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October 01, 2014, 11:40:08 PM
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It is not his obvious and ill intentions to Karma that surprise me. It is his incomprehension that at least 10 people here have researched him very, very well, not only based on the publicly online available resources. If you want my advice - use the ignore option. We know each other and it is pretty obvious that he won`t get what he wants. We also know that if he had the resources, knowledge and funding, he will start a new coin. More successful than Give or whatever, lol. Community (coin holders if you ask him) and Trademark in USA is what he is after. I am saying USA, cause only really stupid person can go for CTM application by the OHIM rules. It is only 900 Euro, but it is not giving to anyone the rights over the Trademark in all of the 28 EU countries. If someone wants a trademark in EU, he should know that it will be reaaaally expensive adventure and it will take at least a year. And at the end maybe it will not work. So only both, the combination of the coin holders and the Trademark in USA are what he is after.

Of course I offered to acquire the Trademark and hold it in a non-profit for the public trust.  You telling me you want KOSMOST to hold it for the rest of his life?

If you knew anything about Trademark utility then you'd know there is absolutely nothing stopping me or anyone else from just using the name.  My suggestion is to just let go of the fantasy that it's your own only asset.  And I highly doubt KOSMOST or anyone here would pay good money to try and bring a lawsuit against anyone using it.  You guy's can't even muster more than a couple hundred bucks for an API - snort

The funny thing is, despite the low interaction on the 2Give thread, we've actually seen a pretty dramatic rise in new miners in the last couple of weeks -- after all its X11 based and easy to make.  If you don't believe me, just watch our blockchain:

http://explorer.givecoin.info/chain/GiveCoin

And its poised to be reintroduced onto Bittrex and will have a featured place on spotlight panel when we launch 2Give.

You guys are completely free to try and ignore me -- I haven't pretended to be anonymous so feel free to dig around all you want.  I only hope you spend 1/2 as much time vetting everyone who comes here offering to help.

-dvd

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October 02, 2014, 02:19:41 AM
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If you knew anything about Trademark utility then you'd know there is absolutely nothing stopping me or anyone else from just using the name.  My suggestion is to just let go of the fantasy that it's your own only asset.  And I highly doubt KOSMOST or anyone here would pay good money to try and bring a lawsuit against anyone using it.  You guy's can't even muster more than a couple hundred bucks for an API - snort

-dvd

its getting tiring reading these kind of comments from you. it's the main reason you get people rattled in here. You make good post but you spoil them the moment you post something like this. Almost every single post you mock , or discredit everyone here.  Roll Eyes
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October 02, 2014, 02:52:07 AM
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If you knew anything about Trademark utility then you'd know there is absolutely nothing stopping me or anyone else from just using the name.  My suggestion is to just let go of the fantasy that it's your own only asset.  And I highly doubt KOSMOST or anyone here would pay good money to try and bring a lawsuit against anyone using it.  You guy's can't even muster more than a couple hundred bucks for an API - snort

-dvd

its getting tiring reading these kind of comments from you. it's the main reason you get people rattled in here. You make good post but you spoil them the moment you post something like this. Almost every single post you mock , or discredit everyone here.  Roll Eyes

Not everyone my friend -- only the people that make false accusations about my intent or about the state of the world...

I would hope that the community would set some standards for the use of the mark -- as well as sanction anyone that is doing anything that besmirches the good will?

This is a sensitive juncture for Karma the crypto coin -- 100% transparency and vigilance is required.

We can not allow "wishful thinking" to cloud our judgment.  We must rely on truth rooted in facts.

What I said may not be popular, but its absolutely true based on the evidence.  Let's not shy away from it.

If anything, lets simply acknowledge it and try and be and do better next opportunity.

IMHO

-dvd

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October 02, 2014, 10:51:56 AM
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I guess now all smart people will learn valuable lesson why they should not keep their coins on exchanges. Since the moment Mintpal announced their maintenance and the front end went down, the price of KARMA have spiked with 50% on Cryptsy, because of the lack of selling pressure. Once again - KEEP YOUR COINS IN YOUR WALLETS. For security and to help increasing the price.
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October 02, 2014, 01:14:17 PM
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nhzKARM
Asset ID#:14027245553053047036


^^^  Who's the bigger threat to Karma again?

All that coin you sent off blindly under the premise of an API ?

Everything that Alphi was accusing me of doing -- lol

I think I need a bigger bucket of popcorn now...

-dvd

PS: As PROMISED Givecoin has been re-listed on BITTREX https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-GIVE


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October 02, 2014, 01:50:14 PM
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KarmaCoin Dice
House Edge 1.1%
http://karm.dice.cryptospot.me
Enjoy!

WARNING ! THIS USER IS CrytpoTV !  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358668

Karm.dice by xPooky - https://who.is/whois-ip/ip-address/104.131.32.242

Greenbackblackjack by CryptoTV - https://who.is/whois-ip/ip-address/104.131.48.34

DO NOT TRUST !

I'm sorry to hear about you getting hacked CryptoTV.  That really sucks man.

Sucks that this is what crypto is about to many people out there... "How can I fuck over someone else by stealing all their coins"  Its shameful.
Yup, anyone who is wondering why BTC is crashing?  How many people like me who had their BTC hacked, scammed, stolen, or manipulated left the market for good?  I'm not talking about the regular day traders at BCT, I'm talking about regular Joe who increases the price with their money.

manipulate and hack away, I guess we'll all be back to using fiat soon.

You're really beginning to sound like the scammin sketchbag 42dice. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=233189

Did you honestly miss the 'double' glitch ? eg. I doubled down, should have won 360 but was only paid 180 or 270...

HMMmm..

The cheese setup/graphics.. the zero beta test/ hurried launch... and the coin dev who easily gives the site his stamp of approval.
edit: I did not mean to imply that Delta9 was involved.

HOLY FUCKING DEJA VU MAAAN ! I WENT THROUGH THIS WITH 42DICE.

Shocked
?  dude, all I did was purchase this script.  sorry if my good intentions bother you.  Yes, I read your post and was getting it fixed when this happened.  What exactly are you trying to say?  Nobody actually lost very much money besides me So who did I scam?

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October 02, 2014, 02:00:08 PM
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KarmaCoin Dice
House Edge 1.1%
http://karm.dice.cryptospot.me
Enjoy!

WARNING ! THIS USER IS CrytpoTV !  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358668

Karm.dice by xPooky - https://who.is/whois-ip/ip-address/104.131.32.242

Greenbackblackjack by CryptoTV - https://who.is/whois-ip/ip-address/104.131.48.34

DO NOT TRUST !

I'm sorry to hear about you getting hacked CryptoTV.  That really sucks man.

Sucks that this is what crypto is about to many people out there... "How can I fuck over someone else by stealing all their coins"  Its shameful.
Yup, anyone who is wondering why BTC is crashing?  How many people like me who had their BTC hacked, scammed, stolen, or manipulated left the market for good?  I'm not talking about the regular day traders at BCT, I'm talking about regular Joe who increases the price with their money.

manipulate and hack away, I guess we'll all be back to using fiat soon.

You're really beginning to sound like the scammin sketchbag 42dice. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=233189

Did you honestly miss the 'double' glitch ? eg. I doubled down, should have won 360 but was only paid 180 or 270...

HMMmm..

The cheese setup/graphics.. the zero beta test/ hurried launch and the coin dev who easily gives the site his stamp of approval.

HOLY FUCKING DEJA VU MAAAN ! I WENT THROUGH THIS WITH 42DICE.

Shocked
?  dude, all I did was purchase this script.  sorry if my good intentions bother you.  Yes, I read your post and was getting it fixed when this happened.  What exactly are you trying to say?  Nobody actually lost very much money besides me So who did I scam?
You dude besides being fuder(i see you everywher) are idiot, want me to send you my passport to prove in exchange for yours?
And that whois only proves we both have VPS from digital ocean, so so stupid

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October 02, 2014, 10:41:17 PM
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nhzKARM... I'm so happy to see that  Cheesy  Smiley

You have some free nhzKARM to claim! All those listed in the image have.

TIP ME ₭ARMA:  KJeEKJv1LXHM8cYeRgQG3q87BFA4W3sTGg  FOR KARMA TRANSLATION BUDGET SEND TO: KHvkhA7RTFnG8N5RWPB48gs2y8K1od6xF4
OFF. ₭ARMA FB PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me. http://lill.com
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October 02, 2014, 11:23:28 PM
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nhzKARM... I'm so happy to see that  Cheesy  Smiley

You have some free nhzKARM to claim! All those listed in the image have.

Untill when can we claim?

And untill when can we buy nhzKARMA with the 10x ratio?

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October 03, 2014, 03:39:46 AM
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nhzKARM... I'm so happy to see that  Cheesy  Smiley

You have some free nhzKARM to claim! All those listed in the image have.

Great news!!! But how to claim nhzKARM? Do I have to tell you my account ID?
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October 03, 2014, 05:33:11 AM
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nhzKARM... I'm so happy to see that  Cheesy  Smiley

You have some free nhzKARM to claim! All those listed in the image have.

Great news!!! But how to claim nhzKARM? Do I have to tell you my account ID?

Yes, so I can send it.

TIP ME ₭ARMA:  KJeEKJv1LXHM8cYeRgQG3q87BFA4W3sTGg  FOR KARMA TRANSLATION BUDGET SEND TO: KHvkhA7RTFnG8N5RWPB48gs2y8K1od6xF4
OFF. ₭ARMA FB PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me. http://lill.com
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October 03, 2014, 05:33:55 AM
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nhzKARM... I'm so happy to see that  Cheesy  Smiley

You have some free nhzKARM to claim! All those listed in the image have.

Untill when can we claim?

And untill when can we buy nhzKARMA with the 10x ratio?

Within 7 days from announcement.

TIP ME ₭ARMA:  KJeEKJv1LXHM8cYeRgQG3q87BFA4W3sTGg  FOR KARMA TRANSLATION BUDGET SEND TO: KHvkhA7RTFnG8N5RWPB48gs2y8K1od6xF4
OFF. ₭ARMA FB PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me. http://lill.com
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October 03, 2014, 06:02:44 AM
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nhzKARM... I'm so happy to see that  Cheesy  Smiley

You have some free nhzKARM to claim! All those listed in the image have.

Untill when can we claim?

And untill when can we buy nhzKARMA with the 10x ratio?

Within 7 days from announcement.

And the "dividends" will be paid with the fresh capital of new "investors"?  Cry
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October 03, 2014, 06:06:49 AM
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nhzKARM... I'm so happy to see that  Cheesy  Smiley

You have some free nhzKARM to claim! All those listed in the image have.

Untill when can we claim?

And untill when can we buy nhzKARMA with the 10x ratio?

Within 7 days from announcement.

And the "dividends" will be paid with the fresh capital of new "investors"?  Cry

"fresh capital" is capital
, dividends will be coming from profits.


"Where will the profits of nhzKARM come from?


The collected fund from the sale of these assets will be used for mining, coins trading and NHZ coins staking. Other profit generating project will also be sought in the future, such as but not limited to online selling of tangible products. 100% profits made through these ventures will be distributed to nhzKARM asset holders, according to the percentage of the asset they have, against the total number of nhzKARM assets." - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=806320.msg9045325#msg9045325


TIP ME ₭ARMA:  KJeEKJv1LXHM8cYeRgQG3q87BFA4W3sTGg  FOR KARMA TRANSLATION BUDGET SEND TO: KHvkhA7RTFnG8N5RWPB48gs2y8K1od6xF4
OFF. ₭ARMA FB PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me. http://lill.com
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October 03, 2014, 10:08:30 AM
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nhzKARM... I'm so happy to see that  Cheesy  Smiley

You have some free nhzKARM to claim! All those listed in the image have.

Untill when can we claim?

And untill when can we buy nhzKARMA with the 10x ratio?

Within 7 days from announcement.

And the "dividends" will be paid with the fresh capital of new "investors"?  Cry

"fresh capital" is capital
, dividends will be coming from profits.


"Where will the profits of nhzKARM come from?


The collected fund from the sale of these assets will be used for mining, coins trading and NHZ coins staking. Other profit generating project will also be sought in the future, such as but not limited to online selling of tangible products. 100% profits made through these ventures will be distributed to nhzKARM asset holders, according to the percentage of the asset they have, against the total number of nhzKARM assets." - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=806320.msg9045325#msg9045325




Bernard Madoff was able to create big profits for his investors for more than 20 years;) Good ponzi scheme can last for years. What differs this from 99% of Cryptostocks.com scams? On Cryptostocks scammer had to pay 1 BTC/Month fee, so it was always fast crash. What proof you can provide to show us you did not start KARM scam 2.0?
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October 03, 2014, 10:26:49 AM
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Didn't see that one coming East.

I remember when I first learned about these assets (in context of NXT) a while ago, I thought "this is the way Karmashares should work". It has almost all the features Karmashares should have had, except for the "problem" that it is tied to another currency instead of actual Karma, which is ... a not insignificant issue. Wink

Never heard of NHZ before and "nhzKARM Asset-ID#:14027245553053047036" isn't exactly a catchy name. But since I apparently am due for some "free" assets due to my donations, I'll take that offer and see how it works out. It is an interesting idea for sure, though I'm not sure about all of the implications it might carry going forward.

With Karmashares there was an initially clearly defined strategy, with plans laid out for several projects, a company to back it up etc. - seemed like a great idea at the time. Right now for this we've pretty much only got your word and from the reactions in this thread I guess the rest of the team were not even involved up to this point?

If I had to invest any actual new money into this I'd like a bit more transparency and clarification before going ahead and buy into this. What exactly do I buy into with this asset? Is this supposed to be Karmashares 2.0 without an actual company? Or more or less just a different way to gather funds for development instead of donations? What is the IPO money going to be used for, who else is involved, what projects are planned, how are the funds going to be managed - that sort of stuff.

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October 03, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
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Didn't see that one coming East.

I remember when I first learned about these assets (in context of NXT) a while ago, I thought "this is the way Karmashares should work". It has almost all the features Karmashares should have had, except for the "problem" that it is tied to another currency instead of actual Karma, which is ... a not insignificant issue. Wink

Never heard of NHZ before and "nhzKARM Asset-ID#:14027245553053047036" isn't exactly a catchy name. But since I apparently am due for some "free" assets due to my donations, I'll take that offer and see how it works out. It is an interesting idea for sure, though I'm not sure about all of the implications it might carry going forward.

With Karmashares there was an initially clearly defined strategy, with plans laid out for several projects, a company to back it up etc. - seemed like a great idea at the time. Right now for this we've pretty much only got your word and from the reactions in this thread I guess the rest of the team were not even involved up to this point?

If I had to invest any actual new money into this I'd like a bit more transparency and clarification before going ahead and buy into this. What exactly do I buy into with this asset? Is this supposed to be Karmashares 2.0 without an actual company? Or more or less just a different way to gather funds for development instead of donations? What is the IPO money going to be used for, who else is involved, what projects are planned, how are the funds going to be managed - that sort of stuff.

Nice, questions socoban and learminer.

As written on the thread for nhzKARM, every business venture has the risk of loss. I wont pretend that this project is guaranteed with success. Ponzi? Please see ponzi's characteristics and decide for yourself if this fit the bill.

NHZ assets are steps forward in applying the wonderful technological advancement made possible by the creation of the "blockchain", a public ledger. We are just trying to harness that
through nhzKARM.

Let us compare nhzKARM to what we have experienced before this, in the hope that it'll be easier to digest.

LLC:
We sent our coins to it, 8.6B in exchange for PDFs. Something that tied our coins for some months.
Did it gain profit? NO.
Was the PDF trade-able to other digital asset of value? NO. We actually hoped but it never materialized.
Was there a possibility of loss? YES.
Was there a possibility of a scam? YES, although we are not scammed, in the sense that the coins we put in were returned.
Did we need to trust somebody with that? YES
Was there a possibility of profit? YES
Was there a possibility of success? YES
Was there a possibility of failure? YES, and it did.
Did it helped KARMA? YES, for a while.
Were we involved? We decide.

Karma Funding Donations:
We sent our coins to donations in exchange for the good feeling that we are helping KARMA.
Did it gain profit? NO
Can we trade that to other digital assets of value? NO
Was there a possibility of loss? YES, total
Was there a possibility of scam? YES, although you can still check that all those funds are still there, through the public ledger we call blockchain explorer.
Did we need to trust somebody with that? YES
Was there a possibility of success? YES
Was there a possibility of failure? YES
Did it help KARMA? YES- ongoing
Were we involved? We decide.


When we put our money in a banking service, the similar things can be seen(yet not exactly the same)
When we put our money in an online payment service like paypal. there are similar situation.
When we put our money to a friend's loan request.
When we put our money inside a safe.

Now, nhzKARM:
We have to send NHZ coins in exchange for nhzKARM assets.
Will it gain profit? YES
Can we trade that to other digital assets of value? YES
Was there a possibility of loss? YES
Was there a possibility of scam? YES, and so are many other coins and assets launched, we only depend on the past record of the devs that create and launch them.
Did we need to trust somebody with that? YES
Was there a possibility of success? YES
Was there a possibility of failure? YES
Will it help KARMA? YES- ongoing
Were we involved? You decide.


Remember, although many things can be similar, this is still a part of a revolution, we can be similar but nhzKARM will still be different.

The point is, there is always someone or something we need to trust and always a chance of loss. ALWAYS.

What are the plans of use so that it may make a profit?

"Where will the profits of nhzKARM come from?

The collected fund from the sale of these assets will be used for mining, coins trading and NHZ coins staking. Other profit generating project will also be sought in the future, such as but not limited to online selling of tangible products. 100% profits made through these ventures will be distributed to nhzKARM asset holders, according to the percentage of the asset they have, against the total number of nhzKARM assets."

The exact percentages of the fund that will be invested in these various ventures will be determined later when the first week of IPO is finished.
Some will be put in a longer more stable form of investments, though they may make smaller gains but at least they are stable.
Some will be used for trading
Some will be used for mining (IF AND WHEN we can be sure this is not a losing option)
Some will be used for staking, safest but very small gains.

Exact details on where, when and how much will be provided on the thread of nhzKARM.

No one should rush into it nor out of it. Just do your due diligence, you can wait on how things go forward, anyway you can get in and out of this anytime, by purchasing or selling your assets to the prevailing market offers.

Compare, research and decide. I wont hold it against you, if you decide not to get involved.


Thanks again for your interest.

-east

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October 03, 2014, 03:24:41 PM
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anyone excited to see what mintpal v.2 will bring?

not only will they open fiat to coins. but they also are merging their moolah userbase. their latest tweet said that were merging over 500k users.

That a ton a trading users!


I am excited to see how this will pan out!
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October 03, 2014, 09:44:52 PM
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What a sad turn of events in the last few days.

I hope you can now see what direction people like Easteagle want to take you in...

nhzKARM looks and smells exactly like a ponzi scheme meant to enrich the few.

This of course on heels of a bunch of you sending him coins purportedly for some undefined API.

If you guys wanna set your coins on fire, at least you could send them here

https://doabitofgood.com/Bit4Bit

And be able to verify what they get used for.

You wanted a demonstration of goodwill, we delivered by adding Karma to our system for actual GOOD, not ponzi or dice games.

Kosmost, bitwho,  chargin, scryptminer, et al you know our intent is good and we have the horsepower to make it real.

Join us by helping establish a board of directors, like a city council, to plan and promote REAL development uses for Karma in the REAL WORLD.

Everyday without a clear direction, the more fraud and selfish interests are going to prevail.

While you may tolerate these clearly unsavory uses, it builds more fodder for Google to align Karma with greed and fraud.  When new users go to do their research this is what they are going to find, because as a community without standards, you tacitly permit it.

Karma should have a council of stakeholders much in the same way the Apache Foundation runs.

Does no one here have the fortitude to stand up and cry foul?

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Ok.. ok.. I will troll harder ! Grin


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