[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[iluvbitcoins]

So, I have a couple of questions

I have searched for ways to sign transactions offline and found this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6b2od3/a_stepbystep_guide_for_cold_storage_and_offline/

However, what I don't understand is, how will I get a tx file from an unsynced gui?
Going to Send will result in "Start Daemon" or someting like that, won't it?

I have also found this
https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/bitmonero/commit/3c44e9fb6c1b57852d37780414ed6e42afc19afb

For the cli I assume
However, I'm not that code savy and I fail even at the beginning  
Specify wallet file name - I type the wallet file name, or the path
And it results in the cli crashing

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg18896526#msg18896526

(Offline Computer) Open your cold wallet. In the "Send" panel, click "Sign tx file", and select the file that you copied from your USB.

Impossible to do since
"Wallet is not connected to Daemon
Start daemon"

Hmm, wait

EDIT:
If someone is facing the same problem reading this in the future
The problem was the inability to navigate through the wallet
Canceling the daemon doesn't allow you to do anything at all
Don't click cancel upon starting the wallet, click use custom settings
Don't set anything but you'll be able to navigate to Send and tx files  

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[dazbog835]

Which types of transactions do you guys think would benefit most from a private coin like monero? What other things besides the illegal ones? Fishing for some cool arguments for convincing people of monero's value

[iluvbitcoins]

Which types of transactions do you guys think would benefit most from a private coin like monero? What other things besides the illegal ones? Fishing for some cool arguments for convincing people of monero's value

Liberty.

If you don't want your coins to be seized from the goverment, bank or whoever, Monero is a tool for liberty.

In the 21st century, freedom is gone.
It has been leaked even Signal and WhatsApp encryptions were broken and spyed on, facebook and other messengers don't even need to be mentioned.

All cryptocurrency is a tool that goes away from centralisation and surveillance, however monero takes privacy a step further.

Our society is missing that, we have no privacy anymore.

Monero provides that.

[dazbog835]

Which types of transactions do you guys think would benefit most from a private coin like monero? What other things besides the illegal ones? Fishing for some cool arguments for convincing people of monero's value

Liberty.

If you don't want your coins to be seized from the goverment, bank or whoever, Monero is a tool for liberty.

In the 21st century, freedom is gone.
It has been leaked even Signal and WhatsApp encryptions were broken and spyed on, facebook and other messengers don't even need to be mentioned.

All cryptocurrency is a tool that goes away from centralisation and surveillance, however monero takes privacy a step further.

Our society is missing that, we have no privacy anymore.

Monero provides that.

I was hoping for answers more in terms of examples? I understand the risks and the threat of spying and invasion of privacy. But these things are usually too conceptual for people to really 'feel' them.
What are some real world examples of how monero would benefit you? Like the example of ordering pizza by bitcoin and the pizzaboy being able to see if your wallet has a lot of btc in it and maybe plan to rob you once his shift is over...
you know, real world examples. not platitudes, however real they actually are.

[owlcatz]

I was hoping for answers more in terms of examples? I understand the risks and the threat of spying and invasion of privacy. But these things are usually too conceptual for people to really 'feel' them.
What are some real world examples of how monero would benefit you? Like the example of ordering pizza by bitcoin and the pizzaboy being able to see if your wallet has a lot of btc in it and maybe plan to rob you once his shift is over...
you know, real world examples. not platitudes, however real they actually are.

Certainly here is one example I can think of.... I'm in the USA... I am doing business (legal) with someone in ... say... Russia.... Do I necessarily want to pay them for something using BTC, when instead I can use XMR? No, of course not. Why? Well we all know the answer I believe? 

That's just one. I can think of plenty more where you don't want to leave a "trail" ... legal or not... 

[c789]

Which types of transactions do you guys think would benefit most from a private coin like monero? What other things besides the illegal ones? Fishing for some cool arguments for convincing people of monero's value

In the US there is civil asset forfeiture. Authorities can take your cash without you being convicted of anything. Here's a few examples (only a few...this happens much more often than people realize)

http://dailysignal.com/2015/10/16/why-police-can-legally-seize-your-cash/

Instead of cash, I'd rather have untraceable Monero.

[Kanati]

Which types of transactions do you guys think would benefit most from a private coin like monero? What other things besides the illegal ones? Fishing for some cool arguments for convincing people of monero's value

In the US there is civil asset forfeiture. Authorities can take your cash without you being convicted of anything. Here's a few examples (only a few...this happens much more often than people realize)

http://dailysignal.com/2015/10/16/why-police-can-legally-seize-your-cash/

Instead of cash, I'd rather have untraceable Monero.

Short answer - it's complicated.

Longer answer - even if you have Monero you could be forced to surrender your password if there is suspicion of you hiding ill gotten gains in your wallet:
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/11071/police-force-password-cellphone/

Basically the 4th AND 5th amendments to the U.S. Constitution have both been trashed by successive administrations.

I think the best law-abiding argument in favor of Monero is that you can be your own bank and keep your assets safe and confidential. The Government is certainly stealing from we the people, but commercial banks are getting their piece of the action as well (recent example...):
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/07/wells-fargo-awash-in-scandal-faces-violations-over-car-insurance-refunds.html

My advice - keep it secret, keep it safe, and consider getting the hell out of the FUBAR republic.

[DaveyJones]

Impossible to do since
"Wallet is not connected to Daemon
Start daemon"

Hmm, wait

EDIT:
If someone is facing the same problem reading this in the future
The problem was the inability to navigate through the wallet
Canceling the daemon doesn't allow you to do anything at all
Don't click cancel upon starting the wallet, click use custom settings
Don't set anything but you'll be able to navigate to Send and tx files  

Forwarded your problem to the GUI devs so it might probably be fixed one time in the future

[dazbog835]

Short answer - it's complicated.

Longer answer - even if you have Monero you could be forced to surrender your password if there is suspicion of you hiding ill gotten gains in your wallet:
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/11071/police-force-password-cellphone/

Basically the 4th AND 5th amendments to the U.S. Constitution have both been trashed by successive administrations.

I think the best law-abiding argument in favor of Monero is that you can be your own bank and keep your assets safe and confidential. The Government is certainly stealing from we the people, but commercial banks are getting their piece of the action as well (recent example...):
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/07/wells-fargo-awash-in-scandal-faces-violations-over-car-insurance-refunds.html

My advice - keep it secret, keep it safe, and consider getting the hell out of the FUBAR republic.

Luckily I don't live in the US and I don't face these problems. It surprises me every time I hear what this 'bastion of freedom' actually does to its citizens. Wish you all the best.

[Hueristic]

Short answer - it's complicated.

Longer answer - even if you have Monero you could be forced to surrender your password if there is suspicion of you hiding ill gotten gains in your wallet:
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/11071/police-force-password-cellphone/

Basically the 4th AND 5th amendments to the U.S. Constitution have both been trashed by successive administrations.

I think the best law-abiding argument in favor of Monero is that you can be your own bank and keep your assets safe and confidential. The Government is certainly stealing from we the people, but commercial banks are getting their piece of the action as well (recent example...):
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/07/wells-fargo-awash-in-scandal-faces-violations-over-car-insurance-refunds.html

My advice - keep it secret, keep it safe, and consider getting the hell out of the FUBAR republic.

Luckily I don't live in the US and I don't face these problems. It surprises me every time I hear what this 'bastion of freedom' actually does to its citizens. Wish you all the best.

The funny. really sad. thing is that most people in the US have no idea what is going on and think they live in the freest place on the earth. Sheeple morons.

[fratrad]

Why Monero isnt on a CNY exchange?

[dazbog835]

Short answer - it's complicated.

Longer answer - even if you have Monero you could be forced to surrender your password if there is suspicion of you hiding ill gotten gains in your wallet:
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/11071/police-force-password-cellphone/

Basically the 4th AND 5th amendments to the U.S. Constitution have both been trashed by successive administrations.

I think the best law-abiding argument in favor of Monero is that you can be your own bank and keep your assets safe and confidential. The Government is certainly stealing from we the people, but commercial banks are getting their piece of the action as well (recent example...):
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/07/wells-fargo-awash-in-scandal-faces-violations-over-car-insurance-refunds.html

My advice - keep it secret, keep it safe, and consider getting the hell out of the FUBAR republic.

Luckily I don't live in the US and I don't face these problems. It surprises me every time I hear what this 'bastion of freedom' actually does to its citizens. Wish you all the best.

The funny. really sad. thing is that most people in the US have no idea what is going on and think they live in the freest place on the earth. Sheeple morons.

and people around the world still buy into the whole notion of american dream. I think Jeffries said it best in this video.
https://youtu.be/xukGZnD-xDE?t=12m31s
I love both these guys!

[jibrelnetwork]

Which types of transactions do you guys think would benefit most from a private coin like monero? What other things besides the illegal ones? Fishing for some cool arguments for convincing people of monero's value

Could be used in systems where transactions being kept private is advantageous (e.g. trades).

[Kanati]

Short answer - it's complicated.

Longer answer - even if you have Monero you could be forced to surrender your password if there is suspicion of you hiding ill gotten gains in your wallet:
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/11071/police-force-password-cellphone/

Basically the 4th AND 5th amendments to the U.S. Constitution have both been trashed by successive administrations.

I think the best law-abiding argument in favor of Monero is that you can be your own bank and keep your assets safe and confidential. The Government is certainly stealing from we the people, but commercial banks are getting their piece of the action as well (recent example...):
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/07/wells-fargo-awash-in-scandal-faces-violations-over-car-insurance-refunds.html

My advice - keep it secret, keep it safe, and consider getting the hell out of the FUBAR republic.

Luckily I don't live in the US and I don't face these problems. It surprises me every time I hear what this 'bastion of freedom' actually does to its citizens. Wish you all the best.

The funny. really sad. thing is that most people in the US have no idea what is going on and think they live in the freest place on the earth. Sheeple morons.

and people around the world still buy into the whole notion of american dream. I think Jeffries said it best in this video.
https://youtu.be/xukGZnD-xDE?t=12m31s
I love both these guys!

The American Dream is not dead - it's just leaving Amerika. Each year more of us "moronic sheeple" wander off the plantation to make a new start in other parts of the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNKKwek_rN4

[TC Alt 20]

Any new development or product releases around the corner?

[Hueristic]

Short answer - it's complicated.

Longer answer - even if you have Monero you could be forced to surrender your password if there is suspicion of you hiding ill gotten gains in your wallet:
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/features-issue-sections/11071/police-force-password-cellphone/

Basically the 4th AND 5th amendments to the U.S. Constitution have both been trashed by successive administrations.

I think the best law-abiding argument in favor of Monero is that you can be your own bank and keep your assets safe and confidential. The Government is certainly stealing from we the people, but commercial banks are getting their piece of the action as well (recent example...):
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/07/wells-fargo-awash-in-scandal-faces-violations-over-car-insurance-refunds.html

My advice - keep it secret, keep it safe, and consider getting the hell out of the FUBAR republic.

Luckily I don't live in the US and I don't face these problems. It surprises me every time I hear what this 'bastion of freedom' actually does to its citizens. Wish you all the best.

The funny. really sad. thing is that most people in the US have no idea what is going on and think they live in the freest place on the earth. Sheeple morons.

and people around the world still buy into the whole notion of american dream. I think Jeffries said it best in this video.
https://youtu.be/xukGZnD-xDE?t=12m31s
I love both these guys!

That was great! Lol it was worth taking time out of my patriots game for. It usually takes a comedian to tell the truth.

[dEBRUYNE]

Any new development or product releases around the corner?

There'll be new binaries for the GUI and CLI in advance of the hardfork.

[dEBRUYNE]

"Polish Bitcoin Exchange BitBay Opens Shop in India; 6 Altcoins Supported" - Monero Included

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/polish-bitcoin-exchange-bitbay-opens-shop-india-6-altcoins-supported/

[LawBC]

How's multisig going ?