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September 08, 2014, 05:07:07 PM
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Fundamentally unless you create a "pull based economy" you'll never make this sustainable...

For every "buyer" there is a "seller" -- why on earth are you buying your own coins??

Or worse, supporting someone else who clearly wants to get out of the economy...

If you really wanted this to work you would be getting friends and family involved and giving the coins away instead of hoarding them.

You'd be encouraging businesses to accept them and join marketplaces.

Otherwise, all I'm seeing here is a shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic

Just my .02

-dvd

I know what you mean and I can tell you that I'll be splitting my buy and send some to support some bounties so others can enter the Karma universe Smiley.
Tell me, after your due diligence, did you chose to enter Karma?
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September 08, 2014, 05:12:05 PM
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Dear Karma team (who dont want to be called team).
I have one question, i believe you are all working hard, unlike most of us, to get Karma into a new project, bringing it to Asia.
My only question, for motivational purpose, are you making any good progress the past days? I believe it will motivate some people into taking that last step into helping karma.
Again, if there is any writing of text needed (not programming), should and ill write Wink
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September 08, 2014, 05:17:51 PM
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Small buy wall put up on Minty. Need more coins for my own personal giveaway  Wink

I'll be bringing a few dozen people in soon.
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September 08, 2014, 05:25:21 PM
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Fundamentally unless you create a "pull based economy" you'll never make this sustainable...

For every "buyer" there is a "seller" -- why on earth are you buying your own coins??

Or worse, supporting someone else who clearly wants to get out of the economy...

If you really wanted this to work you would be getting friends and family involved and giving the coins away instead of hoarding them.

You'd be encouraging businesses to accept them and join marketplaces.

Otherwise, all I'm seeing here is a shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic

Just my .02

-dvd

We can all do what we can all do, and hopefully we move forward...is a lot better than waiting for something to happen. Some of us will be focusing our effort on what you said and some can do buy support Wink

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September 08, 2014, 06:07:22 PM
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Allow me to pose a question to the community, if I may.

As we discussed, we will focus on bringing Karma to unbanked populations in the Philippines
per http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,565.0.html

(Indonesia is also a prime target, as another member has pointed out.)

Please reply to this post with how do you think you can help make this happen. We don't want to be in a situation where the many are depending on the very few to make things happen. This surely can be a community effort. I don't mean the involvement of everyone in the community but I'm shooting for 2-5% actively working on something (assuming 300 members of the Karma community, including lurkers)

Being part of the Karma team does not presume activity, either. As most of the time we, the team, does what the community does (just talk without action). We need action now, not just pages and pages of text.

(This is the cold, hard reality. There is no beating around the bush.)

Anyone can come up with a plan. Hopefully, we can discover the plan together. My concern now (from my experiences with Karma) is "who will do the work to make it happen?"

I don't want to present a plan and be one of 2 people doing actual work to make it happen. We have only to take a look at the vast quantity of un-touched tasks on the Karmashares forum (even those that are assigned to specific people) to see a little of what I am talking about. Of course, after I began to see that people didn't want to be assigned responsibilities (or let others know what they're working on), I stopped creating tasks.

Lots of us talk about what needs to be done, but about 90% of the time Karma calls for help are met with radio silence.

"Somebody else did something, now let's talk about it" = 100
"Something needs to be done" = 50
"Here's what we can do" = 25
"Yes, I can help" = 12
"I will do this particular task and here's how I will do it" = 6
"Here is what I have done" = 2 or 3, including myself

Lack of active involvement is the fundamental issue here. We need less talk (especially about market movements and price) and more action (equates to value, especially long term price increases).

Why would anyone want to be the only person doing the work, while others wish to sit around and reap the benefits of their labour?

Would anyone else like to respond?

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September 08, 2014, 06:27:00 PM
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Allow me to pose a question to the community, if I may.

As we discussed, we will focus on bringing Karma to unbanked populations in the Philippines
per http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,565.0.html

(Indonesia is also a prime target, as another member has pointed out.)

Please reply to this post with how do you think you can help make this happen. We don't want to be in a situation where the many are depending on the very few to make things happen. This surely can be a community effort. I don't mean the involvement of everyone in the community but I'm shooting for 2-5% actively working on something (assuming 300 members of the Karma community, including lurkers)

Being part of the Karma team does not presume activity, either. As most of the time we, the team, does what the community does (just talk without action). We need action now, not just pages and pages of text.

(This is the cold, hard reality. There is no beating around the bush.)

Anyone can come up with a plan. Hopefully, we can discover the plan together. My concern now (from my experiences with Karma) is "who will do the work to make it happen?"

I don't want to present a plan and be one of 2 people doing actual work to make it happen. We have only to take a look at the vast quantity of un-touched tasks on the Karmashares forum (even those that are assigned to specific people) to see a little of what I am talking about. Of course, after I began to see that people didn't want to be assigned responsibilities (or let others know what they're working on), I stopped creating tasks.

Lots of us talk about what needs to be done, but about 90% of the time Karma calls for help are met with radio silence.

"Somebody else did something, now let's talk about it" = 100
"Something needs to be done" = 50
"Here's what we can do" = 25
"Yes, I can help" = 12
"I will do this particular task and here's how I will do it" = 6
"Here is what I have done" = 2 or 3, including myself

Lack of active involvement is the fundamental issue here. We need less talk (especially about market movements and price) and more action (equates to value, especially long term price increases).

Why would anyone want to be the only person doing the work, while others wish to sit around and reap the benefits of their labour?

Would anyone else like to respond?

How can i help?

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OFF. ₭ARMA FB PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me. http://lill.com
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September 08, 2014, 07:10:14 PM
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Allow me to pose a question to the community, if I may.

As we discussed, we will focus on bringing Karma to unbanked populations in the Philippines
per http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,565.0.html

(Indonesia is also a prime target, as another member has pointed out.)

Please reply to this post with how do you think you can help make this happen. We don't want to be in a situation where the many are depending on the very few to make things happen. This surely can be a community effort. I don't mean the involvement of everyone in the community but I'm shooting for 2-5% actively working on something (assuming 300 members of the Karma community, including lurkers)

Being part of the Karma team does not presume activity, either. As most of the time we, the team, does what the community does (just talk without action). We need action now, not just pages and pages of text.

(This is the cold, hard reality. There is no beating around the bush.)

Anyone can come up with a plan. Hopefully, we can discover the plan together. My concern now (from my experiences with Karma) is "who will do the work to make it happen?"

I don't want to present a plan and be one of 2 people doing actual work to make it happen. We have only to take a look at the vast quantity of un-touched tasks on the Karmashares forum (even those that are assigned to specific people) to see a little of what I am talking about. Of course, after I began to see that people didn't want to be assigned responsibilities (or let others know what they're working on), I stopped creating tasks.

Lots of us talk about what needs to be done, but about 90% of the time Karma calls for help are met with radio silence.

"Somebody else did something, now let's talk about it" = 100
"Something needs to be done" = 50
"Here's what we can do" = 25
"Yes, I can help" = 12
"I will do this particular task and here's how I will do it" = 6
"Here is what I have done" = 2 or 3, including myself

Lack of active involvement is the fundamental issue here. We need less talk (especially about market movements and price) and more action (equates to value, especially long term price increases).

Why would anyone want to be the only person doing the work, while others wish to sit around and reap the benefits of their labour?

Would anyone else like to respond?

Ofcourse i want to help. The past days ive been trying to recruit people around me to buy karma, even if its a small share, everything counts.

So to answer your question

Yes, how can i help?
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September 08, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
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Allow me to pose a question to the community, if I may.

As we discussed, we will focus on bringing Karma to unbanked populations in the Philippines
per http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,565.0.html

(Indonesia is also a prime target, as another member has pointed out.)

Please reply to this post with how do you think you can help make this happen. We don't want to be in a situation where the many are depending on the very few to make things happen. This surely can be a community effort. I don't mean the involvement of everyone in the community but I'm shooting for 2-5% actively working on something (assuming 300 members of the Karma community, including lurkers)

Being part of the Karma team does not presume activity, either. As most of the time we, the team, does what the community does (just talk without action). We need action now, not just pages and pages of text.

(This is the cold, hard reality. There is no beating around the bush.)

Anyone can come up with a plan. Hopefully, we can discover the plan together. My concern now (from my experiences with Karma) is "who will do the work to make it happen?"

I don't want to present a plan and be one of 2 people doing actual work to make it happen. We have only to take a look at the vast quantity of un-touched tasks on the Karmashares forum (even those that are assigned to specific people) to see a little of what I am talking about. Of course, after I began to see that people didn't want to be assigned responsibilities (or let others know what they're working on), I stopped creating tasks.

Lots of us talk about what needs to be done, but about 90% of the time Karma calls for help are met with radio silence.

"Somebody else did something, now let's talk about it" = 100
"Something needs to be done" = 50
"Here's what we can do" = 25
"Yes, I can help" = 12
"I will do this particular task and here's how I will do it" = 6
"Here is what I have done" = 2 or 3, including myself

Lack of active involvement is the fundamental issue here. We need less talk (especially about market movements and price) and more action (equates to value, especially long term price increases).

Why would anyone want to be the only person doing the work, while others wish to sit around and reap the benefits of their labour?

Would anyone else like to respond?
Is there any need for some revenue/expense or statistical reporting that can help the community see what's going on with the LLC.  I could do something like that.  Maybe weekly or monthly.  I'm sure I can carve out some time somewhere.  Please let me know here or pm me.

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September 08, 2014, 07:18:14 PM
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I'll help anyway I can.

I have around 60 people signed up for a giveaway. Non crypto people. I'll try and get some of them to post here to say hello.

They're new to crypto but are keen to find out what it's all about.

If anyone would like to add to my fund for the giveaway let me know.
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September 08, 2014, 07:42:52 PM
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Simple answer to save KARM on c-cex.com, spend half a day mining another altcoin and buy the KARM with the other altcoin funds.

KARM/BTQ
KARM/LTC
KARM/DOGE
KARM/THC

Got any junk coins just laying around, use them to set up KARM trades.

Granted C-Cex isn't that heavy in volume, but anything is worthwhile and any delisting would be seen as negative to people new to KARM.


BTQ:  17NEp7WtUZt4V5RiFP6YHxD1hcte7U3sB8
LTC:  LeyXcTFxC5Ku3KDUyhwDHtLko1JwChd99h
FTC:  6n56LJKYrdgmsougCCjenLFtpPTcjFQ829
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September 08, 2014, 08:01:26 PM
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Simple answer to save KARM on c-cex.com, spend half a day mining another altcoin and buy the KARM with the other altcoin funds.

KARM/BTQ
KARM/LTC
KARM/DOGE
KARM/THC

Got any junk coins just laying around, use them to set up KARM trades.

Granted C-Cex isn't that heavy in volume, but anything is worthwhile and any delisting would be seen as negative to people new to KARM.



Would 5$ be enough?
Ill send you 1ltc you can buy with if you think it would be enough...
Buying some ltc right now so my order just needs to be matched.

Im not in the mood to create another account so with 1 ltc you can buy up to 360 litoshi or so, weird orders page.
And if you would be even kinder, donate the karma you bought to the donation fund for bounties.

Hope to hear from you Smiley
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September 08, 2014, 08:52:45 PM
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So the LLC address is seems to be sending coins out. porbably back to the investors. ...

http://explorer.karmacoin.me/address/K8rMbDnZ7xX9VqBXmLwA7DCnYra1ftw3gE


just saw it and i felt i should give everyone a heads up...


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September 08, 2014, 08:54:17 PM
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So the LLC address is seems to be sending coins out. porbably back to the investors. ...

http://explorer.karmacoin.me/address/K8rMbDnZ7xX9VqBXmLwA7DCnYra1ftw3gE


just saw it and i felt i should give everyone a heads up...




So what's going on?
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September 08, 2014, 08:57:58 PM
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So the LLC address is seems to be sending coins out. porbably back to the investors. ...

http://explorer.karmacoin.me/address/K8rMbDnZ7xX9VqBXmLwA7DCnYra1ftw3gE


just saw it and i felt i should give everyone a heads up...




So what's going on?

dunno yet.. all i can tell i saw that so i felt i should let everyone else know asap..
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September 08, 2014, 08:59:23 PM
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Only kosmost can send out coins from LLC so it only means one thing.

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September 08, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
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Only kosmost can send out coins from LLC so it only means one thing.

And that is?
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September 08, 2014, 09:06:16 PM
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Am i the only one who doesnt feel comfortable?
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September 08, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
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Only kosmost can send out coins from LLC so it only means one thing.

And that is?

Kosmost ending the LLC...
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September 08, 2014, 09:07:21 PM
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Am i the only one who doesnt feel comfortable?

No.
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September 08, 2014, 09:09:55 PM
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I had a feeling something was up when we saw all this energy around the coin and no Kosmost and also I found a bit odd the bounty fund without using any coins available on the LLC. BTW I sent 1mill to the fund.

Edit: Of course everything is speculation at this point.
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