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December 28, 2014, 06:37:15 PM
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Jehst, try sending again but with a lower mixin count.


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December 28, 2014, 06:40:06 PM
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Jehst, try sending again but with a lower mixin count.



I tried the minimum mixin on mymonero (1). I may have to send it from the client to do mixin 0

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December 28, 2014, 06:54:07 PM
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Poloniex used to have some issues with withdraws failing, large ones in particular. This was probably due to many smaller deposits causing large number of inputs for these transactions. They would be too big and fail. Instead of combining small inputs themselves (and thus take the fee hit) it seems they have changed their approach to simply send small inputs directly to the customers withdraw address. This way they are moving the burden of small transactions on to their customers and avoid failed withdraws (or having to pay high fees to combine inputs).

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December 28, 2014, 06:59:15 PM
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Poloniex used to have some issues with withdraws failing, large ones in particular. This was probably due to many smaller deposits causing large number of inputs for these transactions. They would be too big and fail. Instead of combining small inputs themselves (and thus take the fee hit) it seems they have changed their approach to simply send small inputs directly to the customers withdraw address. This way they are moving the burden of small transactions on to their customers and avoid failed withdraws (or having to pay high fees to combine inputs).

Yes, that is exactly what's happened. Poloniex also didn't bother using mixin 1 (they used 0) and made me wait about 24 hours before processing my  XMR withdrawal. I also had to wait several hours for my second withdrawal. I'm not so happy with Poloniex's service. Now I've got a mess on my hands. Tons of ~30 XMR inputs and now I can't move them easily.

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December 28, 2014, 07:43:36 PM
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You can move them easily. just in your case in more then 1 transaction.
If you just keep them in your wallet for 2 years, price will increase that much that you will not even think of moving all in one go.  Grin
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December 28, 2014, 07:56:28 PM
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Poloniex used to have some issues with withdraws failing, large ones in particular. This was probably due to many smaller deposits causing large number of inputs for these transactions. They would be too big and fail. Instead of combining small inputs themselves (and thus take the fee hit) it seems they have changed their approach to simply send small inputs directly to the customers withdraw address. This way they are moving the burden of small transactions on to their customers and avoid failed withdraws (or having to pay high fees to combine inputs).

Yes, that is exactly what's happened. Poloniex also didn't bother using mixin 1 (they used 0) and made me wait about 24 hours before processing my  XMR withdrawal. I also had to wait several hours for my second withdrawal. I'm not so happy with Poloniex's service. Now I've got a mess on my hands. Tons of ~30 XMR inputs and now I can't move them easily.

Poloniex has always used mix 0. The workaround I have used to make it untraceable is to withdraw to one wallet (I call it from-poloniex), then I send that on to another wallet (with a higher mix).

This will also allow you consolidate the output amounts. As TheKoziTwo explained, you will incur some fees doing this, but it is mostly the same fees you would have incurred spending the small outputs later (unless you did only tiny spends). Once consolidated, spending will become very inexpensive (sometimes 0.01 even with mixing).

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December 28, 2014, 08:02:45 PM
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You can move them easily. just in your case in more then 1 transaction.
If you just keep them in your wallet for 2 years, price will increase that much that you will not even think of moving all in one go.  Grin

I can't even move 15% in one go. That's how mucked up it is.

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December 28, 2014, 08:03:52 PM
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You can move them easily. just in your case in more then 1 transaction.
If you just keep them in your wallet for 2 years, price will increase that much that you will not even think of moving all in one go.  Grin

I can't even move 15% in one go. That's how mucked up it is.

That is strange. Did you do a bunch of separate polo withdraws or just one?
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December 28, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
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You can move them easily. just in your case in more then 1 transaction.
If you just keep them in your wallet for 2 years, price will increase that much that you will not even think of moving all in one go.  Grin

I can't even move 15% in one go. That's how mucked up it is.

That is strange. Did you do a bunch of separate polo withdraws or just one?


One withdrawal got sent to me in 97 transactions. Tristan D'Agosta handled it himself. Thanks, bud.

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December 28, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
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sent to me in 97 transactions.

Okay, that's a new one.
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You can move them easily. just in your case in more then 1 transaction.
If you just keep them in your wallet for 2 years, price will increase that much that you will not even think of moving all in one go.  Grin

My aim is not to dump. Actually, my aim is to help create real liquidity for XMR. As you may have noticed, you can't buy or sell more than a few BTC worth of XMR without moving the price 10%. I plan to change that by putting up more bids and asks closer to the spot price. That's why I need to move my coins.

EDIT: I have cooled down now. Poloniex can have another chance.

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December 28, 2014, 08:27:10 PM
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The price @poloniex went bananas! Green dildos everywhere! Smiley

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December 28, 2014, 09:19:28 PM
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On Linux I'm getting:
Can't load blockchain storage from file, generating genesis block.
When starting the daemon, and it never seems to finish or use any resources.
I deleted everything but my wallet and keys from the folder I keep the daemon and wallet in, nothing in .bitmonero

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December 28, 2014, 09:27:01 PM
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On Linux I'm getting:
Can't load blockchain storage from file, generating genesis block.
When starting the daemon, and it never seems to finish or use any resources.
I deleted everything but my wallet and keys from the folder I keep the daemon and wallet in, nothing in .bitmonero

If there is nothing in .bitmonero then you don't have a local blockchain (blockchain.bin), and you also don't have a list of peer nodes (p2pstate.bin).

Something seems to be wrong with the build in seeds, so you need to specify a seed node on the command line. You'll only need to do this once, then you will have a p2pstate.bin file that will get you connected.

Try

bitmonerod --seed-node 182.92.104.160:18080
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bitmonerod --seed-node 74.192.120.8:18080

These are not official seed nodes, just currently active nodes that appear stable.

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December 28, 2014, 11:45:08 PM
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Untraceable Crypto poll:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=898563.0

Plz Vote for Monero at the poll linked to above, if you have yet to do so.

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December 29, 2014, 12:41:22 AM
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XMR price is rising a lot over night,what's happend?  Huh

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December 29, 2014, 12:48:36 AM
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Poloniex used to have some issues with withdraws failing, large ones in particular. This was probably due to many smaller deposits causing large number of inputs for these transactions. They would be too big and fail. Instead of combining small inputs themselves (and thus take the fee hit) it seems they have changed their approach to simply send small inputs directly to the customers withdraw address. This way they are moving the burden of small transactions on to their customers and avoid failed withdraws (or having to pay high fees to combine inputs).

Yes, that is exactly what's happened. Poloniex also didn't bother using mixin 1 (they used 0) and made me wait about 24 hours before processing my  XMR withdrawal. I also had to wait several hours for my second withdrawal. I'm not so happy with Poloniex's service. Now I've got a mess on my hands. Tons of ~30 XMR inputs and now I can't move them easily.

Poloniex has always used mix 0. The workaround I have used to make it untraceable is to withdraw to one wallet (I call it from-poloniex), then I send that on to another wallet (with a higher mix).

This will also allow you consolidate the output amounts. As TheKoziTwo explained, you will incur some fees doing this, but it is mostly the same fees you would have incurred spending the small outputs later (unless you did only tiny spends). Once consolidated, spending will become very inexpensive (sometimes 0.01 even with mixing).



I just checked my withdrawal of a few weeks ago from Poloniex and they used a mixin of 1.  The tx id shows a larger amount than I received so I guess there were others included in the tx.  The tx was composed of 90 inputs and 8 outputs.  Four of the outputs were mine, one for each place value.  Is this the situation that will cause problems transferring from my wallet?


How important is it to transfer the coins received from Polo and what is a proper mixin #?  I know these 2 questions were covered a while ago but it is not clear to me now.
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December 29, 2014, 12:50:35 AM
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This coin is super awesome, hope its always rising!!
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December 29, 2014, 02:27:41 AM
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You can move them easily. just in your case in more then 1 transaction.
If you just keep them in your wallet for 2 years, price will increase that much that you will not even think of moving all in one go.  Grin

My aim is not to dump. Actually, my aim is to help create real liquidity for XMR. As you may have noticed, you can't buy or sell more than a few BTC worth of XMR without moving the price 10%. I plan to change that by putting up more bids and asks closer to the spot price. That's why I need to move my coins.

EDIT: I have cooled down now. Poloniex can have another chance.

I would be wiling to add liquidity to Poloniex, how can I help?
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December 29, 2014, 02:32:38 AM
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How do I get my daily poloniex withdraw limit increased?

I don't have enough on Poloniex right now to get that message pop up, but I've seen it before. Who do I email?
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