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[Sanitough]

You really can’t blame Rollbit for that. They’re a regulated casino and they’re just following the rules set by their regulators. A lot has changed in the last five years, KYC is way stricter now and more countries are adopting tighter policies. If those changes don’t work in your favor, you don’t really have a choice. You either accept it or move on and find another casino that’s still willing to cater to you. That’s just how the space is evolving.  

You're absolutely right. I can't blame Rollbit at all for this; they just follow the rules. I respected that and ended my relationship with them. But unfortunately, while looking for alternatives, Betpanda unfairly withheld my $600.

You say it’s unfair, but do you really think they scammed you? Because I don’t see you creating a scam accusation against them.

It might feel unfair on your side, sure, but could it be that they just enforced their TOS on players like you? Usually, if someone truly feels scammed, they file a complaint and let the community decide. Since I don’t see that happening here, it looks to me like both parties agreed to the outcome, even if one side wasn’t happy about it.

[stadus]

Since I don’t see that happening here, it looks to me like both parties agreed to the outcome, even if one side wasn’t happy about it.

Every casino probably has scam accusations at some point, even the most popular ones, so that’s not really surprising.
What matters more is that they’re still around, still answering questions, and still running things day to day.

For Betpanda, this is just one of the casinos that doesn’t require KYC for regular gamblers, and that’s already an advantage compared to others that end up using KYC as an excuse to hold or take players’ money. If someone really felt cheated, especially serious cases, they would usually create a detailed thread explaining what happened. Since there’s none from the user you quoted, I don’t think the comments should be taken too seriously.

[Lakai01]

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It might feel unfair on your side, sure, but could it be that they just enforced their TOS on players like you?

This is exactly what casinos want to avoid, as accusations on sites such as Trustpilot or Casinoguru quickly appear in Google searches and would deter new and inexperienced users who want to play on a particular platform.

That's why support is usually quite helpful and provides information relatively quickly when KYC problems or denied payouts occur, explaining why this happened.

Of course, this doesn't prevent the players affected from making a scam accusation anyway. However, the support chats that are posted often make it very clear what the problem is... and in most cases, it's simply the user's own fault.

[tabas]

Hope you wouldnt experience like me, its annoying even in small amounts.
If I could play on Rollbit, I wouldn't be using this crappy site, but I can't because of the country I live in.

That's sad, you've got still a lot of options with the other casinos if you think that you're having a bad experience. Because with mine, I haven't experienced any bad thing with betpanda. While the choice is in ours, you're free to look out for the other options that you can find on this board. You've got a lot of it and just check if they're allowed in your country. And thanks for hoping that I won't experience the same thing as yours but, hopefully that it will be better in your end after the experience you've got.

[Odusko]

Hope you wouldnt experience like me, its annoying even in small amounts.
If I could play on Rollbit, I wouldn't be using this crappy site, but I can't because of the country I live in.

That's sad, you've got still a lot of options with the other casinos if you think that you're having a bad experience. Because with mine, I haven't experienced any bad thing with betpanda. While the choice is in ours, you're free to look out for the other options that you can find on this board. You've got a lot of it and just check if they're allowed in your country. And thanks for hoping that I won't experience the same thing as yours but, hopefully that it will be better in your end after the experience you've got.

I don't know why some gambler's that make comments over here complain about a casino restriction and seeing that as limitations to their gambling instead making use of the available alternatives that they have around, this forum is filed with reputable sport bookie's and casinos that offers a lot of competitive odds around the market and one can easily choose from among any of them to play on.

[Sanitough]

Of course, this doesn't prevent the players affected from making a scam accusation anyway. However, the support chats that are posted often make it very clear what the problem is... and in most cases, it's simply the user's own fault.

KYC really has a big impact on gamblers when using a casino. Once it’s proven that you violated something, your funds are already at risk because the account will most likely be closed. Some casinos do a full refund, some only half, and others just freeze everything.

They’ll usually say they’ll forward the case to their regulators, or at least that’s what’s written in the TOS. The thing is, they can always justify their actions on paper, but players are still left confused and frustrated, even if we already knew the risks of gambling on a platform where we might eventually fail KYC once they decide to ask for it.

[Lakai01]

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They’ll usually say they’ll forward the case to their regulators, or at least that’s what’s written in the TOS. The thing is, they can always justify their actions on paper, but players are still left confused and frustrated, even if we already knew the risks of gambling on a platform where we might eventually fail KYC once they decide to ask for it.

As a customer, however, you are not quite as vulnerable as your post might suggest at first glance.

Casinos must obtain a license in order to operate at all. As we all know, some licenses are easier to obtain than others. These licenses not only specify what a casino is allowed to do and what it is not allowed to do, but also regulate how customer funds are handled. For example, these funds may not simply be confiscated. If a casino violates this, its license can be revoked and the casino must cease operations.

So if you are affected by an unauthorized withdrawal of funds, you can certainly take legal action, although the casino will also be interested in finding a solution so as not to jeopardize its license. However, the whole thing is certainly not fun and requires both legal fees and a lot of time.

[maknyos]

Of course, this doesn't prevent the players affected from making a scam accusation anyway. However, the support chats that are posted often make it very clear what the problem is... and in most cases, it's simply the user's own fault.

KYC really has a big impact on gamblers when using a casino. Once it’s proven that you violated something, your funds are already at risk because the account will most likely be closed. Some casinos do a full refund, some only half, and others just freeze everything.

They’ll usually say they’ll forward the case to their regulators, or at least that’s what’s written in the TOS. The thing is, they can always justify their actions on paper, but players are still left confused and frustrated, even if we already knew the risks of gambling on a platform where we might eventually fail KYC once they decide to ask for it.

It's a great idea if a casino can refund funds before freezing an account, even if it's only half the available funds. However, this is rare. Casinos typically freeze accounts and their balances, and even permanently block accounts that violate their terms and conditions.
Casinos don't usually do this quickly, they take a longer period of time before deciding to freeze/block an account permanently. This means they're taking steps according to standard operating procedures. However, many users are dissatisfied and end up accusing the casino of fraud, even though they themselves are at fault.

[Vaculin]

It's a great idea if a casino can refund funds before freezing an account, even if it's only half the available funds.

It’s almost like a bargain, honestly. In my case, if I believe I should be given the full amount but the casino only gives half, I wouldn’t like that at all.

But if I didn’t expect to get anything, like when funds are frozen unexpectedly, and they still offer half, then I’d actually call that a generous casino. At that point, they’re already bending their own rules just to keep the gambler somewhat satisfied. As gamblers, we’re well aware of what we’re doing, sometimes we even try to outsmart the casino by twisting their own TOS against them, claiming they failed to implement something properly and caused us trouble. ^{I’ve seen quite a few users do that.}

[Sanitough]

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They’ll usually say they’ll forward the case to their regulators, or at least that’s what’s written in the TOS. The thing is, they can always justify their actions on paper, but players are still left confused and frustrated, even if we already knew the risks of gambling on a platform where we might eventually fail KYC once they decide to ask for it.

As a customer, however, you are not quite as vulnerable as your post might suggest at first glance.

Casinos must obtain a license in order to operate at all. As we all know, some licenses are easier to obtain than others. These licenses not only specify what a casino is allowed to do and what it is not allowed to do, but also regulate how customer funds are handled. For example, these funds may not simply be confiscated. If a casino violates this, its license can be revoked and the casino must cease operations.

So if you are affected by an unauthorized withdrawal of funds, you can certainly take legal action, although the casino will also be interested in finding a solution so as not to jeopardize its license. However, the whole thing is certainly not fun and requires both legal fees and a lot of time.

We don’t really know the exact rules between the casino and their license provider. What we do know is that they’re granted a license so they can operate legally, and in theory the license provider is there to make sure users are protected.

As gamblers, all we really see are the TOS written on the casino site. Those TOS should be aligned with their licensing agreement and shouldn’t violate it. That’s why, when we complain and the casino doesn’t respond properly, the next step is supposed to be going to their regulator so they can step in and decide what’s fair. The problem is, most cases never really reach that level anymore.

[mitchr4]

It's a great idea if a casino can refund funds before freezing an account, even if it's only half the available funds.

It’s almost like a bargain, honestly. In my case, if I believe I should be given the full amount but the casino only gives half, I wouldn’t like that at all.

But if I didn’t expect to get anything, like when funds are frozen unexpectedly, and they still offer half, then I’d actually call that a generous casino. At that point, they’re already bending their own rules just to keep the gambler somewhat satisfied. As gamblers, we’re well aware of what we’re doing, sometimes we even try to outsmart the casino by twisting their own TOS against them, claiming they failed to implement something properly and caused us trouble. ^{I’ve seen quite a few users do that.}

Honestly, the best thing to do is read the TOS carefully before depositing. Don't abuse bonuses and make sure to follow the rules. If an account gets frozen and they offer a refund  even though this rarely happens just take it and leave. In most cases, it's the user's fault for not being careful.
Casinos need to protect their platform, but they also need to keep their players happy. Like Vaculin said, getting half your money back can actually be considered generous if you're the one who broke the rules. If they offer you a partial refund take it, it's better than nothing.

[tbct_mt2]

Honestly, the best thing to do is read the TOS carefully before depositing. Don't abuse bonuses and make sure to follow the rules. If an account gets frozen and they offer a refund  even though this rarely happens just take it and leave. In most cases, it's the user's fault for not being careful.
Casinos need to protect their platform, but they also need to keep their players happy. Like Vaculin said, getting half your money back can actually be considered generous if you're the one who broke the rules. If they offer you a partial refund take it, it's better than nothing.

It does not need to be bonus abusement or exploitation but all users need to read terms of a bonus program very carefully to know about promised bonus and conditions to claim it. Before registering an account, funding that account, doing enough searching and reading is very important as a new casino can use bonus program like a hook to attract users and if they are a scam casino, it's a trap to find victims.

I don't mean Betpanda.io is doing this as they already have a good business with enough time of operation to show its security, quality and reputation.

[leonair]

It's a great idea if a casino can refund funds before freezing an account, even if it's only half the available funds.

It’s almost like a bargain, honestly. In my case, if I believe I should be given the full amount but the casino only gives half, I wouldn’t like that at all.

But if I didn’t expect to get anything, like when funds are frozen unexpectedly, and they still offer half, then I’d actually call that a generous casino. At that point, they’re already bending their own rules just to keep the gambler somewhat satisfied. As gamblers, we’re well aware of what we’re doing, sometimes we even try to outsmart the casino by twisting their own TOS against them, claiming they failed to implement something properly and caused us trouble. ^{I’ve seen quite a few users do that.}

Honestly, the best thing to do is read the TOS carefully before depositing. Don't abuse bonuses and make sure to follow the rules. If an account gets frozen and they offer a refund  even though this rarely happens just take it and leave. In most cases, it's the user's fault for not being careful.
Casinos need to protect their platform, but they also need to keep their players happy. Like Vaculin said, getting half your money back can actually be considered generous if you're the one who broke the rules. If they offer you a partial refund take it, it's better than nothing.

If for some reason someone's account is restricted for playing casino games, then the sites that allow the player to withdraw the money in his account are the trusted ones. Especially I got this option on stake . com when my kyc was canceled and I was asked to do kyc again. And at that time I took that opportunity and withdrew the money. So in such a situation, first of all, to keep your deposited money safe, you should immediately withdraw it and then go to the next step.

[topbitcoin]

It's a great idea if a casino can refund funds before freezing an account, even if it's only half the available funds. However, this is rare. Casinos typically freeze accounts and their balances, and even permanently block accounts that violate their terms and conditions.
Casinos don't usually do this quickly, they take a longer period of time before deciding to freeze/block an account permanently. This means they're taking steps according to standard operating procedures. However, many users are dissatisfied and end up accusing the casino of fraud, even though they themselves are at fault.

Casinos do not go overboard when freezing accounts because they must have considered many things including the offense committed so that in the end when the account is proven guilty even if there is a lot of money in the account everything will look quite difficult to recover because it will be considered as evidence of fraud or misconduct from their site.
It's just like when a police officer catches a thief with evidence and it would be ridiculous when the evidence obtained is given to the thief even if it's only half of it.

The slightest violation will definitely have consequences especially when we are in a casino and do some things to benefit ourselves even though violating the ToS is actually already leading to serious things in a business.

[dzungmobile]

Casinos do not go overboard when freezing accounts because they must have considered many things including the offense committed so that in the end when the account is proven guilty even if there is a lot of money in the account everything will look quite difficult to recover because it will be considered as evidence of fraud or misconduct from their site.
It's just like when a police officer catches a thief with evidence and it would be ridiculous when the evidence obtained is given to the thief even if it's only half of it.

It is a severe action against user accounts which can trigger panic in their users and sometimes panic and uncontrolled responses from their users. It potentially results in negative effect on their casino reputation so all business companies must avoid such consequences as most a possible.

Betpanda as an experienced and successful online gambling company knows how to operate their business, how to provide smooth, convenient and comfortable service to their users without sudden cards for account freeze, fund freeze or anything similar or more severe than that. If they do anything against a user account, they must have many reasons for that severe account related restriction.

[stadus]

Betpanda as an experienced and successful online gambling company knows how to operate their business, how to provide smooth, convenient and comfortable service to their users without sudden cards for account freeze, fund freeze or anything similar or more severe than that. If they do anything against a user account, they must have many reasons for that severe account related restriction.

They have a good rating here, https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.bitpanda.com

Most of the new comments are positive. There are still some negative ones, but that’s pretty normal for casinos, they always have haters.

What I noticed from the feedback is that a lot of users are happy with the way Betpanda works. No KYC required, just make an account and gamble. It’s very simple with Betpanda.

[PX-Z]

Betpanda as an experienced and successful online gambling company knows how to operate their business, how to provide smooth, convenient and comfortable service to their users without sudden cards for account freeze, fund freeze or anything similar or more severe than that. If they do anything against a user account, they must have many reasons for that severe account related restriction.

They have a good rating here, https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.bitpanda.com

Most of the new comments are positive. There are still some negative ones, but that’s pretty normal for casinos, they always have haters.

What I noticed from the feedback is that a lot of users are happy with the way Betpanda works. No KYC required, just make an account and gamble. It’s very simple with Betpanda.

You mean this one https://www.trustpilot.com/review/betpanda.io? that linked you provided is too different and is not casino related service. While betpanda trustpilot review is not so good, they have more negative reviews than positive and even the new ones which opposed by what you have said by whatever reason they experience, most users here say otherwise.

[mitchr4]

Betpanda as an experienced and successful online gambling company knows how to operate their business, how to provide smooth, convenient and comfortable service to their users without sudden cards for account freeze, fund freeze or anything similar or more severe than that. If they do anything against a user account, they must have many reasons for that severe account related restriction.

They have a good rating here, https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.bitpanda.com

Most of the new comments are positive. There are still some negative ones, but that’s pretty normal for casinos, they always have haters.

What I noticed from the feedback is that a lot of users are happy with the way Betpanda works. No KYC required, just make an account and gamble. It’s very simple with Betpanda.

I think you shared the wrong Trustpilot link. That's for Bitpanda (crypto exchange), not Betpanda (casino). They're two different platforms.

[noorman0]

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While betpanda trustpilot review is not so good, they have more negative reviews than positive and even the new ones which opposed by what you have said by whatever reason they experience, most users here say otherwise.

Players only want reviews if they've had a bad experience to push the resolution process in a positive direction or at least move it up the ticket queue, but they don't even want to leave the game tab while enjoying it.

Maybe it's time we had an independent standard for evaluating the reviews out there, such as how many negative reviews a casino can tolerate per year to be considered good.

[Pmalek]

They have a good rating here, https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.bitpanda.com

Most of the new comments are positive. There are still some negative ones, but that’s pretty normal for casinos, they always have haters.

What I noticed from the feedback is that a lot of users are happy with the way Betpanda works. No KYC required, just make an account and gamble. It’s very simple with Betpanda.

There are a few problems and mistakes with your post. Bitpanda is a crypto exchange. I think it's Austrian, but they are licensed all over the EU. Many Germans prefer to trade on this exchange.
I was interested in creating an account at Bitpanda a while back on the advice of a colleague from Austria, but I changed my mind due to its mandatory KYC requirement. If they required identity verification back then, I am sure that's still the case today. When it comes to KYC, it's only going to become more and more strict and not the other way around, especially in the EU.