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February 20, 2015, 12:41:17 PM
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< 0.14$ is reasonable in my mind for the forced mixing of 3 at POL. which increases every ones anonymity.  And for the people who will say that they shouldn't be forced to make anonymous transactions if they don't want to all I can say is that Monero is a anonymous and private currency, it was always mean to be.  There are hundreds of other coins which don't offer this feature set and transactions are free or the fee is smaller such as DOGE, etc. use those.



Damn! TX Fee: 0.5 XMR  on poloniex.

Can some dev talk to them to lower the fee?

WTF? A < $0.14 fee for a transaction? Are you only buying one? They have to make a profit from their service dude. They are being more than fair.

Actually I see 0.2 XMR fee and I find it quite big too. It was 0.1 for long time and I see no reason for increase.
When I do mine, I get less than 0.1 XMR / day.

They also get 0.2% per transaction, so I don't think that they are that poor. I start having a feeling that they actually have some reasons to want us (the small holders) keep the XMR in their exchange instead of our wallets...
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February 20, 2015, 12:42:14 PM
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Damn! TX Fee: 0.5 XMR  on poloniex.

Can some dev talk to them to lower the fee?

WTF? A < $0.14 fee for a transaction? Are you only buying one? They have to make a profit from their service dude. They are being more than fair.

Actually I see 0.2 XMR fee and I find it quite big too. It was 0.1 for long time and I see no reason for increase.
When I do mine, I get less than 0.1 XMR / day.

They also get 0.2% per transaction, so I don't think that they are that poor. I start having a feeling that they actually have some reasons to want us (the small holders) keep the XMR in their exchange instead of our wallets...

well yes, generally, banks (or those mimicking some type of bank) want you to keep your money in their vaults, for whatever reason.

hence cryptocurrencies "be your own bank".

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February 20, 2015, 01:41:35 PM
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Got something against Estonia?

Omg no! Just .. imagine you have a castle and a guy comes to your door and tells "hey! i'm user38913 from the forums, can we go inside for a beer? ah, and a party?".

If I owned and you showed up in the middle of nowhere I would gladly give you a beer. You bring the women.

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February 20, 2015, 02:01:13 PM
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< 0.14$ is reasonable in my mind for the forced mixing of 3 at POL. which increases every ones anonymity.  And for the people who will say that they shouldn't be forced to make anonymous transactions if they don't want to all I can say is that Monero is a anonymous and private currency, it was always mean to be.  There are hundreds of other coins which don't offer this feature set and transactions are free or the fee is smaller such as DOGE, etc. use those.

You look at the problem from the wrong side, imho.
While other exchanges use 0.1-like fees, this fee doesn't actually help Poloniex either.

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February 20, 2015, 02:11:08 PM
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Other exchanges don't force the mixing count of 3 and therefore don't increase the networks overall anonymity.  Anonymity and privacy don't come free and in this day and age with everything that is going on around us this is a tiny price to pay IMHO.

You are right, the benefit is not for the exchange rather the benefit is for the Monero network.

< 0.14$ is reasonable in my mind for the forced mixing of 3 at POL. which increases every ones anonymity.  And for the people who will say that they shouldn't be forced to make anonymous transactions if they don't want to all I can say is that Monero is a anonymous and private currency, it was always mean to be.  There are hundreds of other coins which don't offer this feature set and transactions are free or the fee is smaller such as DOGE, etc. use those.

You look at the problem from the wrong side, imho.
While other exchanges use 0.1-like fees, this fee doesn't actually help Poloniex either.
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February 20, 2015, 02:16:24 PM
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Monero got a deserving first-spot mention in this letstalkbitcoin blog-post:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/which-altcoins-and-why

I like the example they used to illustrate Monero, its perfect Cheesy
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February 20, 2015, 02:45:15 PM
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Monero got a deserving first-spot mention in this letstalkbitcoin blog-post:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/which-altcoins-and-why

I like the example they used to illustrate Monero, its perfect Cheesy

The guy doesn't have much clue seeing how he speaks of DRK, though. I find it so ridiculous when people happily throw away fluff terms like "instantX", "DarkSend 2", "Telepathy"...
I'm pleased the only fluffy thing we have in Monero is a pony.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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Monero got a deserving first-spot mention in this letstalkbitcoin blog-post:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/which-altcoins-and-why

I like the example they used to illustrate Monero, its perfect Cheesy

The guy doesn't have much clue seeing how he speaks of DRK, though. I find it so ridiculous when people happily throw away fluff terms like "instantX", "DarkSend 2", "Telepathy"...
I'm pleased the only fluffy thing we have in Monero is a pony.


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February 20, 2015, 04:11:49 PM
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Monero's 1 year birthday is approaching on April 18, 2015. How do you guys want to celebrate?

Party at the castle.

I'll be bringing a box of Cohiba torpedo's, been waiting for a special occasion to open it...  So, where's the castle at ? Smiley

A google search for "bitcoin castle" will show you quite well where's that, just.. you may need an invitation to actually get in there  Grin

Got something against Estonia?

Might get "Interesting" there. I hope not. Sad

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31528981

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February 20, 2015, 06:47:59 PM
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...

Might get "Interesting" there. I hope not. Sad

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31528981

There is a certain very large bear in the vicinity of the castle.

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February 20, 2015, 06:52:27 PM
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The guy doesn't have much clue seeing how he speaks of DRK, though. I find it so ridiculous when people happily throw away fluff terms like "instantX", "DarkSend 2", "Telepathy"...
I'm pleased the only fluffy thing we have in Monero is a pony.


You called?

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February 20, 2015, 07:06:41 PM
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Monero's 1 year birthday is approaching on April 18, 2015. How do you guys want to celebrate?

Party at the castle.

I'll be bringing a box of Cohiba torpedo's, been waiting for a special occasion to open it...  So, where's the castle at ? Smiley

A google search for "bitcoin castle" will show you quite well where's that, just.. you may need an invitation to actually get in there  Grin

Got something against Estonia?

Might get "Interesting" there. I hope not. Sad

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31528981

BBC propaganda machine at work.

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February 20, 2015, 07:46:56 PM
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What is with this shit coin. Blockchain is now 22 hour´s beeing downloading and i have 167 day´s to sync???

I will buy and away with my coins from an exchance to my wallet.

my wallet is monero client.net

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February 20, 2015, 07:53:26 PM
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What is with this shit coin. Blockchain is now 22 hour´s beeing downloading and i have 167 day´s to sync???

I will buy and away with my coins from an exchance to my wallet.

my wallet is monero client.net

Have you tried to sync bitcoin to see how long it takes? Or you are just familiar with 10days coins with zero transactions? Oh and if you want a real untraceable currency then unfortunately you have to deal with a bigger blockchain.

Btw in the OP there is a copy of blockchain to download usually kinda updated. You can always use this too: https://mymonero.com/#/
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February 20, 2015, 07:58:50 PM
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The only culprit trying to destabilize that region of the world is the usual perpetrator, America.

Monero's 1 year birthday is approaching on April 18, 2015. How do you guys want to celebrate?

Party at the castle.

I'll be bringing a box of Cohiba torpedo's, been waiting for a special occasion to open it...  So, where's the castle at ? Smiley

A google search for "bitcoin castle" will show you quite well where's that, just.. you may need an invitation to actually get in there  Grin

Got something against Estonia?

Might get "Interesting" there. I hope not. Sad

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31528981
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February 20, 2015, 08:02:53 PM
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What is with this shit coin. Blockchain is now 22 hour´s beeing downloading and i have 167 day´s to sync???

I will buy and away with my coins from an exchance to my wallet.

my wallet is monero client.net

Have you tried to sync bitcoin to see how long it takes? Or you are just familiar with 10days coins with zero transactions? Oh and if you want a real untraceable currency then unfortunately you have to deal with a bigger blockchain.

Btw in the OP there is a copy of blockchain to download usually kinda updated. You can always use this too: https://mymonero.com/#/

I have download this shit, but its very very slow, by darkcoin ists realy realy faster.

I will 5k Fiat change to xmr, but its so slow.

IS mymonero.com 100% safe?  Thy safest Place is my extra Notebook for coins, only online to buy or sell

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February 20, 2015, 08:12:45 PM
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What is with this shit coin. Blockchain is now 22 hour´s beeing downloading and i have 167 day´s to sync???

I will buy and away with my coins from an exchance to my wallet.

my wallet is monero client.net

Have you tried to sync bitcoin to see how long it takes? Or you are just familiar with 10days coins with zero transactions? Oh and if you want a real untraceable currency then unfortunately you have to deal with a bigger blockchain.

Btw in the OP there is a copy of blockchain to download usually kinda updated. You can always use this too: https://mymonero.com/#/

I have download this shit, but its very very slow, by darkcoin ists realy realy faster.

I will 5k Fiat change to xmr, but its so slow.

IS mymonero.com 100% safe?  Thy safest Place is my extra Notebook for coins, only online to buy or sell

By monero, darkcoin ists realy realy not untraceable.

mymonero.com is safe. Certainly not as safe as having your own wallet.
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February 20, 2015, 08:12:58 PM
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The only culprit trying to destabilize that region of the world is the usual perpetrator, America.

Monero's 1 year birthday is approaching on April 18, 2015. How do you guys want to celebrate?

Party at the castle.

I'll be bringing a box of Cohiba torpedo's, been waiting for a special occasion to open it...  So, where's the castle at ? Smiley

A google search for "bitcoin castle" will show you quite well where's that, just.. you may need an invitation to actually get in there  Grin

Got something against Estonia?

Might get "Interesting" there. I hope not. Sad

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31528981

I hope by posting that I have not become complicit!

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February 20, 2015, 08:19:19 PM
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What is with this shit coin. Blockchain is now 22 hour´s beeing downloading and i have 167 day´s to sync???

I will buy and away with my coins from an exchance to my wallet.

my wallet is monero client.net

Have you tried to sync bitcoin to see how long it takes? Or you are just familiar with 10days coins with zero transactions? Oh and if you want a real untraceable currency then unfortunately you have to deal with a bigger blockchain.

Btw in the OP there is a copy of blockchain to download usually kinda updated. You can always use this too: https://mymonero.com/#/

I have download this shit, but its very very slow, by darkcoin ists realy realy faster.

I will 5k Fiat change to xmr, but its so slow.

IS mymonero.com 100% safe?  Thy safest Place is my extra Notebook for coins, only online to buy or sell

mymonero is safe, getting it to work on your notebook is safer, building a live-USB wallet is even safer, and creating a cold wallet is the safest.

Options for going forward without downloading blockchain:

mymonero

Cold wallet - no need to download blockchain.

Also, you can point your wallet to a remote node, no need to download blockchain.


but if you really want your coins secure, word on the street is switching to linux. Seriously. Spend 50$, buy a 64 gig USB drive, load ubuntu on it.


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February 20, 2015, 08:27:34 PM
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Can all of the awesome monero pool operators configure their servers to function as remote nodes?

Would really help with stuff like captain 5 grand up there.

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