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[hosemary]

Couldn't the casino analyze my strategy and pick a server seed to make me lose?

Generally speaking, that's theoretically possible. To do so, the casino would need to know what wager you are going to make and that also requires a lot of computing power on the backend of the website. I seriously doubt betpanda (or any other reputable online casino) do that.
If you think your wagers are predictable for the casino, you don't trust the them and you want to make sure that they can't cheat you, you have to change the client seed every time you wager.

[Mandoy]

Couldn't the casino analyze my strategy and pick a server seed to make me lose?

Generally speaking, that's theoretically possible. To do so, the casino would need to know what wager you are going to make and that also requires a lot of computing power on the backend of the website. I seriously doubt betpanda (or any other reputable online casino) do that.
If you think your wagers are predictable for the casino, you don't trust the them and you want to make sure that they can't cheat you, you have to change the client seed every time you wager.

You are right that theoretically a casino might attempt to control results in case they were aware of your precise bets ahead of time, but practically, well-known crypto casinos such as Betpanda.io would practically never attempt it. It would involve huge computation. To be on the safer side, it is best to seed your client a new seed each time you place a bet. This makes your bets uncertain and makes the proven fair system as intended meaning that you will be assured that the results are not biased or hidden.

[doggywin]

Was I supposed to save hash after every single dice bet? After every single roll? Are they for real? Is it made inconvenient intentionally?

What is the point of having a nonce in dice provably fair if it is always 0?

Did I lose my money fairly?

Unfortunately, yes. If you want to verify the fairness of the bets, you need to save the hash of the server seed, the client seed and the nonce for every bet.
If the server seed changes with every bet, this means that with every new bet you are starting a new session, so it makes perfect sense that the nonce resets to zero. This is how the nonce is supposed to work. I’m not sure what you are trying to complain about here because everything seems to be working as it’s supposed to.

This is how nonce is supposed to work? Have you played dice anywhere or are you spamming your signature?

In every casino that has nonce, the rolls are generated like this:
server seed, client seed, nonce: 0
same server seed, client seed, nonce: 1
same server seed, client seed, nonce: 2
same server seed, client seed, nonce: 3

Players save the server seed once and verify any number of rolls together. This is legit provably fair. Both players and casino can't control the outcome.

Betpanda generates rolls like this, by default:
server seed, client seed, nonce: 0
server seed they like knowing both client seed, nonce and players previous bets, client seed, nonce: 0
server seed they like knowing both client seed, nonce and players previous bets, client seed, nonce: 0
server seed they like knowing both client seed, nonce and players previous bets, client seed, nonce: 0

BetPanda is using nonce suspiciously. They don't want players to verify every bet? What the heck is this?

What happened to this forum? There used to be a time when this kind of provably fair gets called out.

It is very easy to rig the rolls, and yet impossible to prove rigging.

[hosemary]

BetPanda is using nonce suspiciously. They don't want players to verify every bet? What the heck is this?

In betpanda's dice, you can verify all your bets. The server seed stays the same until you rotate it and it's only the nonce that changes every time you wager.
I just made a wager in betpanda and as you can see in the following image, the nonce wasn't zero.

[impulse709]

Couldn't the casino analyze my strategy and pick a server seed to make me lose?

Generally speaking, that's theoretically possible. To do so, the casino would need to know what wager you are going to make and that also requires a lot of computing power on the backend of the website. I seriously doubt betpanda (or any other reputable online casino) do that.
If you think your wagers are predictable for the casino, you don't trust the them and you want to make sure that they can't cheat you, you have to change the client seed every time you wager.

With a provably fair system, the casino hashes the seed of the server and then publishes it, and thus can no longer alter the result once they know about your bet. They would have forfeited the authentication of using another seed and this would have spoiled their reputation had they attempted to tamper with the results by choosing another seed. In the case of a platform such as Betpanda, durability is much more important than focusing on the strategy of a selected player.
Nonetheless, there are easy precautions that should be observed among players. This may be enhanced by changing your client seed every now and then and by checking results, which can make the playing process more confident and transparent.

[doggywin]

BetPanda is using nonce suspiciously. They don't want players to verify every bet? What the heck is this?

In betpanda's dice, you can verify all your bets. The server seed stays the same until you rotate it and it's only the nonce that changes every time you wager.
I just made a wager in betpanda and as you can see in the following image, the nonce wasn't zero.

In my account, the server seed changed without rotating.

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[wakier]

Am I the only one experiencing this issue?

I really enjoy betting while watching matches, but this is the first time I've encountered this issue on betpanda.

I've refreshed the page several times, but the result is the same, and I've also checked my network connection and it's fine.

[mirakal]

Am I the only one experiencing this issue?

I really enjoy betting while watching matches, but this is the first time I've encountered this issue on betpanda.

I've refreshed the page several times, but the result is the same, and I've also checked my network connection and it's fine.

Sometimes it really happens like that, it usually depends on which server you’re connected to. Since it’s just the first time, I don’t think it’s a big deal, these kinds of issues can happen anytime. Betpanda is basically just feeding live streams anyway.

Personally, I don’t really use them for watching live games, so I can’t fully relate. That’s just my opinion from the outside.

[slaman29]

I can frequently participate on this contest if this is just a bet builder style which only a single sports required. I already failed multiple time just to get a qualifying parlay bet.

Those who qualified already has good knowledge on various sports.

No man, it's luck. Trust me You can fail on 1.1x football single easy peasy.

Well actually you cant miss this out again if you just click the "watch" on the thread of the Games & Rounds, you will receive a notification with the Bitcointalk Supernotifier or else join on the channel of ContestHunters to keep updated on the games held by LM management and memehunter.

I know I just keep my notifies to very minimum now and even I don't join TG much anymore. I recently signed back up to do work but now removed it again. Long story about me and social media lol

[GokuSan]

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[nemesis_incarnate]

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Glad you liked it. What you liked the most?

[Mahdirakib]

In betpanda's dice, you can verify all your bets. The server seed stays the same until you rotate it and it's only the nonce that changes every time you wager.
I just made a wager in betpanda and as you can see in the following image, the nonce wasn't zero. ~snip~

Well, that's interesting. I'm wondering why the system isn't working normally for all the users. The server seed is automatically rotating after every bet for me. As a result, the nonce is always staying 0 there. Beside 'doggywin', another user had complained about the same thing a few days ago. The result is still verifiable, but the whole thing is questionable.

[notblox1]

Experienced this 💯.

Back then when they came it was almost instant, then 2days ago I tried this & my withdraw was stuck for about 6 hours and when I tried to enquire from support was told it can take 24hours and that's how I canceled my withdraw and lost my balance **delay to deplete ** but tried again on Valentine's day after a small win but this time it was near instant, just hope this will be the experience everyone will be having because the competition out there doesn't take forever to process withdraws, and it's these small things that keep players loyal to a platform.

Thank you for replying and explaining what happened in your case.
I eventually received my withdrawal but I didnt receive any notification or explanation why it was delayed for so long.
Casinos I use daily should have quick withdrawal because I am moving coins all the time, or I need to quickly them to someone.
This is constructive criticism and I hope Betpanda will improve this soon.

[Woodie]

~snip~

Thank you for replying and explaining what happened in your case.
I eventually received my withdrawal but I didnt receive any notification or explanation why it was delayed for so long.
Casinos I use daily should have quick withdrawal because I am moving coins all the time, or I need to quickly them to someone.
This is constructive criticism and I hope Betpanda will improve this soon.

Someone did respond with the likely reason for the delayed coins, lack of activity on this casino might have triggered an internal check but after my account was whitelisted again.. coins started to flow out faster which is great  

Just hope this isn't the reason why contest prizes aren't being delayed , and hope am not the only one that is yet to receive them

[dimonstration]

It’s Friday which means another Friday loot drop!

It’s a good day to start your weekends gambling by having free spin when you wager in Betpanda casino. AFAIK distribution of free spin is Friday 17:00 UTC so few hours left to make at least wager and be eligible.

Good luck and have fun!

[mitchr4]

It’s Friday which means another Friday loot drop!

It’s a good day to start your weekends gambling by having free spin when you wager in Betpanda casino. AFAIK distribution of free spin is Friday 17:00 UTC so few hours left to make at least wager and be eligible.

Good luck and have fun!

Speaking of drops, I just tried the Crossing game on Easy risk level earlier and somehow managed to reach the end of the road for the max win after a few attempts. Too bad I was only betting small, but it was a fun anyway. Good luck to everyone on the Friday free spin drop!

[dimonstration]

It’s Friday which means another Friday loot drop!

It’s a good day to start your weekends gambling by having free spin when you wager in Betpanda casino. AFAIK distribution of free spin is Friday 17:00 UTC so few hours left to make at least wager and be eligible.

Good luck and have fun!

Speaking of drops, I just tried the Crossing game on Easy risk level earlier and somehow managed to reach the end of the road for the max win after a few attempts. Too bad I was only betting small, but it was a fun anyway. Good luck to everyone on the Friday free spin drop!

Niiice. I have zero luck playing that game. Tried it couple of times even on easy mode but never reach that end of the road to make my chicken survive. Haha

Anyway, Betpanda offers extra 5% cashback on some selected games including live games which is very good if you are an Evolution gaming player like me.

I lose my balance tonight so I’m expecting my cash to be on extra rewards to ease my loss.