1. What problem does Karma solve?
What problem does Bitcoin Solve? What problem does givecoin2 solve?
Bitcoin has claimed the throne as the value exchange token. There are ancillary uses that we're seeing like timestamping services et al.
As for 2Give ? That is a very good and fair question! In its current state Givecoin is just as broken as Karma -- I readily admit that. What it does have going for it is, IMHO, a more reasonable number of tokens -- it has a good marketing history and I think it has the right kind of optics on its utility for charitable giving. We intend to use the coin as the default currency within
https://doabitofgood.com and leverage it to facilitate "underwriting" activity where supporters will buy coins from non-profits and turn around and re-donate them back to other causes, thus bringing about a "virtuous cycle" in charitable giving.
just like bitcoin, your coin is no way near to come close to your goals. all you have is speculations on what route you want to take that coin. you mock east for being dictator yet your short sight a blockchain to be used only to give.
BTW Karma is not BROKEN. This is pure FUD. Its network is moving well and the trades are moving along. I am tired of people using hurtful synonyms carelessly.
Since you have taken the time to be fair to our coin let me share my thoughts on yours. you took over a coin that was designed to "profit" on the good side. it was a new FAD at that time to create a coin to cater to "charitable" network. But old Givecoin was quickly recognized as a try to get rich schemes out of new coin good coins hype. together with clean water coin. Both of them speculated to be created to get the ROI your accusing one of our old member trying to do. Probably both created by keizer ( i can't remember his name, the thisweekscoin's guy) What ever community it tried to build it died along when the "devs" did not do anything beyond making some btcs. Cleanwatercoin did try to make something but it was never taken seriously. once new coins emerged the few "investors" it had ran to the bigger bone.
Every time you keep coming here saying Karma is broken you loose credibility on you understanding the fundamentals of how a coin breaks. It is these comments that make me worry about some one like you wanted to help Karma.
Karma is not dead or broken. Your thinking of how it is being governed that you are judging. And judging how comfortable you are point some obvious facts then it shows that you have not been around here enough to understand what we just been through.
Please stop belittling our coin community. At least our community still cares. Angry or immature as you see them they are still here expressing their thoughts. It is sad to read your Givecoin ANN thread. Watching your posts met with silence from your "also" broken community. [/quote]
And herein lies the rub -- Karma as a coin for miners and investors I BELIEVE is counter to the coins purpose. Karma doesn't want to be hoarded or be rewarded for its exchange. Karma is meant for giving and maybe receiving some benefit for doing good.
If someone is in Karma for financial gain I can hope for nothing more than to see it crash to the point of irrelevance. I'm just being honest here. Not a popular position among the fanboys but I'm not one for telling people what they want to hear.
We haven't discover yet the main focus of Karma. The rewarding those who do good is our main principle. We are being realistic here. It will not be easy to make something of Karma by purely giving coins away. What good will it do to some one if i donate them $50 dollars one time? what good would it be to me to give out 100 million karmas so that person can receive $50. This kind of progress will not help that person and i sure will not be able to afford to help anymore. You need bussness models to create revenues and build infrastructures that karma can be used.
I am not going to sit here and argue with you while this is better. But i can tell you it would be more easier to have 1 million users donate 100 coins then one user donating 100 million coins.
Just like miner and investors, it is fascinating how so many people think they can build a multi-global network of people giving away their coins.
We can't even get people to donate coins to build services for karma now, never mind asking them to support other people.
2. Why should someone be interested in supporting it?
because it has one of the best name out there. The main hook of this coin is the name. because it has some die hard fans. Because it has proven to be still a working coin for months. Because it is a coin focused on good. And good always prevails.
And on this point you and I are in 120% agreement -- however I worry that the ideals of the coin have and are being subverted for antithetical uses and purposes by special interests swayed (neigh, blinded) by their own self-serving interests to monetize on their efforts. [/quoted]
Not sure what your getting at here.
As long as it has a working blockchain the coin is never dead. having this perfect name it is very easy to find sympathy from anyone. tons of people want to see a coin like Karma become something. Everyone believes in its concept.
Because it has people like East who come online every day to work for this coins.
Because it has people who owns million and millions of coin who sit there do nothing all day.... wait no. this is bad!
It CAN die if people stop mining it and if exchanges cease to find profitable value in facilitating it's trade. [/quoted]
if people stopped mining sure. de listed form Exchanges =! death.
4. Does the community really want to be associated with Dice games?
This is a provocative question. We are not a nany state. If some people choose to play dice then its their choice. This doesnt mean its a community decision. Its too early to judge the whole community. its just some people having fun in this dark month. Please don't twist the situation.
It's a very fair question. Of course any currency or asset can be used for questionable purposes. Again however, you will be judged by the company you keep. Bitcoin suffers from MT.GOX and Silk Road. Don't let Karma fall victim to the same taint...
And here's one for you?
Why are you letting eastagle13 co-opt and drive ? Alphi claimed the community didn't want another "messiah" and yet, it sure looks like you're following one
Because East is trying to do something while others sit here and talk. He isn't seen as a leader , he is still the same person that has been for months. trying to move forward.
There's nothing dangerous shown on his side. He is only trying to get people to Trello because it separate people between those who want to help and the the trolls who just come here in BTT.
That's the reason asked you to PM us or come to telegram instead , because if you discuss anything here it will spinned into a circle jerk of dramas. When you didnt. i asked you question publicly. it didnt take long before people attacked you based on your comments.
There is some trolls here and a lot of hurt karmanians. We can not keep a healthy conversation in this thread because it will always trigger some one's nervers. that is why we need some outside services to organize and be able to focus on topics.
But you must clearly see that he has taken a unilateral position of power by controlling the conversation. You can see the other posts where he offers access to that conversation but then demands fidelity in the form of an unverifiable "pay to play" position. Just wholly ridiculous.
-dvd
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again. you are misinformed and have been explained multiple times. trello is not a brain washing service. if you look around on some other respected coins, you can see more and more people are using as a platform to be organized.
East is not being a leader. He is being a true member of the community by continuing progress and move forward. As you can see we can not have serious discussion in this part of the thread because we keep getting interrupted with misinformed people like yourself.
We have been wanting the Karma API for months. When price was well above 300 litoshi. It is not a scheme to reach ROI . It is an effort of some of to achive a positive landmark. We have taken some huge beating and we just want to move forward.
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i tried to promise to my self to not care what people say here but some how you sucked me into spending time posting information that is already easy to find. I decided to give you some insight because you seem like you were genuinely interested. But it seems like you are looking to find content to credit your ill impression of how karma is being governed.
I guess it is part of this cryptoworld. Everyone has the right to accuse someone but not the right to do something to help out.
Dear DVD. Thank you for taking your time to look into karma. but you have now moved from being interested into trying to find something wrong with this coin. once you get your answers to what ever your after you're more then welcome to PM me and we can talk about other topics.
