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[Pmalek]

But that is strange case. He complied and completed KYC but they told him that he can't gamble anymore. Usually, after someone doing KYC and gets verified, he can playing gambling without restrictions.

No, that's not always the case. I have seen in the Scam Accusation board many examples where players are asked to undergo identity verification. Once they submit all the documents the casino asks for, the site locks their account, confiscates all their money, or returns only the deposits without the winnings. Casinos often know what you did even before they ask for KYC. The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

[memehunter]

The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

Yeah, most of the times it is just an additional proof against your (player's) fraudulent activities. Fraudsters uses many times fake/stolen KYC documents and casino's cheating prevention department can also use that to train their employees about innovations in cheating/forging lol.
I still do not think that reputed casinos share this with other casinos or even any such formal/informal co-operation exist. I mean, this is a very competitive industry after all  . 

[Renampun]

Also please tell me how can I contact with their license firm ?

I did not see on their website.

Which license has got them ?

It has been explained here where Betpanda is registered.

[notblox1]

No, that's not always the case. I have seen in the Scam Accusation board many examples where players are asked to undergo identity verification. Once they submit all the documents the casino asks for, the site locks their account, confiscates all their money, or returns only the deposits without the winnings. Casinos often know what you did even before they ask for KYC. The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

This days it is not so hard to get fake documents and selfies from someone else, so that wont stop real scammers or hackers from scamming.
I know of cases when  some bad casinos refused to return deposited money even for players who did nothing wrong, and they later lost in court and had to pay extra.
Most casinos have the right to ban everyone and close their accounts if this is stated in their ToS.

[Ultegra134]

No, that's not always the case. I have seen in the Scam Accusation board many examples where players are asked to undergo identity verification. Once they submit all the documents the casino asks for, the site locks their account, confiscates all their money, or returns only the deposits without the winnings. Casinos often know what you did even before they ask for KYC. The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

This is actually a fairly common case, we've seen quite a few users (mostly newbies signing up) and complaining that after they submitted KYC, they were then blocked and not allowed to access their accounts/funds anymore. I'm also guessing that it's because, after confirming their identity, are associating them with malicious activities that the casino acknowledged beforehand, but didn't have the necessary evidence, perhaps it's a user who's multiaccounting or has done it again in the past. The truth is that we can never fully know what has happened from both sides.

[Rruchi man]

I know of cases when  some bad casinos refused to return deposited money even for players who did nothing wrong, and they later lost in court and had to pay extra.

Suing an online crypto casino will not be easy; many gamblers will never have that option. It must be a very difficult process considering the location difference. To sue a casino, it will be possible mostly when you are in the same location as where the casino has its license. So if you are in a different location, a legal process will cost a lot of money and, to many gamblers, be next to impossible.

Most casinos have the right to ban everyone and close their accounts if this is stated in their ToS.

The terms used in every casino's ToS can easily be manipulated by a legal team in favor of the casino. In some casino ToS, there are terms that also will make you unable to take them to court, and when you accepted their ToS without going through it, or going through it and not understanding it, you gave them rights.

[Z_MBFM]

No, that's not always the case. I have seen in the Scam Accusation board many examples where players are asked to undergo identity verification. Once they submit all the documents the casino asks for, the site locks their account, confiscates all their money, or returns only the deposits without the winnings. Casinos often know what you did even before they ask for KYC. The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

This is actually a fairly common case, we've seen quite a few users (mostly newbies signing up) and complaining that after they submitted KYC, they were then blocked and not allowed to access their accounts/funds anymore. I'm also guessing that it's because, after confirming their identity, are associating them with malicious activities that the casino acknowledged beforehand, but didn't have the necessary evidence, perhaps it's a user who's multiaccounting or has done it again in the past. The truth is that we can never fully know what has happened from both sides.

Not only about KYC but all the reports I have seen against a casino site are done from newbie accounts. I think these are nothing but spamming. I am talking about how those who do not know about this forum and are not in this forum, after facing any problem on a casino site, suddenly know about this forum and come here and report about that site where that site is promoted in different places. For this I do not give importance to any newbie's report unless they can post some kind of valid proof

[Ultegra134]

Not only about KYC but all the reports I have seen against a casino site are done from newbie accounts. I think these are nothing but spamming. I am talking about how those who do not know about this forum and are not in this forum, after facing any problem on a casino site, suddenly know about this forum and come here and report about that site where that site is promoted in different places. For this I do not give importance to any newbie's report unless they can post some kind of valid proof

This is mostly true, in 9 out of 10 reported cases, it's from newbie accounts, but on the other hand, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. The logic behind it is that they have trouble reaching them through support (scripted responses, no solutions etc.) and resort to other measures to catch their attention, negative publicity is always harmful to a casino's reputation, whether the report is legit or not. Thus, we shouldn't be quick to judge by the user's rank, but on the evidence they provide, but even then, we can't know for sure both sides.

[xLays]

I won one of betpanda contests on telegram, but I did not receive the prize because I did not meet deposit and didn't wagered for requirements for that contest. I thought I had completed wagering requirement and made deposit, but after checking I confirmed that I did not. I feel sorry for joining contest without meeting the requirement.

Good thing is betpanda redrew the winner so there would still be winner. They are really strict with deposit and wager requirements .

[Questat]

I won one of betpanda contests on telegram, but I did not receive the prize because I did not meet deposit and didn't wagered for requirements for that contest. I thought I had completed wagering requirement and made deposit, but after checking I confirmed that I did not. I feel sorry for joining contest without meeting the requirement.

Good thing is betpanda redrew the winner so there would still be winner. They are really strict with deposit and wager requirements .

If I may ask, how much is the prize you’re supposed to receive if you meet the minimum requirement?

I wasn’t even aware they had a contest on Telegram. Did they announce it here on the forum as well, or was it posted only in their Telegram channel?

[logfiles]

I won one of betpanda contests on telegram, but I did not receive the prize because I did not meet deposit and didn't wagered for requirements for that contest. I thought I had completed wagering requirement and made deposit, but after checking I confirmed that I did not. I feel sorry for joining contest without meeting the requirement.

Good thing is betpanda redrew the winner so there would still be winner. They are really strict with deposit and wager requirements .

Sorry about that. I know what it means to participate in a contest only to realize later that you actually did not fulfil some of the requirements. I happened to me a couple of times last year and I even gave contests a break 

I think they are strict so they can curb cheats.

[BitMaxz]

I won one of betpanda contests on telegram, but I did not receive the prize because I did not meet deposit and didn't wagered for requirements for that contest. I thought I had completed wagering requirement and made deposit, but after checking I confirmed that I did not. I feel sorry for joining contest without meeting the requirement.

Good thing is betpanda redrew the winner so there would still be winner. They are really strict with deposit and wager requirements .

Which contest do you mean on Telegram?
I join some of their contests, like the price prediction contest, but there are no requirements on my first win. I can withdraw my winning amount without the wagering requirements, and then the 2nd time I win again, but that time I can't withdraw it because it needs to be wagered 1x before you can withdraw.

How exactly didn't you receive the prize? Do you mean you received nothing on your Betpanda account? Because they are going to send it directly to your account, and it needs to be wagered 1x to be able to withdraw it.
Or maybe they have additional rules or requirements added to those who win? If they added that, then you need to deposit so that you can gamble the amount you win and meet the 1x wager. If you are lucky enough to hit a big multiplier, you can withdraw them all after wagering 1x.

[khaled0111]

I have seen in the Scam Accusation board many examples where players are asked to undergo identity verification. Once they submit all the documents the casino asks for, the site locks their account, confiscates all their money, or returns only the deposits without the winnings. Casinos often know what you did even before they ask for KYC.

That’s correct, and in most cases, based on what they are accusing you of, it’s easy to tell whether they are asking you to verify your identity to help resolve your case or just because they know for sure that you breached their terms and need to know who you are (your real identity) so they can identify you in case you create a new account or share their findings with other casinos (pretty sure casinos cooperate wth each other to identify cheaters and abusers and they have a long list of blacklisted users).

[MusaMohamed]

That’s correct, and in most cases, based on what they are accusing you of, it’s easy to tell whether they are asking you to verify your identity to help resolve your case or just because they know for sure that you breached their terms and need to know who you are (your real identity) so they can identify you in case you create a new account or share their findings with other casinos (pretty sure casinos cooperate wth each other to identify cheaters and abusers and they have a long list of blacklisted users).

Casinos have all information they need from user account and bet data, so if they asked for KYC, it's like a red flag. It's very true with non scam casinos that don't pull their KYC request and KYC card as their favorite tools for scamming against users.

With legit casinos, when they ask for KYC on a user, the most common reason is they already saw something suspicious with that account, and KYC is like one of their ways to confirm what they are suspecting against that user. In most cases, casinos are right and their actions after KYC document submitted can be predicted.

With cheaters, when they got a KYC request, they must know that it's mostly done with their accounts and money.
With legit users, likely they will go through KYC well and get no issue with accounts and funds.

[Mandoy]

No, that's not always the case. I have seen in the Scam Accusation board many examples where players are asked to undergo identity verification. Once they submit all the documents the casino asks for, the site locks their account, confiscates all their money, or returns only the deposits without the winnings. Casinos often know what you did even before they ask for KYC. The KYC request is just there to connect someone's wrongdoings with their real identity, which they can then keep on file or share with gaming partners.

This is actually a fairly common case, we've seen quite a few users (mostly newbies signing up) and complaining that after they submitted KYC, they were then blocked and not allowed to access their accounts/funds anymore. I'm also guessing that it's because, after confirming their identity, are associating them with malicious activities that the casino acknowledged beforehand, but didn't have the necessary evidence, perhaps it's a user who's multiaccounting or has done it again in the past. The truth is that we can never fully know what has happened from both sides.

Not only about KYC but all the reports I have seen against a casino site are done from newbie accounts. I think these are nothing but spamming. I am talking about how those who do not know about this forum and are not in this forum, after facing any problem on a casino site, suddenly know about this forum and come here and report about that site where that site is promoted in different places. For this I do not give importance to any newbie's report unless they can post some kind of valid proof

Verification by casinos is an actual occurrence and some clients lose their access to their money after KYC. Nonetheless, most of the accusations are a result of unsubstantiated new stories, which are doubtful. That is why proofs are highly valued in scamming reports. It is easy to judge cases fairly, with the help of screenshots, details of transactions, and clear explanations. Casinos we should be wary of, but so also are all unproven claims.

[Pmalek]

I still do not think that reputed casinos share this with other casinos or even any such formal/informal co-operation exist. I mean, this is a very competitive industry after all  . 

When I said that they may share such information with their gaming partners, I was thinking more of game providers and sports betting providers and not with competitor casinos. But it's also common that one company owns two or more online casinos. When that is the case, perhaps those platforms cooperate and work together to battle fraud and learn from each other's experiences, both positive and negative.

[Lakai01]

I still do not think that reputed casinos share this with other casinos or even any such formal/informal co-operation exist. I mean, this is a very competitive industry after all  . 

This is certainly the case for casinos that belong to a larger corporation.

However, I don't believe that competitors share such information with each other.

On the one hand, this is highly sensitive information that is not easy to store and keep secure. Imagine if a casino were hacked and someone posted this information online... On the other hand, as you rightly say, it is an extremely competitive market where companies fight hard for customers' attention. In such markets, companies usually only disclose as little information to their competitors as is absolutely necessary.

[melinoe]

I still do not think that reputed casinos share this with other casinos or even any such formal/informal co-operation exist. I mean, this is a very competitive industry after all  . 

When I said that they may share such information with their gaming partners, I was thinking more of game providers and sports betting providers and not with competitor casinos. But it's also common that one company owns two or more online casinos. When that is the case, perhaps those platforms cooperate and work together to battle fraud and learn from each other's experiences, both positive and negative.

Even if they do so, they can't tell about it outright.

Usually each platform is under different entities (firms, groups of firms, so on), even though they are, in fact, connected.

[xandry]

Please tell me What's my fault ?

Is it worth to play here by you guys ?

Please think twice.

I think you understand that playing on gambling sites comes with the potential for problems if you win. Any casino can start making claims at any time, like a magician getting rabbits. Your entire message history is linked to disputes with various casinos, and this is unlikely to be a coincidence. 

[Mahdirakib]

Also please tell me how can I contact with their license firm ?
I did not see on their website.
Which license has got them ?

Betpanda claims to operate under Star Bright Media SRL, but they don't have the license validator link available on their site. Another casino, Punkz.com is also owned and operated by Star Bright Media SRL, and they have a license validator link available on their platform, which is from Anjouan. So, you have to reach Anjouan Gaming if you want to contact the license authority of Betpanda.