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[tabas]

This is a typical problem of most crypto casinos. They promise privacy, and no KYC, but as soon as an account gets flagged, KYC is now required, and then users are banned later. Although casinos are justified in risk management, it is selective and done without clear up front regulations at the expense of trust. Lack of transparency is the key issue. KYC policies, terms of licensing and Bitcointalk reputation threads should be always checked by the players to differentiate between the reliable casinos and the ones that alter the rules after accepting the deposits.

You've said it, they're selective and if they have a plan to ban their customer then they shouldn't just ask for KYC in the first place. But that's how they do it and that's why it's really the best idea to use and choose the casino that's not very sensitive with anonymity.

So here’s the thing, even if you comply with KYC, there’s still no guarantee the casino will continue to serve you. That’s why, for some players, it’s better to stick with casinos that aren’t so strict, especially if you value consistency.

I agree, they're the better option if they're not so strict at all. They're free to implement kyc verification but, there's no other thing that includes after complying.

Btw, I like to share a bet for NBA tonight. Under 250.5 total score looks a safe bet for me with that 1.90.

[stadus]

Honestly, with a line like this, 99% of the time I’d take the over.
But since I didn’t pick this game, I actually hope I’m wrong here so you end up winning.

In the Jazz’s last game, they had their lowest scoring output this season with just 95 points. If they struggle to score again, this bet should cash pretty easily.

Btw, I like to share a bet for NBA tonight. Under 250.5 total score looks a safe bet for me with that 1.90.

[dimonstration]

This is a typical problem of most crypto casinos. They promise privacy, and no KYC, but as soon as an account gets flagged, KYC is now required, and then users are banned later. Although casinos are justified in risk management, it is selective and done without clear up front regulations at the expense of trust. Lack of transparency is the key issue. KYC policies, terms of licensing and Bitcointalk reputation threads should be always checked by the players to differentiate between the reliable casinos and the ones that alter the rules after accepting the deposits.

Getting flagged is a different story. Having a privacy friendly casino doesn’t mean users are free to violate the ToS. Rules are still applied and KYC are just required for users that abused the casino while regular users without involving on unfair activity will usually doesn’t have a problem when it comes to KYC.

Abusers are mixing to regular user acting like they don’t do wrong that’s why they spread negativity about casino KYC despite being a privacy friendly to create confusion among all members.

You will less likely encounter a problem if you don’t violate the ToS.

[acuyaa]

Hello guys!,

I had been troubling with them since Jan 9. They requested KYC.
I done it in 5 mins.

In their KYC page it was written less than one hour it would complete. Anyway I have waited, 3 days.
Then just now they sent an email to me regarding their breach of T & C.

Here is the pictures of my account. Please tell me what did I ?


After all before January I played them on November. After november I deposited them 3 x 300 USDT.

never withdraw money on this time frame. But they reduced my account to my latest deposit. I did not win on this time range apprx 40-50 usdt lost comparing to my deposits.

This is the bookie which that kind of.

Please tell me What's my fault ?

Is it worth to play here by you guys ?

Please think twice.


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[mitchr4]

A few months later though, I suddenly received an email saying I needed to complete KYC. I complied, and after that they sent me my remaining balance and told me I couldn’t gamble anymore.

So basically they just ban you after they identify yourself, they not just remove you on their platform but hostage or take your personal information as well. Would be glad if you share what casino is this, there's so many casino in this space and we need to filter out those good from those bad ones.

Since he previously mentioned Sportsbet, I assume he's referring to that casino. I don't know for sure whether this is the Sportsbet we usually know in this forum or a different one.

The interesting thing is that the balance refund and account restriction must have specific reasons behind them. If the casino didn't explain the exact cause, this clearly shows a lack of transparency on their part.

They did return his remaining balance, which indicates there was no intention to hold back his funds. However, the trade off is that he's already completed KYC and his personal information is now in the casino's hands. I'm just curious did the casino provide a specific reason why his account was restricted after KYC, or did they just send an email without a detailed explanation?

[acuyaa]

Also please tell me how can I contact with their license firm ?

I did not see on their website.

Which license has got them ?

[PX-Z]

Since he previously mentioned Sportsbet, I assume he's referring to that casino. I don't know for sure whether this is the Sportsbet we usually know in this forum or a different one.

The interesting thing is that the balance refund and account restriction must have specific reasons behind them. If the casino didn't explain the exact cause, this clearly shows a lack of transparency on their part.

They did return his remaining balance, which indicates there was no intention to hold back his funds. However, the trade off is that he's already completed KYC and his personal information is now in the casino's hands. I'm just curious did the casino provide a specific reason why his account was restricted after KYC, or did they just send an email without a detailed explanation?

Now that you mentioned it, i reread the post and yes, it sounds like the sportsbet casino, but there are lots of them actually, the famous one is .io domain, then there is .one both have ann thread here except for the com.au domain. Let's wait if he will share the casino name, naming a casino is not to tarnish them since it came from his experience.

[maydna]

A few months later though, I suddenly received an email saying I needed to complete KYC. I complied, and after that they sent me my remaining balance and told me I couldn’t gamble anymore.

So basically they just ban you after they identify yourself, they not just remove you on their platform but hostage or take your personal information as well. Would be glad if you share what casino is this, there's so many casino in this space and we need to filter out those good from those bad ones.

This is a typical problem of most crypto casinos. They promise privacy, and no KYC, but as soon as an account gets flagged, KYC is now required, and then users are banned later. Although casinos are justified in risk management, it is selective and done without clear up front regulations at the expense of trust. Lack of transparency is the key issue. KYC policies, terms of licensing and Bitcointalk reputation threads should be always checked by the players to differentiate between the reliable casinos and the ones that alter the rules after accepting the deposits.

But that is strange case. He complied and completed KYC but they told him that he can't gamble anymore. Usually, after someone doing KYC and gets verified, he can playing gambling without restrictions.

Unless there is something wrong he did and made him break the rules without he knows. It should be more explanations to him why he couldn't gambling on that casino.

Hopefully, he can solves his problem soon. But he can selects other casinos if he doesn't feel comfortable.

[tabas]

Honestly, with a line like this, 99% of the time I’d take the over.
But since I didn’t pick this game, I actually hope I’m wrong here so you end up winning.

In the Jazz’s last game, they had their lowest scoring output this season with just 95 points. If they struggle to score again, this bet should cash pretty easily.

Btw, I like to share a bet for NBA tonight. Under 250.5 total score looks a safe bet for me with that 1.90.

I hope that this bet would win. But I am not as good as you with your analysis but each game is unpredictable. Let's see if this will be under than over. I am kind of hesitant to take the over and that's why it is the choice as per my calculation. Hopefully, this does have a good ending tonight.

Is it worth to play here by you guys ?

In my experience, it is.

[PX-Z]

But that is strange case. He complied and completed KYC but they told him that he can't gamble anymore. Usually, after someone doing KYC and gets verified, he can playing gambling without restrictions.

Unless there is something wrong he did and made him break the rules without he knows. It should be more explanations to him why he couldn't gambling on that casino.

There are a few similar cases on the Scam Accusations board. Usually, once a casino finds something in a user's account activity, whether the user's defense is valid or not, their decision becomes final.

Best case, the casino allows a refund or withdrawal of the remaining balance. Worst case, they don't, which, unfortunately, aligns with Betpanda's policy.

[Peanutswar]

I'm guess I'm way too advanced to make a prediction yet. Even though they have a match against Newcastle this 13th, I'll make an early bet this match of Man United vs Man City seems there's a momentum right now after their consecutive draws from Sunderland, Chelsea, and their latest win on FAC against Exeter with a 10:1 well, I can say that there's a team gap or skill gap already.

Likewise with Man United came from a draw match but instead they ended up lossing to Brighton.

[BlackBaron]

Casinos definitely do this for a reason, whether it's regulatory or otherwise. So, I agree with you that sooner or later, they'll require KYC. Gambling is currently growing rapidly, and when something grows rapidly, it attracts the attention of various parties, such as the government.

Casinos also usually have verification stages that must be completed, which determine withdrawal limits. For example, if someone completes level 1 verification, the maximum withdrawal is a certain amount. If they want to increase the limit, they must complete the next level of verification. And so on.

The reason for making these rules and regulations is so that no one can organize activities like money laundering through casino sites. Although it was possible to gamble without kyc on casino sites earlier, now all sites are gradually making it mandatory, but in the new situation, sites allow gambling without kyc, but they can ask for kyc at any time, so there is fear there too. For this, kyc should now be considered as a normal matter and gambling should be done on a reputable site by doing KYC at least level 1

I think so too. The biggest reason is to avoid these kinds of things, which are indirectly very detrimental. However, there are other reasons why casinos ultimately agree to this. They don't want to be accused of money laundering and so on. This is a very fundamental reason, actually.

Even in the worst case, we might be the ones accused of money laundering. A friend of mine experienced this, though not at a casino, but at CEX. He was accused of money laundering and his account was permanently blocked. Luckily, CEX was willing to return his money. The problem was that the amount wasn't large, so it was a bit odd.

[rat03gopoh]

But that is strange case. He complied and completed KYC but they told him that he can't gamble anymore. Usually, after someone doing KYC and gets verified, he can playing gambling without restrictions.

Not necessarily, his identity could be blacklisted. Therefore, KYC serves as additional confirmation that this user should be blocked.

KYC here can reveal a person's history of dealing with any casino. This is usually handled by the game provider, but it's not limited to a specific universal database that all casinos may subscribe to.

[topbitcoin]

A few months later though, I suddenly received an email saying I needed to complete KYC. I complied, and after that they sent me my remaining balance and told me I couldn’t gamble anymore.

So here’s the thing, even if you comply with KYC, there’s still no guarantee the casino will continue to serve you. That’s why, for some players, it’s better to stick with casinos that aren’t so strict, especially if you value consistency.

Its bad experience to feel but there are definitely things like this that happen when we are not on the right site or indeed we are on a site that doesnt really operate properly.  Because when we do KYC and after that we can no longer play and even get banned, it is clear what the purpose of KYC is for and it cannot be denied that this can be a danger.

But this can be a good lesson for us to be able to choose the site well because these kinds of things can happen even if we do gambling or are on the site with the aim of being like gamblers in general without any intention of cheating.

[bettercrypto]

A few months later though, I suddenly received an email saying I needed to complete KYC. I complied, and after that they sent me my remaining balance and told me I couldn’t gamble anymore.

So basically they just ban you after they identify yourself, they not just remove you on their platform but hostage or take your personal information as well. Would be glad if you share what casino is this, there's so many casino in this space and we need to filter out those good from those bad ones.

Of course, we don't want that to happen unless you know for a fact you're doing something wrong at the casino. But if they do it without a deep reason, it’s really unfair to the gambler, especially if they ban your account right after you submit your KYC.

Some casinos really do this to their players, and we never truly know the reason why. Even though we know they have the right to do whatever
they want without explaining it to us, it still feels like we're completely defenseless against their decisions.

[Pmalek]

But that is strange case. He complied and completed KYC but they told him that he can't gamble anymore. Usually, after someone doing KYC and gets verified, he can playing gambling without restrictions.

No, that's not always the case. I have seen in the Scam Accusation board many examples where players are asked to undergo identity verification. Once they submit all the documents the casino asks for, the site locks their account, confiscates all their money, or returns only the deposits without the winnings. Casinos often know what you did even before they ask for KYC. The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

[memehunter]

The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

Yeah, most of the times it is just an additional proof against your (player's) fraudulent activities. Fraudsters uses many times fake/stolen KYC documents and casino's cheating prevention department can also use that to train their employees about innovations in cheating/forging lol.
I still do not think that reputed casinos share this with other casinos or even any such formal/informal co-operation exist. I mean, this is a very competitive industry after all  . 

[Renampun]

Also please tell me how can I contact with their license firm ?

I did not see on their website.

Which license has got them ?

It has been explained here where Betpanda is registered.

[notblox1]

No, that's not always the case. I have seen in the Scam Accusation board many examples where players are asked to undergo identity verification. Once they submit all the documents the casino asks for, the site locks their account, confiscates all their money, or returns only the deposits without the winnings. Casinos often know what you did even before they ask for KYC. The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

This days it is not so hard to get fake documents and selfies from someone else, so that wont stop real scammers or hackers from scamming.
I know of cases when  some bad casinos refused to return deposited money even for players who did nothing wrong, and they later lost in court and had to pay extra.
Most casinos have the right to ban everyone and close their accounts if this is stated in their ToS.

[Ultegra134]

No, that's not always the case. I have seen in the Scam Accusation board many examples where players are asked to undergo identity verification. Once they submit all the documents the casino asks for, the site locks their account, confiscates all their money, or returns only the deposits without the winnings. Casinos often know what you did even before they ask for KYC. The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

This is actually a fairly common case, we've seen quite a few users (mostly newbies signing up) and complaining that after they submitted KYC, they were then blocked and not allowed to access their accounts/funds anymore. I'm also guessing that it's because, after confirming their identity, are associating them with malicious activities that the casino acknowledged beforehand, but didn't have the necessary evidence, perhaps it's a user who's multiaccounting or has done it again in the past. The truth is that we can never fully know what has happened from both sides.