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December 21, 2021, 02:24:54 PM
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Need to restore wallet because got XMR balance in it

Lost the phone that's why I try to recover the wallet...

Reason I don't have the full seed is I guess cake didn't show the full seed on screen when i put it on paper so I did not write all the words down and did not count the words and that's why last 5 missing
and yes I have the wallet address

what would be your recommendation ??

You could try to bruteforce the seed and then compare the public keys (you can derive them from the public address). If you know the language of dictionary used and you know at least 20 words of 25 needed for seed, it will take some time to compute the wallet address. It might be a nice programming exercise to cover how Monero works.

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December 21, 2021, 07:22:34 PM
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Here's my take on it.

The monero word list has 1626 words.  So you have 5^1626 combinations.  

1)  Narrow the list by eliminating invalid seeds:  
Write a script to go through all 5^1626 possible seeds and run checksum on each one.  Use whatever computer language you're familiar with.  It's a lot of combinations, but there won't be any crap like API calls to slow down the execution.  It should run pretty fast.

2)  Look for a seed that has a balance:
Write a script that checks the seeds on your shortlist until the script finds one with a balance. This could take a long time.

I would probably use bash for script number 2.


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December 24, 2021, 05:08:36 AM
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THE MONERO MOON IS BACK FOR YOUR READING PLEASURE! Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read. Like, share, and spread the word of Monero as it continues to grow and offer unmatched financial privacy.

https://medium.com/themoneromoon/the-monero-moon-issue-25-fb5f4fd78cb
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December 28, 2021, 01:58:51 PM
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And have you heard that Monero was listed on a new no KYC decentralized exchange? Here it is: https://crp.is/exchange/xmr_usdt The greatest advantage is that users can remain anonymous and the exchange is available from any part of the world, even if Monero is blocked there.
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December 30, 2021, 03:52:46 PM
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Am I the last to notice that Session (the messaging app) is using Monero's seed word scheme?

In other words, the seed words Session gives you?  You can use the same words and make a MyMonero wallet.  Interestingly this is a non standard Monero seed.  The new 14 word seeds in Feather are actually better in a sense as they can produce a 25 word equivalent.

But anyway...  Interesting.

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This is an address I produced with my 13 word Session seed:
86JkeePguyfS3epmVqnjjd6STjcdod1GQFxqbEbNKy4vF9b82RPJFbxgWHQMEx4BMTZjXUJppbSWJBv sbgKd4ojwQoH28WB  (I'll never use that either... don't send it anything lol)

I am wondering if the devs plan to add monero?  It seems very unlikely they would use Monero's seed word code just cuz.  I am going to look at the repo and see if I can figure it out.

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Edit... ahh too bad.  Yeah they are using a cryptonote shitcoin that has a giant pre-mine as well as being POS.  OXEN.

Oh well...  Uninstalling this garbage from my phone.

Hopefully Molly ends up doing it right.  I like that it's a Signal compatible fork.
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December 30, 2021, 11:54:14 PM
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Am I the last to notice that Session (the messaging app) is using Monero's seed word scheme?
Nothing new about this because it is using monero fork and those nodes are used for their app but I am not interested in their coin.
Who knows what happens with this app when there are nobody running their nodes except maybe developers.
I don't think doing this with Monero nodes will work with new fork of Signal.
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December 31, 2021, 01:59:16 AM
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Am I the last to notice that Session (the messaging app) is using Monero's seed word scheme?
Nothing new about this because it is using monero fork and those nodes are used for their app but I am not interested in their coin.
Who knows what happens with this app when there are nobody running their nodes except maybe developers.
I don't think doing this with Monero nodes will work with new fork of Signal.

https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/vd-molly-payments-stage1.html

https://molly.im/
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THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 26) IS OUT NOW! Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read. Like, share, and spread the word of Monero as it continues to grow and offer unmatched financial privacy.

https://medium.com/themoneromoon/the-monero-moon-issue-26-37c1c76bafe8
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https://twitter.com/MoneroCom

https://monero.com/

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Don't quite get the value.  I am not a Cake wallet user anyway, but why not just use the one that has bitcoin in it too?  Is this the Monero Maximalist offering?
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Don't quite get the value.  I am not a Cake wallet user anyway, but why not just use the one that has bitcoin in it too?  Is this the Monero Maximalist offering?

Its the monero.com domain finally being used for a onboard of the moron masses to a easy to use wallet, simple as that.

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Don't quite get the value.  I am not a Cake wallet user anyway, but why not just use the one that has bitcoin in it too?  Is this the Monero Maximalist offering?

Its the monero.com domain finally being used for a onboard of the moron masses to a easy to use wallet, simple as that.

Eeeh.  OK.  That works! Wink  I lost site of the masses for a sec.
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Monero (XMR) is a privacy-focused cryptocurrency that is not based on Bitcoin's code.

Monero aims to be a fungible and untraceable digital medium of exchange. It intrinsically has a higher degree of privacy than Bitcoin or any of its various forks. It was launched on April 18, 2014 (preannounced and no premine/ICO/etc.).

The official core team members are (in no particular order) - Riccardo "fluffypony" Spagni, luigi1111, NoodleDoodle, smooth, tacotime, Franciso "ArticMine" Cabañas, othe

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Features

  • Untraceable payments
  • Unlinkable transactions
  • Blockchain analysis resistance
  • Adaptive parameters

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Monero's functionality is backed up by academic research and cryptographically proven schemes. Much of this research is done by the Monero Research Lab. Since Monero was initially based on the CryptoNote protocol, the CryptoNote whitepaper is also an invaluable reference for validating Monero's unlinkability and untraceability claims.


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  • PoW algorithm: CryptoNight [1]
  • Max supply: Infinite (see note below) [2]
  • Block reward: Smoothly varying [3]
  • Block time: 120 seconds
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[1] CPU + GPU mining (about 1:1 performance for now). Memory-bound by design using AES encryption and several SHA-3 candidates.
[2] Initial number of atomic units is M = 264 - 1. However, once the block reward reaches 0.3 XMR per minute (sometime in 2022) that is treated as the minimum subsidy, which means that Monero's total emission will forever increase by ~157680 XMR annually.
[3] Uses a recurrence relation. Block reward = (M - A) * 2-20 * 10-12, where A = current circulation. Roughly 86% mined in 4 years (see graph).


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CryptoNote is the technology that allows creation of privacy-centric cryptocurrencies. You can visit their website here. The level of anonymity provided by CryptoNote isn't possible with Bitcoin code base by design. Bytecoin (BCN) was the CryptoNote reference implementation, and XMR is based on BCN's code.

Two of the main features of CryptoNote are ring signatures that mask sender identities by mixing and one-time keys that make transactions unlinkable. Their combined effect gives a high degree of anonymity without any extra effort on the part of the user.

Unlike Bitcoin, your funds are not held in the address you give out to others. Instead, every time you receive a payment it goes to an unlinkable address generated with random numbers. When you decide to spend the funds in that one-time address, the amount will be broken down and the components will be indistinguishable from identical outputs in the blockchain.

For example if 556.44 XMR are sent, the protocol will break it down into 500 + 50 + 6 + 0.4 + 0.04 and a ring signature will be performed with other 500's, 50's, 6's, 0.4's, and 0.04's in the blockchain. Unlike the "CoinJoin" mixing method, CryptoNote mixes outputs not transactions. This means no other senders need to be participating with you at the same time or with the same amounts. Any arbitrary amount sent at any time can always be rendered fundamentally indistinguishable (a mathematical proof is given in the white paper).

The degree of anonymity is also a choice rather than decided by the protocol: do you want to be hidden as one among five or one among fifty? The size of the signature grows linearly as O(n+1) with the ambiguity so greater anonymity is paid for with higher fees to miners.

Ring signatures are explained below. Reproduced from CryptoNote:

A normal signature looks like this. There's only one participant, which allows one-to-one mapping.

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A ring signature obscures identities because it only proves that a signer belongs to a group.

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This allows a high level of anonymity in cryptocurrency transactions. You can think of it as decentralized and trustless mixing.

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How does this compare to other anonymous solutions?
Ring signatures originate from the work of Rivest et al. in 2001 and the implementation in CryptoNote relies in particular on Fujisaki and Suzuki's work on traceable ring signatures. There are two other anonymity implementations currently available or in development. One is ZeroCoin/ZeroCash's use of zero-knowledge proofs. The others are based on gmaxwell's CoinJoin idea (such as mixing services for Bitcoin or the altcoin Darkcoin).

1. Comparison with ZeroCoin and ZKP-based approaches:
You can read about ZeroCoin and zero-knowledge proofs (ZKP) here. The ZK environment allows an anonymity set that includes everyone in the network because the validity of an output can be proven without knowing the corresponding public key until it is spent. The largest risk is that this is recent research-level cryptography that hasn't been subjected to years of cryptanalysis, so exploits may emerge down the road. Ring signatures are much simpler and more mature, with many peer-reviewed papers published over more than a decade.

Other issues with ZKP include the RSA private key used to initiate the accumulator, which must be trusted to be destroyed by the generating party. It also obscures the entire economy, not just sender/receiver identities. If the ZK system is compromised, then an attacker can continuously spend coins that don't exist using false proofs. This damage is hidden from everybody due to total blinding and consequently at any given time it's not possible to know if the network has already been compromised. There is a tradeoff between these inherent risks and the maximal anonymity set provided by ZKP. CryptoNote aims for a different balance through the dual layers of privacy provided by one-time keys and ring signatures.

2. Comparison with CoinJoin-based approaches:
XMR is more qualitatively similar to mixing implementations like CoinJoin. The differences arise in the departure from the Bitcoin protocol, which allows XMR to use new cryptography to provide decentralized and trustless mixing of superior quality. The critical problem with mixing services is the need to trust the operators. As an example, blockchain.info's mixer gives the following disclaimer: "However if the server was compromised or under subpoena it could be force to keep logs. If this were to happen although you haven't gained any privacy you haven't lost any either."

The CoinJoin-inspired Darkcoin performs mixing with selected "masternodes" since it still uses ordinary signatures that can be mapped one-to-one. The motivation is that a randomly selected node is less likely than a single service to exhibit bad faith (such as keeping logs) . In practice, a few VPS companies host the vast majority of nodes and this approach relies on the integrity and good behavior of these nodes. XMR's more fundamental cryptographic approach doesn't have these vulnerabilities and the quality of anonymity is much higher.

XMR's ring signatures are also far more secure and convenient than CoinJoin because they mix outputs not transactions. This means a transaction doesn't involve waiting around for other senders to mix with. Nor is a user restricted to mixing only if others are sending the same amount. Arbitrary amounts can be sent at any time without anyone else's participation. This feature makes a timing analysis of the blockchain useless.

Overview of a transaction
Bob decides to spend an output, which was sent to the one-time public key. He needs Extra (1), TxOutNumber (2), and his Account private key (3) to recover his one-time private key (4).

When sending a transaction to Carol, Bob generates its Extra value by random (5). He uses Extra (6), TxOutNumber (7) and Carol's Account public key (8) to get her Output public key (9).

In the input Bob hides the link to his output among the foreign keys (10). To prevent double-spending he also packs the Key image, derived from his One-time private key (11).

Finally, Bob signs the transaction, using his One-time private key (12), all the public keys (13) and Key Image (14). He appends the resulting Ring Signature to the end of the transaction (15).

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January 14, 2022, 02:49:59 AM
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MONERO MOON ISSUE 27 is out now!!!!

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Hey guys, I don't understand what is the problem?? a couple of months ago, the graphical monero wallet daemon stopped working, now when I install a new version of the wallet, the daemon still does not start. Wallet Featcher is working properly
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January 16, 2022, 05:07:07 AM
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Anyone else ever think about the fact that after everyone gets over "NFTs"? they will be both well inoculated against scams AND understanding the definition of a word (fungible) that took us a long time to really understand.

Basically the universe has nudged EVERYONE towards Monero.
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IMHO, NFTs are just another hype that comes and goes. People do all kinds of things that are not understandable, all the time.
Can you please elaborate on how exactly the current hype nudges people towards Monero, and not some other crypto or technology?

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IMHO, NFTs are just another hype that comes and goes. People do all kinds of things that are not understandable, all the time.
Can you please elaborate on how exactly the current hype nudges people towards Monero, and not some other crypto or technology?

At lease SOME people will consider what "fungibility" is because of this. 

The whole way NFTs work is we are creating something that is identifyably unique.  This bored ape is provably different than THAT retarded frog.  And only one person can own either one.

Non-fungibility in a nutshell is the idea that each unit is unique and discernibly different than the other.  Then, of course, humans begin to assign values to each of these unique units.  And some will be worth more than others because of the magic of markets.

Non-Fungible money does not work well.  And as a generic store of value there are great arguments to be made for both something like an NFT (think rare art), or like an ounce of silver, with simply the mark of the company that cast the bar or round.  In the latter case the fact it is from "Sunshine Mining" does not make the silver more valuable really, but generally trustworthy in that we know that mint has a history of being fair.  An ounce of silver is MOSTLY fungible.  We might assign a premium to one mint or another, and of course we can go all the over to non fungibility with RARE coins.

NFTs are more like collectible art.  They are basically the mathematically abstracted version of that.  A computer science and math based simulation of a collectable thing... art, a watch, a car... whatever.  Do not get lost for now in arguing whether or not this really has any meaning or value.

Bitcoin is sort of like Gold or Silver, I think.  Most of the value of a satoshi is based on the same minimum structure that all others share.  But there are circumstances where Bitcoins fungibility can be challenged, similar to a minted silver round.  If I could have 1 of the 50 bitcoin mined in Block 2, I would think I should be able to sell THAT BTC for WAY MORE than 43k.  In fact I could imagine someone paying MILLIONS to own that.  Likewise Bitcoin directly associated with a crime might be considered worth less.

Let's say we take that thought experiment about the Block 2 coin a ltitle farther.  Let's say I actually discovered Satoshi!  And he agreed with me to sell me exactly ONE of the 50 BTC sitting in block 2's coinbase.  And futher lets assume that I am the only one who knows who Satoshi is, and no one else did.  Well, after we did our deal, then Satoshi would sign a transaction with the private key corresponding with the coinbase address of block two and send me that 1 BTC I had bought from him.

What would happen?  Yes.  The entire Bitcoin market would almost immediately crash!  Why?  because it would be public knowledge that the owner of the private keys to block 2 just moved one of the coins.  And was can also assume THAT person owns at least hundreds of thousands of Bitcoin, and just showed the world he was in a selling mood.

All because Bitcoins, are to a certain extent, non funfgible.

Monero on the other hand?  Well  I might just own one of the first Monero ever mined.  But I do not know, and neither does anyone else without a large coordinated effort with various view keys.  Practically impossible. 

All because Monero has this property that is just about unique to only it.  (and yes it's clones etc... but that is another discussion as to why XMR wins that battle too).

NFTs have opened peoples eyes to fungibility.  Right now they are all distracted with pretending one retarded frog is worth more than another.

But eventually many of them will begin to understand the amazing value of a digital asset that CANNOT be distinguished from equal units of it's kind.

Monero arguably takes digital fungibility to the mathematical extreme.  Unlike Bitcoin it pretty much mathematically PERFECTS the aspect of fungibility.  And THIS property actually has GREAT VALUE. Eventually some folks will stop being interested in apes and start being interested in something that is fully fungible.

That is what I was saying...  the long version. Wink
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I keep getting a core dump error
Code:
a@galliumos:~/monero-x86_64-linux-gnu-v0.17.3.0$ ./monerod --prune-blockchain
2022-01-19 22:25:45.835 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.3.0-release)
2022-01-19 22:25:45.835 I Initializing cryptonote protocol...
2022-01-19 22:25:45.835 I Cryptonote protocol initialized OK
2022-01-19 22:25:45.838 I Initializing core...
2022-01-19 22:25:45.839 I Loading blockchain from folder /home/a/.bitmonero/lmdb ...
Bus error (core dumped)
a@galliumos:~/monero-x86_64-linux-gnu-v0.17.3.0$
The error persists even after deleting and reinstalling monerod.
Thought I'd try the solution shown here
https://blog.opstree.com/2019/04/02/resolving-segmentation-fault-core-dumped-in-ubuntu/
but in step 1 it shows this in a code box:
Code:
sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock and restart your system h.cdccdc
which obviously isn't correct.  The last bit about restarting isn't part of the command.  And what am I supposed to do with "h.cdccdc"  
If I just jump in and run these commands will it help or is this going to bollix up the system even more than it is now?


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January 20, 2022, 07:09:39 AM
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THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 28) IS OUT NOW! Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read. Like, share, and spread the word of Monero as it continues to grow and offer unmatched financial privacy.

https://medium.com/themoneromoon/the-monero-moon-issue-28-307de4b1db15
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