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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4655258 times)
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April 08, 2020, 03:15:43 AM
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It was just RingCT without bulletproofs were humongous, like 14 kB for regular tx or something, and I think that may have been during kind of alphabay insanity days, so maybe significant portion of that 26 GB is from them, but that is a lot more analysis than I'm willing to provide  Smiley
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April 08, 2020, 03:23:38 AM
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It was just RingCT without bulletproofs were humongous, like 14 kB for regular tx or something, and I think that may have been during kind of alphabay insanity days, so maybe significant portion of that 26 GB is from them, but that is a lot more analysis than I'm willing to provide  Smiley

Well as you said average is about 2k so all he has to do is some simple arithmetic with that number to make an educated guess.

Transactions are about 3% of BTC right now I think. I'm not sure if they track linearly or not but that would be interesting graph to see.

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April 08, 2020, 07:56:12 PM
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Hi,
We have added Monero on our services.
Check out for free which Monero source code is probably based on. Check out our code analysis: https://coincode.sh/c/xmr/


Just ask and we will tell what code Monero is based on. I think you have made the mistake of thinking this is some shitcoin that has a bunch of tards that don't do their due diligence.


Did you know that most of the replies to the Monero BitcoinTalk thread are Legendary Members? Check out our thread analysis: https://cointhread.sh/c/xmr/
Regards,

Did you know that if you had extrapolated what I posted above from this then you would have never got a reply from me?

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April 11, 2020, 03:00:00 AM
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It was just RingCT without bulletproofs were humongous, like 14 kB for regular tx or something, and I think that may have been during kind of alphabay insanity days, so maybe significant portion of that 26 GB is from them, but that is a lot more analysis than I'm willing to provide  Smiley

Well as you said average is about 2k so all he has to do is some simple arithmetic with that number to make an educated guess.

Transactions are about 3% of BTC right now I think. I'm not sure if they track linearly or not but that would be interesting graph to see.

The ratio with BTC has been increasing significantly lately.

https://twitter.com/binaryFate/status/1248238974012985344
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April 11, 2020, 07:47:43 AM
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Weird how the price has felt so suppressed.

I have seen this rising volume chart rising higher up.


I tried to overlay it on the price chart from January, but they didnt seem to correlate.


i dont like "extrapolate" lets see the actual number.



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April 11, 2020, 02:26:27 PM
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Check out the Monero movie - Monero Means Money: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/fyin5n/film_premiere_monero_means_money_cryptocurrency/

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April 11, 2020, 09:36:04 PM
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You guys that are trying to expand the Monero eco system need to get it on this.

https://decrypt.co/25225/venezuelans-have-new-way-send-crypto-without-internet

I'm quite surprised we are not on this list right now.

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April 12, 2020, 08:23:11 AM
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That official site seems to be down for any links to it

https://www.communityworkgroup.org/monero-means-money/



here, these guys are fun  Smiley

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12109930/
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April 12, 2020, 10:43:39 AM
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Try without the trailing slash:
https://www.communityworkgroup.org/monero-means-money

I have no idea what is wrong with their nginx/Apache setup
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April 13, 2020, 06:47:33 AM
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Who are the main competitors to Monero? I mean technology wise. Is there another crypto with a better privacy technology?
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April 13, 2020, 04:00:32 PM
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Who are the main competitors to Monero? I mean technology wise. Is there another crypto with a better privacy technology?

Bitcoin transacted via the Lightning Network, using onion-routed transactions and other privacy features.  (All done over Tor for network-layer privacy, of course—of course, all on your own node and not with a custodial wallet.)  Or other advanced Bitcoin privacy techniques; but I will leave it at Lightning.

Transacting off-chain is strictly superior to using cryptographic techniques to hide information recorded in an append-only public ledger.  What is never on the blockchain doesn’t need to be hidden there!  This also means that no metadata is recorded on the blockchain—not even the fact that a transaction occurred around a certain time.

There is one other privacy coin with which I have substantial experience; it is the one considered to be XMR’s main competitor.  Its privacy is theoretically superior to XMR, with a transaction unlinkability set much larger than any mixin; but it has other problems that have made me miserable with it in practice.  Although I still have a small amount (as I also have some XMR), I don’t even want to name it here on the XMR thread.  Anyway, I am moving toward a 100% all-Bitcoin privacy setup, for my own part.

I am aware of some recent developments with coins that use MimbleWimble, but have not investigated those due to, again, refocusing on Bitcoin privacy.  I don’t know if they are any good.

Many other so-called “privacy coins” are SCAMS:  DASH, DeepOnion, and Verge, for some examples that I have investigated.  SCAMS.  AVOID the shitcoins with slick marketing, that do not actually protect your privacy.  “Privacy” is a big buzzword; and you should only trust privacy claims that have been thoroughly peer-reviewed by experts.

Anyway, if you need to ask this question, then you should probably just stick with XMR (or get on Lightning with Bitcoin...).  Monero has good cryptography.  Insofar as I can see, its principal weakness is the size of the unlinkability set for each transaction.  As a different factor that is also important, I note that it is the only coin that I know of which has truly decentralized, censorship-resistant mining, on commodity hardware which anybody can buy without exposing an interest in cryptocurrency.  (The reason why I myself do not do Bitcoin mining:  I can’t buy an ASIC with strong anonymity, and I can’t just use ordinary CPUs.)  If there were one altcoin feature that I could steal for Bitcoin, it would probably be RandomX, or some further development thereof.  (Yes, Bitcoin mining people, I am aware of all the reasons why that will not happen.)

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April 13, 2020, 08:46:57 PM
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Who are the main competitors to Monero? I mean technology wise. Is there another crypto with a better privacy technology?

There are none, bitcoins solutions are all second layer and therefore inherently flawed.

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April 15, 2020, 04:17:03 PM
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https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/6451

Bulletproofs: verification speedup #6451
SarangNoether

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Speeds up Bulletproof verification by eliminating unnecessary point compression and decompression when performing multiply-by-8 operations on group elements to ensure proper subgroup membership.

Updates performance and unit tests.

Example speedups on test machine:

- single 1-output proof: 5.2% speedup
- single 2-output proof: 2.9% speedup
- 4-batch of 2-output proofs: 10.6% speedup
- 64-batch of 2-output proofs: 25.7% speedup

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- Pay any Bitcoin address privately with a little help of Monero.
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April 18, 2020, 05:17:06 AM
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6 Years old and it seems like only yesterday we didn't have a GUI wallet. Smiley

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April 20, 2020, 10:45:12 AM
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This probably isn't a problem, but thought I'd ask anyway.  I'm curious what makes monerod print this error.  I am using --prune-blockchain
Code:
2020-04-20 08:56:45.483 W [51.77.152.156:28414 INC]  peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 2063919 instead of 12) - we may
be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed
2020-04-20 09:04:57.918 I Last scheduled hard fork time suggests a daemon update will be released within the next couple months.
2020-04-20 09:09:43.044 W [51.77.152.156:29878 INC]  peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 2063919 instead of 12) - we may
be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed
and it continued printing that error over and over again.
I exited the daemon and started it again, no error this time.
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$ monerod --version
Monero 'Carbon Chamaeleon' (v0.15.0.1-release)
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April 20, 2020, 11:33:29 AM
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6 Years old and it seems like only yesterday we didn't have a GUI wallet. Smiley
It does not a matter for technical guys who seriously care about privacy. They do know how to do this without GUI wallet. For them, it has never been a big problem. For amateurs, I bet that how many of them seriously care about privacy. In contrast, most of them use Monero or invest in Monero as they see chances to get profits or see Monero investment or usages as a hot trend. They are FOMO invested or used Monero while they don't care to learn and know about the technique behind Monero.

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April 20, 2020, 02:46:46 PM
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This probably isn't a problem, but thought I'd ask anyway.  I'm curious what makes monerod print this error.  I am using --prune-blockchain
Code:
2020-04-20 08:56:45.483 W [51.77.152.156:28414 INC]  peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 2063919 instead of 12) - we may
be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed
2020-04-20 09:04:57.918 I Last scheduled hard fork time suggests a daemon update will be released within the next couple months.
2020-04-20 09:09:43.044 W [51.77.152.156:29878 INC]  peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 2063919 instead of 12) - we may
be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed
and it continued printing that error over and over again.
I exited the daemon and started it again, no error this time.
I am running
Code:
$ monerod --version
Monero 'Carbon Chamaeleon' (v0.15.0.1-release)

Why don't you upgrade to 15.0.5  Roll Eyes

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April 20, 2020, 05:08:38 PM
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This probably isn't a problem, but thought I'd ask anyway.  I'm curious what makes monerod print this error.  I am using --prune-blockchain
Code:
2020-04-20 08:56:45.483 W [51.77.152.156:28414 INC]  peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 2063919 instead of 12) - we may
be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed
2020-04-20 09:04:57.918 I Last scheduled hard fork time suggests a daemon update will be released within the next couple months.
2020-04-20 09:09:43.044 W [51.77.152.156:29878 INC]  peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 2063919 instead of 12) - we may
be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed
and it continued printing that error over and over again.
I exited the daemon and started it again, no error this time.
I am running
Code:
$ monerod --version
Monero 'Carbon Chamaeleon' (v0.15.0.1-release)

You can safely ignore the message as long as you are running one of the v0.15 release versions (which you are).

Privacy matters, use Monero - A true untraceable cryptocurrency
Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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April 20, 2020, 09:27:50 PM
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Why don't you upgrade to 15.0.5  Roll Eyes
Didn't know there was a new version!  Thanks for telling me, upgraded and running 15.0.5 now.
I guess it wasn't publicized because it's not a hard fork?
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Why don't you upgrade to 15.0.5  Roll Eyes
Didn't know there was a new version!  Thanks for telling me, upgraded and running 15.0.5 now.
I guess it wasn't publicized because it's not a hard fork?

You are welcome  Grin
Just drop by on the official homepage ones a week and check for updates, respective to the githubrepo, that's always a good idea  Wink

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