain. The casino's management may not know about it, it could be some bad employee(s), and truly, data are being leaked for money daily and it's enough reason to answer your question, some people will indeed be scared because of this. However, I see no reason why a gambler who signed up with a KYC casino should not complete the KYC, after all, he knew before signing up there. Better still, he can move to the no-KYC casino if he is afraid of the KYC, and if the no-KYC casino later becomes a KYC type, he can still abandon them and move to the next. There are decentralised casinos as well, they will never ask you for the KYC, so why not go there to avoid issues of the KYC?

To be honest with you, I sometimes or most times actually; wonder why some gambler are really so scared of submitting their personal information/document for kyc verification, in the world we live in today, there are several other greater dangers to be afraid of, and submitting one's personal document to a reputable casino or any other platform for kyc verification is not really one of them, or the least of them.

And speaking of decentralized casino, this ones are yet to reach the standard of centralized casinos, decentralized casinos are still lacking alot of features, as well as liquidity, and this is possibly why gamblers are not adopting it yet, and having to spend on transaction fees on every bet on a decentralized casino is no joke too..

[Odusko]

To be honest with you, I sometimes or most times actually; wonder why some gambler are really so scared of submitting their personal information/document for kyc verification, in the world we live in today, there are several other greater dangers to be afraid of, and submitting one's personal document to a reputable casino or any other platform for kyc verification is not really one of them, or the least of them.

And speaking of decentralized casino, this ones are yet to reach the standard of centralized casinos, decentralized casinos are still lacking alot of features, as well as liquidity, and this is possibly why gamblers are not adopting it yet, and having to spend on transaction fees on every bet on a decentralized casino is no joke too..

I think it far from what you said to be gamblers fear for complaining about KYC demands, I think the worries here is that even when the documents are submitted, some of those casino's won't process the gambler demands to get verified, and this is what we have being discussing here in this thread because some of those cryptocurrency casino that do demend for KYC documents midway have the preplanned mission which is to hold those players money and Walking away with it, we have several of them already in the space and we can name them but for some reason we may hold on for now, but most of them will never care what the community thinks about them so no need to write about them regarding their dubious acts

Much more or less, if a casino is a reputable casinos, and KYC us mentioned from the beginning then the gambler will not have any problems with to go through that process and no one will complain like we are doing right now.

[topbitcoin]

To be honest with you, I sometimes or most times actually; wonder why some gambler are really so scared of submitting their personal information/document for kyc verification, in the world we live in today, there are several other greater dangers to be afraid of, and submitting one's personal document to a reputable casino or any other platform for kyc verification is not really one of them, or the least of them.

And speaking of decentralized casino, this ones are yet to reach the standard of centralized casinos, decentralized casinos are still lacking alot of features, as well as liquidity, and this is possibly why gamblers are not adopting it yet, and having to spend on transaction fees on every bet on a decentralized casino is no joke too..

I think it far from what you said to be gamblers fear for complaining about KYC demands, I think the worries here is that even when the documents are submitted, some of those casino's won't process the gambler demands to get verified, and this is what we have being discussing here in this thread because some of those cryptocurrency casino that do demend for KYC documents midway have the preplanned mission which is to hold those players money and Walking away with it, we have several of them already in the space and we can name them but for some reason we may hold on for now, but most of them will never care what the community thinks about them so no need to write about them regarding their dubious acts

Much more or less, if a casino is a reputable casinos, and KYC us mentioned from the beginning then the gambler will not have any problems with to go through that process and no one will complain like we are doing right now.

In addition, there are also other concerns that arise in my mind as a gambler who provides my personal data to do KYC verification at a casino, where it is international and I come from a different country, by system if it is verified then our data will enter into their data base at the casino as a customer, but what is feared for me personally is that the casino could sell my data on the black market without me knowing, then my data is used for fraud in another country, this will be something that will make it difficult for me in the future.

Where some people also because of the fear of their data being misused, they prefer to become anonymous customers at the casino.

[Wakate]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

Well, being reputable doesn't mean one's data cannot be leaked in your domain. The casino's management may not know about it, it could be some bad employee(s), and truly, data are being leaked for money daily and it's enough reason to answer your question, some people will indeed be scared because of this. However, I see no reason why a gambler who signed up with a KYC casino should not complete the KYC, after all, he knew before signing up there. Better still, he can move to the no-KYC casino if he is afraid of the KYC, and if the no-KYC casino later becomes a KYC type, he can still abandon them and move to the next. There are decentralised casinos as well, they will never ask you for the KYC, so why not go there to avoid issues of the KYC?

We can always move from a KYC casino to a non KYC casino when we noticed that the casino we are using to bet has become a KYC casino. But sometimes we might enjoy the company and the fun we do get from the casino especially when we have been using it for a very long time before it became a KYC casino. Also since we have been using the particular casino for a while now, we could have some funds there that could make us think otherwise. This could be a critical decision that will need continuous agitations before we decide to either stop using the casino or abide by the new terms and conditions that require all users to do their KYC.