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October 11, 2017, 04:56:33 PM
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How about cryptopia or nova both of those work well.


Cryptopia it's look like 25 000$

what? thats a lot. Anyone have the username on here of cryptopia owner?

Cryptopia delisted boolberry 9/15/2017, they had the wallet in maintenance mode for months (no direct deposit or withdrawls of bbr).  Found this article recently too: https://thecryptopapers.com/2017/09/01/poloniex-v-cryptopia/

The following was Cryptopia's response to my ticket (it was still listed as xbb on bittrex):

Sender: Jawa  8/15/2017

Thanks for your reply.

Our investigation has shown that Boolberry currently has no working block explorer, it's not listed on any other exchanges, and no longer has an active dev team, but someone does appear to be mining it.

If you were able to sync up a wallet to the same node that Cryptopia is syncing to, and get to the same block height, then there is a chance that you’d be able to withdraw your coins. If you have trouble syncing, we might be able to find this node for you.

All I can really recommend in this situation is to sync up the wallet and give the withdrawal another try. We aren't delisting Boolberry for another 30 days.

I apologise any inconvenience that this may cause, and appreciate your understanding with this scenario. I'll leave this ticket open in case you had any further questions.

Kind regards,

Cryptopia Support


Cryptopia's investigation wasn't that thorough. We've had explorer.mining.blue/en/ up since July.

I have my block explorer up and running at http://explorer.mining.blue. It's still in development so don't trust it to be giving accurate info, but I figure it's something at least for now. Please help by letting me know of anything that seems off so I can fix it. It's based on code written for Karbowanec and I've attempted to make equivalent rpc calls in boolberry to get it working here, but unsure about how I've translated some of that.

If they are having issues with a project they should of reached out to the community here. It's as simple as making a post, "Hey we're having an issue with [blank]. Can you resolve the issue? If not, we're going to delist the project."

Communication between vendors (coin projects) and businesses (exchanges) is a basic fundamental of any business ecosystem. They want $25,000 to relist BBR? Is that fee going towards the CEO's business school tuition?
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October 11, 2017, 07:29:05 PM
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Exchange Update:

Cryptozoidberg has reviewed the code and merged the PR into the main repo (https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/8ecc5fcbcb9f12b4484e842c093172c81541c10b). Clintar is building an arbitration tool for the code then Boolberry should be up and running on bisq.io in no time.

Vadym, the CEO from https://stocks.exchange/ is adding a BBR pair. We'll update everyone as soon as it's online. Stocks.exchange is a relatively new exchange, so take that into consideration.


Clintar has finished work on the arbitration tool (https://keycheck.mining.blue). We're just waiting for bisq.io integration and Boolberry trading can resume. If anyone wants to follow progress here is the link: https://forum.bisq.io/t/request-boolberry-bbr/651

In the meantime you will need to compile the latest source from https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry for the new functionality to work. If you use an old version of the wallet it wont generate the viewkey.
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October 11, 2017, 09:24:44 PM
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Exchange Update:

Cryptozoidberg has reviewed the code and merged the PR into the main repo (https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/8ecc5fcbcb9f12b4484e842c093172c81541c10b). Clintar is building an arbitration tool for the code then Boolberry should be up and running on bisq.io in no time.

Vadym, the CEO from https://stocks.exchange/ is adding a BBR pair. We'll update everyone as soon as it's online. Stocks.exchange is a relatively new exchange, so take that into consideration.


Clintar has finished work on the arbitration tool (https://keycheck.mining.blue). We're just waiting for bisq.io integration and Boolberry trading can resume. If anyone wants to follow progress here is the link: https://forum.bisq.io/t/request-boolberry-bbr/651

In the meantime you will need to compile the latest source from https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry for the new functionality to work. If you use an old version of the wallet it wont generate the viewkey.

All sounds quite promising Smiley

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October 11, 2017, 11:20:45 PM
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Is there still a way to buy some BBR somewhere?
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October 11, 2017, 11:21:23 PM
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Great to see the collaborative effort

Hoping in the future to help support some of the paid relistings, or purchase more Boolberry over the counter

                                     
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October 11, 2017, 11:22:01 PM
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Exchange Update:

Cryptozoidberg has reviewed the code and merged the PR into the main repo (https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/8ecc5fcbcb9f12b4484e842c093172c81541c10b). Clintar is building an arbitration tool for the code then Boolberry should be up and running on bisq.io in no time.

Vadym, the CEO from https://stocks.exchange/ is adding a BBR pair. We'll update everyone as soon as it's online. Stocks.exchange is a relatively new exchange, so take that into consideration.


Who is the developer? I checked out their github repo and they could really help propel this project!

                                     
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October 12, 2017, 07:02:43 AM
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Hi, I've got a windows binary compiled that has the transaction key checking up at https://github.com/clintar/boolberry/releases/tag/v0.3a

To use the functionality, you need to be running a version of the wallet that has support for tx_key checking when making a transaction. Then to get the tx_key so that you can prove you sent it, you run
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./simplewallet get_tx_key [transaction_hash]
which will give you a transaction key.
You can use the https://keycheck.mining.blue site to check or run from any wallet that supports the functionality. And run
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./simplewallet check_tx_key [transaction_hash] [transaction_key] [recipient_address]
where the recipient address is the address you sent to. There is not any way to do this from gui yet. I'll be providing other binaries at that link, too.
  check_tx_key            Check amount going to <address> in <txid>
  get_tx_key              Get transaction key (r) for a given <txid>
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Hi, I've got a windows binary compiled that has the transaction key checking up at https://github.com/clintar/boolberry/releases/tag/v0.3a

To use the functionality, you need to be running a version of the wallet that has support for tx_key checking when making a transaction. Then to get the tx_key so that you can prove you sent it, you run
Code:
./simplewallet get_tx_key [transaction_hash]
which will give you a transaction key.
You can use the https://keycheck.mining.blue site to check or run from any wallet that supports the functionality. And run
Code:
./simplewallet check_tx_key [transaction_hash] [transaction_key] [recipient_address]
where the recipient address is the address you sent to. There is not any way to do this from gui yet. I'll be providing other binaries at that link, too.
  check_tx_key            Check amount going to <address> in <txid>
  get_tx_key              Get transaction key (r) for a given <txid>

Thanks alot clintar, glad to see this project is still alive and well!  I'm gonna keep a close eye to it!  See you on slack!
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October 12, 2017, 09:29:22 PM
Last edit: October 12, 2017, 09:41:42 PM by b4h4mu7
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Development Update:

Some are wondering why the Boolberry codebase hasn't had much improvements over the last 5 months. It's because we've been working on a separate codebase. In the spirit of transparency, I want to reiterate the development plans for this project in case anyone overlooked my commitment to this project. Back in June, I informed everyone I would be building a team to take this project to the next level and over the last 5 months we've been getting closer to that goal.

Development Progress Update:

As some of you may know, I donated 20,000 Boolberry to zoidberg for development during the last major growth cycle but the donations didn't end up going towards development. After 6 months of waiting and some research I've decided to take a more hands-on approach to reviving this project in a direction that will benefit everyone in the shortest period of time.

I've managed to secure a senior level C++ developer to contribute to the project full-time. Our first major milestone will be merging the Bytecoin codebase with Boolberry's to bring it up to date with the advancements made over the years. In my view, the combination of Boolberry's unique features like its hashing algorithm, blockchain bloat reduction and privacy improvements along with Bytecoin 2.0's vast array of performance, usability and stability improvements will position Boolberry as the most advanced and efficient Cyptonote project.

In addition to the code merge, Clintar2 is working on his LMDB integration which is now in a working state. His LMDB work will eventually replace our RocksDB implementation when the update goes live.

I've had cordial exchanges with both crypto_zoidberg and clintar2; neither of whom have shown any reserves about this proposal. I'm funding this project by myself so I would appreciate any donations from the community as everyone here will be benefitting from the overall growth of the project.

Donations: 1FB1xJe7suSN6QW1x2Yt2X5YPGpRNDzeyLMdDyDEg8tictHPYEaRSXFUqjwU85wUt41pDPnJdeGYy9t 8e3MzqRn29tTo33E

Development:

As stated in June, our plan was to work off the Bytecoin 2.0 codebase and from there bring in the unique BBR properties. We chose Bytecoin because it's closest thing to vanilla Cryptonote and despite its shady history it has a lot of features that aren't present in other CN projects. It also gives us room to make improvements without many moving parts.

That said, what initially began as a fix for the DB issue, soon spiraled into a full blown R&D project. Our team identified multiple areas across the protocol that needed improvements and have been working towards that goal. It's safe to say, we are on the very bleeding edge of this technology and it will be the biggest release for any CN project since 2014; reestablishing this project as the benchmark CN project for the foreseeable future.



Funding:

Over the last 5 months, I've funded this project without any support from investors. I've mostly compensated contributors in BBR(XBB) but also BTC as needed (due to the lack of liquidity from exchange delisting). I've only received a small amount of donations totaling around 300BBR and .1BTC. That said, the team has grown to 10 developers, 5 cryptographers, 2 graphics designers and other contributors working on the project in a private repository. Cryptozoidberg has been working with us in an advisory position due to his current development obligations. As his schedule permits he will eventually be able to join our efforts full time. Despite some of your feelings towards Cryptozoidberg, he is a great asset to this project and his knowledge of CN is deeper than anyone else on this forum. In that sense he is the Satoshi of CN.

Coinswap

The delisting from the exchanges came at an unfortunate time. I tried getting the project re-listed on other exchanges, even willing to spend my own coin to achieve this but at the end of the day they (Hitbtc) only wasted our time by trying to extort 12 more BTC for a listing.. This turned out to be a blessing in disguise, as some users there are reporting multiple issues like funds stolen despite 2FA and other withdrawal issues.

The idea of a coinswap arose a few months ago as both a solution to adopting the new codebase and a way to establish a project development fund. The exchange situation made the idea of a coinswap more appealing given the amount of work involved with a hardfork. This means less funds are on centralized exchanges making a coinswap easier to facilitate. While details still need to be ironed out, it will most likely involve some portion of the swap going into a development fund managed by the dev team to make sure there is continued sustainability on that front given the size and scope of the project. While I would love to fund this project until the end of time, it's only fair to spread this burden across the entire community.

Short Term roadmap:

In the future, we will be revealing more details about the coinswap, the project and the new team. We'll also be releasing multiple white papers justifying the changes we've made to various aspects of the protocol. We still have a lot of testing and profiling to do before we can move towards a release. In the meantime, if you have funds on Bittrex or Poloniex please do your best to withdraw them if you plan participating in the coinswap. Bisq.io is in the process of adding a pairing so for those that want to trade support them by donating and using their platform. For now, all we can say is stay tuned for future announcements regarding the project.
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Development Update:

Some are wondering why the Boolberry codebase hasn't had much improvements over the last 5 months. It's because we've been working on a separate codebase. In the spirit of transparency, I want to reiterate the development plans for this project in case anyone overlooked my commitment to this project. Back in June, I informed everyone I would be building a team to take this project to the next level and over the last 5 months we've been getting closer to that goal.

Development Progress Update:

As some of you may know, I donated 20,000 Boolberry to zoidberg for development during the last major growth cycle but the donations didn't end up going towards development. After 6 months of waiting and some research I've decided to take a more hands-on approach to reviving this project in a direction that will benefit everyone in the shortest period of time.

I've managed to secure a senior level C++ developer to contribute to the project full-time. Our first major milestone will be merging the Bytecoin codebase with Boolberry's to bring it up to date with the advancements made over the years. In my view, the combination of Boolberry's unique features like its hashing algorithm, blockchain bloat reduction and privacy improvements along with Bytecoin 2.0's vast array of performance, usability and stability improvements will position Boolberry as the most advanced and efficient Cyptonote project.

In addition to the code merge, Clintar2 is working on his LMDB integration which is now in a working state. His LMDB work will eventually replace our RocksDB implementation when the update goes live.

I've had cordial exchanges with both crypto_zoidberg and clintar2; neither of whom have shown any reserves about this proposal. I'm funding this project by myself so I would appreciate any donations from the community as everyone here will be benefitting from the overall growth of the project.

Donations: 1FB1xJe7suSN6QW1x2Yt2X5YPGpRNDzeyLMdDyDEg8tictHPYEaRSXFUqjwU85wUt41pDPnJdeGYy9t 8e3MzqRn29tTo33E

Development:

As stated in June, our plan was to work off the Bytecoin 2.0 codebase and from there bring in the unique BBR properties. We chose Bytecoin because it's closest thing to vanilla Cryptonote and despite its shady history it has a lot of features that aren't present in other CN projects. It also gives us room to make improvements without many moving parts.

That said, what initially began as a fix for the DB issue, soon spiraled into a full blown R&D project. Our team identified multiple areas across the protocol that needed improvements and have been working towards that goal. It's safe to say, we are on the very bleeding edge of this technology and it will be the biggest release for any CN project since 2014; reestablishing this project as the benchmark CN project for the foreseeable future.



Funding:

Over the last 5 months, I've funded this project without any support from investors. I've mostly compensated contributors in BBR(XBB) but also BTC as needed (due to the lack of liquidity from exchange delisting). I've only received a small amount of donations totaling around 300BBR and .1BTC. That said, the team has grown to 10 developers, 5 cryptographers, 2 graphics designers and other contributors working on the project in a private repository. Cryptozoidberg has been working with us in an advisory position due to his current development obligations. As his schedule permits he will eventually be able to join our efforts full time. Despite some of your feelings towards Cryptozoidberg, he is a great asset to this project and his knowledge of CN is deeper than anyone else on this forum. In that sense he is the Satoshi of CN.

Coinswap

The delisting from the exchanges came at an unfortunate time. I tried getting the project re-listed on other exchanges, even willing to spend my own coin to achieve this but at the end of the day they (Hitbtc) only wasted our time by trying to extort 12 more BTC for a listing.. This turned out to be a blessing in disguise, as some users there are reporting multiple issues like funds stolen despite 2FA and other withdrawal issues.

The idea of a coinswap arose a few months ago as both a solution to adopting the new codebase and a way to establish a project development fund. The exchange situation made the idea of a coinswap more appealing given the amount of work involved with a hardfork. This means less funds are on centralized exchanges making a coinswap easier to facilitate. While details still need to be ironed out, it will most likely involve some portion of the swap going into a development fund managed by the dev team to make sure there is continued sustainability on that front given the size and scope of the project. While I would love to fund this project until the end of time, it's only fair to spread this burden across the entire community.

Short Term roadmap:

In the future, we will be revealing more details about the coinswap, the project and the new team. We'll also be releasing multiple white papers justifying the changes we've made to various aspects of the protocol. We still have a lot of testing and profiling to do before we can move towards a release. In the meantime, if you have funds on Bittrex or Poloniex please do your best to withdraw them if you plan participating in the coinswap. Bisq.io is in the process of adding a pairing so for those that want to trade support them by donating and using their platform. For now, all we can say is stay tuned for future announcements regarding the project.


I'll say it in simple words, this is one of the best thing i've seen in crypto since awhile!   Pure genius!  Now you got my attention for sure!
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Very curious about the coinswap, I can agree that a hardfork can be difficult to pull off properly

How would you do a transparent coinswap of a cryptonote coin? I don't think you can do this purely on-chain, may need a google form or API to keep track of recipients and their payments.

Talking this through I guess you could use the payment ID field and publish the viewkey so people could match up transactions

                                     
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Last edit: October 13, 2017, 08:12:36 PM by 1blockologist
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That brings me to another thing:

clintar2 and occasionally another dev is adding improvements to Boolberry's code base. Whether it is accessibility functions for being added to exchanges or the LMDB improvements

while b4h4mu7 is working with a parallel set of developers on a private repository that forks off of bytecoin, with the possibility of a coinswap to make this compatible, instead of merging the code base with Boolberry's existing code

am I understanding this correctly? These are two parallel things?

Bytecoin uses RocksDB IIRC, while Monero went with the LMDB direction. Since these can be stark differences, amongst others, is there intended to be any cross drift in the commits being done between repositories?

                                     
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Last edit: October 13, 2017, 09:21:33 PM by b4h4mu7
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That brings me to another thing:

clintar2 and occasionally another dev is adding improvements to Boolberry's code base. Whether it is accessibility functions for being added to exchanges or the LMDB improvements

while b4h4mu7 is working with a parallel set of developers on a private repository that forks off of bytecoin, with the possibility of a coinswap to make this compatible, instead of merging the code base with Boolberry's existing code

[1]am I understanding this correctly? These are two parallel things?

Bytecoin uses RocksDB IIRC, while Monero went with the LMDB direction.[2] Since these can be stark differences, amongst others, is there intended to be any cross drift in the commits being done between repositories?

[1]Somewhat.

Clintar is no longer working on his LMDB code. At this point it doesn't make any sense to commit resources to the old codebase given the amount of work we're putting into the new one. The other developer you're speaking of, face, only took a break from the new codebase to make necessary API requirements so trading could resume for Boolberry. In hindsight, part of that effort turned out to be a waste of dev time since Hitbtc attempted to extort us for more funds. On the bright side Bisq.io will be adding BBR soon as a result of more recent improvements.

Since the developers are being paid in BBR it makes sense they have access to liquidity if they need to pay bills. I've been supplying them with BTC as they need it to manage the situation.

Regarding LMDB and RocksDB: We're doing extensive profiling between the two concepts and at the moment RocksDB is outperforming LMDB. We're still making optimizations to see if LMDB is worth making the switch. There are also other potential candidates for future profiling, most notably NuDB used by Ripple and SimDB. Ironically, Ripple was using RocksDB until they ran into scaling issues that made them create NuDB. The drawback is that its SSD only so users without SSD would need to revert back to RocksDB as is the case with Ripple or LMDB if that optimization proves otherwise.

https://github.com/vinniefalco/NuDB
https://github.com/LiveAsynchronousVisualizedArchitecture/simdb

[2] Cryptonote 2.0 codebase has been completely refactored from the original Bytecoin 1.0 (AEON, BBR, XMR, etc). So bringing in commits cross stream is no trivial task since essentially they are two separate projects. It's doable, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Does BBR have a lite wallet, or web wallet yet?

Can the client be connected to a remote node like XMR?
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That brings me to another thing:

clintar2 and occasionally another dev is adding improvements to Boolberry's code base. Whether it is accessibility functions for being added to exchanges or the LMDB improvements

while b4h4mu7 is working with a parallel set of developers on a private repository that forks off of bytecoin, with the possibility of a coinswap to make this compatible, instead of merging the code base with Boolberry's existing code

[1]am I understanding this correctly? These are two parallel things?

Bytecoin uses RocksDB IIRC, while Monero went with the LMDB direction.[2] Since these can be stark differences, amongst others, is there intended to be any cross drift in the commits being done between repositories?

[1]Somewhat.

Clintar is no longer working on his LMDB code. At this point it doesn't make any sense to commit resources to the old codebase given the amount of work we're putting into the new one. The other developer you're speaking of, face, only took a break from the new codebase to make necessary API requirements so trading could resume for Boolberry. In hindsight, part of that effort turned out to be a waste of dev time since Hitbtc attempted to extort us for more funds. On the bright side Bisq.io will be adding BBR soon as a result of more recent improvements.

Since the developers are being paid in BBR it makes sense they have access to liquidity if they need to pay bills. I've been supplying them with BTC as they need it to manage the situation.

Regarding LMDB and RocksDB: We're doing extensive profiling between the two concepts and at the moment RocksDB is outperforming LMDB. We're still making optimizations to see if LMDB is worth making the switch. There are also other potential candidates for future profiling, most notably NuDB used by Ripple and SimDB. Ironically, Ripple was using RocksDB until they ran into scaling issues that made them create NuDB. The drawback is that its SSD only so users without SSD would need to revert back to RocksDB as is the case with Ripple or LMDB if that optimization proves otherwise.

https://github.com/vinniefalco/NuDB
https://github.com/LiveAsynchronousVisualizedArchitecture/simdb

[2] Cryptonote 2.0 codebase has been completely refactored from the original Bytecoin 1.0 (AEON, BBR, XMR, etc). So bringing in commits cross stream is no trivial task since essentially they are two separate projects. It's doable, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.

So, what do you want to do?

All of the aliased addresses on Boolberry's chain will be gone, do you want to import that feature? It has kind of half baked tying an alias to a block.

Do you want to import the dev tax?

The peculiarities around Boolberry's scaling "solution"?

or just relaunch a new cryptonote fork and do the swap, and start developing more from there

There are still bunches of things a cryptonote coin can do that others are not doing, to make it stand out

                                     
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October 14, 2017, 01:11:43 AM
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Development Update:

Some are wondering why the Boolberry codebase hasn't had much improvements over the last 5 months. It's because we've been working on a separate codebase. In the spirit of transparency, I want to reiterate the development plans for this project in case anyone overlooked my commitment to this project. Back in June, I informed everyone I would be building a team to take this project to the next level and over the last 5 months we've been getting closer to that goal.

Development Progress Update:

As some of you may know, I donated 20,000 Boolberry to zoidberg for development during the last major growth cycle but the donations didn't end up going towards development. After 6 months of waiting and some research I've decided to take a more hands-on approach to reviving this project in a direction that will benefit everyone in the shortest period of time.

I've managed to secure a senior level C++ developer to contribute to the project full-time. Our first major milestone will be merging the Bytecoin codebase with Boolberry's to bring it up to date with the advancements made over the years. In my view, the combination of Boolberry's unique features like its hashing algorithm, blockchain bloat reduction and privacy improvements along with Bytecoin 2.0's vast array of performance, usability and stability improvements will position Boolberry as the most advanced and efficient Cyptonote project.

In addition to the code merge, Clintar2 is working on his LMDB integration which is now in a working state. His LMDB work will eventually replace our RocksDB implementation when the update goes live.

I've had cordial exchanges with both crypto_zoidberg and clintar2; neither of whom have shown any reserves about this proposal. I'm funding this project by myself so I would appreciate any donations from the community as everyone here will be benefitting from the overall growth of the project.

Donations: 1FB1xJe7suSN6QW1x2Yt2X5YPGpRNDzeyLMdDyDEg8tictHPYEaRSXFUqjwU85wUt41pDPnJdeGYy9t 8e3MzqRn29tTo33E

Development:

As stated in June, our plan was to work off the Bytecoin 2.0 codebase and from there bring in the unique BBR properties. We chose Bytecoin because it's closest thing to vanilla Cryptonote and despite its shady history it has a lot of features that aren't present in other CN projects. It also gives us room to make improvements without many moving parts.

That said, what initially began as a fix for the DB issue, soon spiraled into a full blown R&D project. Our team identified multiple areas across the protocol that needed improvements and have been working towards that goal. It's safe to say, we are on the very bleeding edge of this technology and it will be the biggest release for any CN project since 2014; reestablishing this project as the benchmark CN project for the foreseeable future.



Funding:

Over the last 5 months, I've funded this project without any support from investors. I've mostly compensated contributors in BBR(XBB) but also BTC as needed (due to the lack of liquidity from exchange delisting). I've only received a small amount of donations totaling around 300BBR and .1BTC. That said, the team has grown to 10 developers, 5 cryptographers, 2 graphics designers and other contributors working on the project in a private repository. Cryptozoidberg has been working with us in an advisory position due to his current development obligations. As his schedule permits he will eventually be able to join our efforts full time. Despite some of your feelings towards Cryptozoidberg, he is a great asset to this project and his knowledge of CN is deeper than anyone else on this forum. In that sense he is the Satoshi of CN.

Coinswap

The delisting from the exchanges came at an unfortunate time. I tried getting the project re-listed on other exchanges, even willing to spend my own coin to achieve this but at the end of the day they (Hitbtc) only wasted our time by trying to extort 12 more BTC for a listing.. This turned out to be a blessing in disguise, as some users there are reporting multiple issues like funds stolen despite 2FA and other withdrawal issues.

The idea of a coinswap arose a few months ago as both a solution to adopting the new codebase and a way to establish a project development fund. The exchange situation made the idea of a coinswap more appealing given the amount of work involved with a hardfork. This means less funds are on centralized exchanges making a coinswap easier to facilitate. While details still need to be ironed out, it will most likely involve some portion of the swap going into a development fund managed by the dev team to make sure there is continued sustainability on that front given the size and scope of the project. While I would love to fund this project until the end of time, it's only fair to spread this burden across the entire community.

Short Term roadmap:

In the future, we will be revealing more details about the coinswap, the project and the new team. We'll also be releasing multiple white papers justifying the changes we've made to various aspects of the protocol. We still have a lot of testing and profiling to do before we can move towards a release. In the meantime, if you have funds on Bittrex or Poloniex please do your best to withdraw them if you plan participating in the coinswap. Bisq.io is in the process of adding a pairing so for those that want to trade support them by donating and using their platform. For now, all we can say is stay tuned for future announcements regarding the project.


thanks for keeping bbr going... you and all the guys here that are still pitching in.

I have a few on bittrex (and more locked on poloniex)  is it essential to withdraw to my own wallet to be in on the swap or can I move them to bisq.io and they will be auto swapped on there?

also i never heard of bisq.io before are they safe?

I would have thought nova would have added us for free considering the volume the sole bbr exchange could generate and their exchange isnt too bad at all.




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So, what do you want to do?

All of the aliased addresses on Boolberry's chain will be gone, do you want to import that feature? It has kind of half baked tying an alias to a block.

Do you want to import the dev tax?

The peculiarities around Boolberry's scaling "solution"?

or just relaunch a new cryptonote fork and do the swap, and [1]start developing more from there

There are still bunches of things a cryptonote coin can do that others are not doing, to make it stand out

I've laid out above what we're doing.. A cryptonote 2.0 codebase with all of Boolberry's features)) Make no mistake, the new codebase isn't just another Cryptonote fork. Our improvements are beyond anything happening in this space right now and we will be relaunching the project with these features. So I'm not quite sure what you mean by "start development after the swap" because we're already well on our way. Maybe you can clarify this statement?

W.r.t BBR's aliasing, it's great and we've already imported that system into the codebase, in addition to domain aliasing. The former has benefits since its hardcoded, it doesn't have an attack vector like DNS leak has with domain aliasing. Nonetheless, we've also integrated domain aliasing to please both arguments. The community is small enough right now that if aliases are lost during the swap they should be able to remake them afterwards without conflicts. As stated, we still need to iron out the details w.r.t swap and we might be able to salvage them. We have a dev that is working specifically on the swap details. As the plan matures we'll let everyone know how we are going to proceed along with the pros and cons.

The 1% mining tax has proven to be ineffective in sustaining ongoing development. We should be able to establish enough funds for ongoing development when we proceed with the swap. If the community is open to an ongoing dev tax on top of that then that would be up to everyone here. My main goal moving forward with funding is to make sure this project never gets put into the situation it was in before i.e. lack of development, funding, mismanagement of funds etc.

Boolberry's pruning solution makes sense. We have the team in place to review proposals and provide concrete feedback. If someone can propose a better solution than we'll look into it.

We have a very clear vision of where we are going with this and rockstar team to get us there. I'm 100% confident this project will reestablish its position as the benchmark CN project. As stated, in the future we will do a full project reveal to highlight what we're doing along with respective white papers to support our claims.
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thanks for keeping bbr going... you and all the guys here that are still pitching in.

I have a few on bittrex (and more locked on poloniex)  is it essential to withdraw to my own wallet to be in on the swap or can I move them to bisq.io and they will be auto swapped on there?

also i never heard of bisq.io before are they safe?

I would have thought nova would have added us for free considering the volume the sole bbr exchange could generate and their exchange isnt too bad at all.





Yw and thanks for supporting the project all these years!

Yes, you should definitely move your funds from Bittrex and Poloniex into a local wallet. If they decide to delete your coins by removing the wallet then you'll be hard pressed to find a solution to recover them.

bisq.io is about as safe as its going to get since its a decentralized exchange.

I don't know much about nova's listing policies but the guys from stocks.exchange are adding a BBR pair soon. It should be online within the next few days.
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thanks for keeping bbr going... you and all the guys here that are still pitching in.

I have a few on bittrex (and more locked on poloniex)  is it essential to withdraw to my own wallet to be in on the swap or can I move them to bisq.io and they will be auto swapped on there?

also i never heard of bisq.io before are they safe?

I would have thought nova would have added us for free considering the volume the sole bbr exchange could generate and their exchange isnt too bad at all.





Yw and thanks for supporting the project all these years!

Yes, you should definitely move your funds from Bittrex and Poloniex into a local wallet. If they decide to delete your coins by removing the wallet then you'll be hard pressed to find a solution to recover them.

bisq.io is about as safe as its going to get since its a decentralized exchange.

I don't know much about nova's listing policies but the guys from stocks.exchange are adding a BBR pair soon. It should be online within the next few days.

Thanks for info Smiley

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thanks for keeping bbr going... you and all the guys here that are still pitching in.

I have a few on bittrex (and more locked on poloniex)  is it essential to withdraw to my own wallet to be in on the swap or can I move them to bisq.io and they will be auto swapped on there?

also i never heard of bisq.io before are they safe?

I would have thought nova would have added us for free considering the volume the sole bbr exchange could generate and their exchange isnt too bad at all.





Yw and thanks for supporting the project all these years!

Yes, you should definitely move your funds from Bittrex and Poloniex into a local wallet. If they decide to delete your coins by removing the wallet then you'll be hard pressed to find a solution to recover them.

bisq.io is about as safe as its going to get since its a decentralized exchange.

I don't know much about nova's listing policies but the guys from stocks.exchange are adding a BBR pair soon. It should be online within the next few days.

Thanks for info Smiley

If you can keep us informed of your progress with Bittrex withdrawal. A few people in the community were on vacation when delisting happened and haven't seen a response from Bittrex (ticket was opened 3 weeks ago) about withdrawing their BBR.
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