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July 24, 2014, 03:23:04 PM Last edit: July 24, 2014, 04:02:29 PM by NSA360 |
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This is why CRYPT will be HUGE!!![6/8/14, 2:10:12 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): hi Ahmad [6/8/14, 2:10:16 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): ok, think this: [6/8/14, 2:10:23 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): how hard do you think it is to spoof an sms? [6/8/14, 2:10:29 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): the origin number I mean [6/8/14, 2:10:38 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): just sit and watch what will happen after a while [6/8/14, 2:10:54 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): do you remember the fiasco with voicemail messages being heard by other people? [6/8/14, 2:11:02 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): just because it was very easy to change their callerID? [6/8/14, 2:11:08 PM] gudcrypt: Good point costas [6/8/14, 2:11:10 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): imagine that for a second [6/8/14, 2:11:16 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): ok [6/8/14, 2:11:16 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): email? that's even worse [6/8/14, 2:11:32 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): let me give you an example [6/8/14, 2:11:43 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): wouldn't it be very cool if we didn't need to drive our cars? [6/8/14, 2:11:49 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): have computers do that for us? [6/8/14, 2:11:54 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): the technology for that already exists [6/8/14, 2:12:01 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but, computers can't make all the calculations needed for that [6/8/14, 2:12:11 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so, no such product is "yet" created [6/8/14, 2:12:17 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): what I mean is: [6/8/14, 2:12:24 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): don't remove security [6/8/14, 2:12:28 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): for simplicity sake [6/8/14, 2:12:28 PM] Bradley: Yeah... It could be done on a higher level. [6/8/14, 2:12:37 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): it will be a mistake that we will all utterly regret [6/8/14, 2:13:12 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): what can we do to make the address seem easier, at the same time not compromising security ? [6/8/14, 2:13:30 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): there are things to do [6/8/14, 2:13:41 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but, it would make anonymity blow away [6/8/14, 2:13:48 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): for example: we can create a DNS-like system [6/8/14, 2:13:50 PM] Bradley: ^^^ [6/8/14, 2:13:56 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but, would you announce your name and your address? [6/8/14, 2:13:57 PM] Bradley: anon would be gone. [6/8/14, 2:15:25 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): so where are we heading on the next big thing for CRY ? another anon or do you guys have something on the works ? [6/8/14, 2:15:44 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): a safe anon is the plan for now [6/8/14, 2:15:46 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): good points above btw [6/8/14, 2:16:03 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so, we will do it, the recommended way [6/8/14, 2:16:10 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): i mean we can implement for example anon as stage #1, but stage #2 we can do something mind blowing [6/8/14, 2:16:47 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): well, I always said this to all the coins that I "consult" in the tech aspect [6/8/14, 2:17:08 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): if you want extra functionality, put it in 3rd party programs [6/8/14, 2:17:49 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): if we want "mind-blowing" then we should focus on a very good and detailed API [6/8/14, 2:18:02 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): give the API power that no other coin has [6/8/14, 2:18:03 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): what are your thinking on next for CRY ? [6/8/14, 2:18:12 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): which will allow us to create a bunch of applications for it [6/8/14, 2:18:18 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and tie it with other things, but safely [6/8/14, 2:18:27 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): for example an accounting system, can be tied to it [6/8/14, 2:18:39 PM] Moosa: an integrated accounting system for CRY would be very popular for merchants. [6/8/14, 2:18:44 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): yes, that could be one [6/8/14, 2:18:47 PM] Moosa: thats good idea costas [6/8/14, 2:19:00 PM] Moosa: On 6/8/14, at 2:17 PM, Costas (aka mindfox) wrote: > if we want "mind-blowing" then we should focus on a very good and detailed API > give the API power that no other coin has [6/8/14, 2:19:04 PM] Moosa: this i like [6/8/14, 2:19:06 PM] Bradley: Yeah, giving dev's an easy integration point... Would be self advertising. [6/8/14, 2:19:10 PM] Moosa: aye [6/8/14, 2:19:14 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): exactly [6/8/14, 2:19:23 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): make others invest in your coin with more than just btc [6/8/14, 2:19:32 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): what uses for this API ? [6/8/14, 2:19:32 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): if others are interested and create applications for your coin [6/8/14, 2:19:36 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): your coin gets value [6/8/14, 2:19:44 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): lets see some ideas so we can think of putting those in a video [6/8/14, 2:19:51 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): like examples, for real world people [6/8/14, 2:19:52 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): Ahmad, the command-line clients are using the API [6/8/14, 2:19:56 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): exchanges [6/8/14, 2:19:58 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): pools [6/8/14, 2:20:04 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but for basic operations [6/8/14, 2:20:12 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): for example: coin control is not in the api [6/8/14, 2:20:20 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): for another coin, I inserted the ability to not stake [6/8/14, 2:20:29 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so it won't create problems with resources [6/8/14, 2:20:33 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and poloniex loved it [6/8/14, 2:20:37 PM] Moosa: nicee [6/8/14, 2:20:48 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): imagine if you can have coin control used from the command-line client [6/8/14, 2:20:58 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): be able to distinguish every single transaction, the easy way [6/8/14, 2:20:58 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): so like buying and selling ? [6/8/14, 2:21:01 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): or export data [6/8/14, 2:21:33 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): Ahmad, no. Buying and selling is happening in a virtual environment within the limits of each exchange's DB [6/8/14, 2:21:51 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): coins are transferred only with deposits and withdrawals [6/8/14, 2:22:00 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): all exchange actions are just records in a database [6/8/14, 2:22:09 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but, as you said [6/8/14, 2:22:19 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): you can't integrate an ERP system with the wallet [6/8/14, 2:22:25 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): not without creating complex external applications [6/8/14, 2:22:35 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): what if you could do it a bit more easy? [6/8/14, 2:22:50 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): also, what if it allowed you to create addresses that are categorized? [6/8/14, 2:22:57 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): for example, to make merchant's life easier? [6/8/14, 2:23:11 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): people need some organization and categories ..etc [6/8/14, 2:23:25 PM] Moosa: crypt will have merchant incentive if we do that [6/8/14, 2:23:27 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): imagine the following scenario [6/8/14, 2:23:36 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): we create a bit more detailed api, with a lot of power in it [6/8/14, 2:23:43 PM] Moosa: anon + fast and easy power api [6/8/14, 2:23:46 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and then, we release an excel add-on that can communicate with the wallet [6/8/14, 2:23:52 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): just this simple move [6/8/14, 2:24:00 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): so first coin with API ? [6/8/14, 2:24:05 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): there is API [6/8/14, 2:24:13 PM] Moosa: but its weak [6/8/14, 2:24:15 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but with basic functionality [6/8/14, 2:24:17 PM] Moosa: ^^ [6/8/14, 2:24:17 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): yes, exactly [6/8/14, 2:24:31 PM] Moosa: Integrate the first full fledged powerhouse api [6/8/14, 2:24:32 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): for example, when you do a payment through the api [6/8/14, 2:24:33 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): you have no control [6/8/14, 2:24:47 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): is there like a google spreadsheets API that would integrate with it ? [6/8/14, 2:24:53 PM] Moosa: now thats something no other coin has [6/8/14, 2:24:55 PM] Moosa: [6/8/14, 2:25:06 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): well, I wouldn't go for google spreadsheets [6/8/14, 2:25:13 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): unless you want google to be able to control your wallet [6/8/14, 2:25:19 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but it could be done, yes [6/8/14, 2:25:30 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): but another dev can do it right ? if its all API [6/8/14, 2:25:35 PM] Moosa: yea [6/8/14, 2:25:41 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): Ahmad, anything can be done by anyone [6/8/14, 2:25:53 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): even if he's not skilled enough, eventually he would be able to do it [6/8/14, 2:25:55 PM] Moosa: it will easy for them, actually it will incentive it [6/8/14, 2:25:57 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): it's the idea that matters most [6/8/14, 2:26:02 PM] Moosa: if its powerful + easy [6/8/14, 2:26:05 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and how good you "protect" it from flaws [6/8/14, 2:26:11 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): yea but we market the API thing, and make useable apps to start with, then the other cool devs would do the rest [6/8/14, 2:26:32 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): Ahmad, that's how open source projects works I'm afraid [6/8/14, 2:26:32 PM] Moosa: i could make concept wallet in photoshop maybe [6/8/14, 2:26:36 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): so API --> we make some samples --> a great video do demonstrate all that --> bingo we get all devs onboard [6/8/14, 2:26:42 PM] Moosa: nice [6/8/14, 2:26:45 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): you can't really keep a secret, especially in crypto world [6/8/14, 2:26:45 PM] Moosa: ya ahmad [6/8/14, 2:27:41 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): lets work on those mini API samples, so the documentation can be complete, with usable real-world scenarios we can attract more devs [6/8/14, 2:28:23 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): if you reveal it before it's finished, you risk of someone else stealing your idea [6/8/14, 2:28:30 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and you can't prove anything [6/8/14, 2:28:46 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): nothing to be revealed, it stays here between us till we release , how's that ? [6/8/14, 2:28:48 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): [6/8/14, 2:29:01 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): let's prioritize things Ahmad though [6/8/14, 2:29:11 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I mean, I can't working in 2 different projects of that magnitude [6/8/14, 2:29:28 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): well, I could, but the results would take longer and we risk of perhaps losing focus? [6/8/14, 2:29:45 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): sorry if I sound too careful, but I saw it happening many times with my company [6/8/14, 2:30:01 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): when they tried to put in R&D (my dept) a lot more projects than it could handle [6/8/14, 2:30:07 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): according to QA always, right? [6/8/14, 2:30:43 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): yea i got what u mean [6/8/14, 2:30:52 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): so whats your suggested next steps ? [6/8/14, 2:34:09 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I'm trying to think [6/8/14, 2:35:01 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I'll be honest here [6/8/14, 2:35:06 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): ok,, [6/8/14, 2:35:13 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): my strong point is coding and community support [6/8/14, 2:35:24 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): community means mostly long term projects [6/8/14, 2:35:48 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so, I don't know what I can do to create the so called "hype" [6/8/14, 2:35:53 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): all I can do, is lay down ideas [6/8/14, 2:36:22 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): so for example API integration, can u do that ? [6/8/14, 2:36:48 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): yes, I can do it. otherwise I wouldn't propose it [6/8/14, 2:37:01 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I am not the one who is suggesting what others could do [6/8/14, 2:37:07 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): only if I'm asked to [6/8/14, 2:37:15 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but usually, when I have ideas, I also have some concept that goes with them [6/8/14, 2:37:21 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): cool [6/8/14, 2:37:47 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but, I would need a plain user's perspective [6/8/14, 2:38:02 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): lets think of scenarios for real world API usage [6/8/14, 2:38:08 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): and make some examples [6/8/14, 2:38:10 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): for example: what is it that a plain user would love to see, regarding simplicity, usability and information gathering? [6/8/14, 2:38:16 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): something easy that we can do [6/8/14, 2:38:21 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): like lay down the basics [6/8/14, 2:38:21 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): Ahmad, you got me on that [6/8/14, 2:38:28 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): hehe [6/8/14, 2:38:34 PM] Moosa: integration into social media FB twitter ect.. [6/8/14, 2:40:41 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I think it uses a central processing server for sms [6/8/14, 2:41:56 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): i gotta think of some stuff and see if i can post some shortly [6/8/14, 2:41:59 PM] Moosa: LOL [6/8/14, 2:41:59 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): brb [6/8/14, 2:42:04 PM] Moosa: k ahmad [6/8/14, 2:42:33 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): what can the API provide exactly ? like raw info of what ? [6/8/14, 2:42:46 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): you send a command and you get a result [6/8/14, 2:42:59 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): for now, you can check transactions (by id), wallet addresses [6/8/14, 2:43:04 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): total amounts [6/8/14, 2:43:07 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): send payments [6/8/14, 2:43:23 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): send and receive payments possible right ? [6/8/14, 2:43:27 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): yes of course [6/8/14, 2:43:32 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): well, not receive [6/8/14, 2:43:33 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): send [6/8/14, 2:43:43 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): you can't control the receival of a payment [6/8/14, 2:43:45 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): so for example, can a firefox or chrome add-on be made to send payments easily ? [6/8/14, 2:43:53 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): why not recieve ? [6/8/14, 2:44:15 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): if you ask to receive a payment, who would grant your wish? [6/8/14, 2:44:42 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): but if someone sends the other guys recieves ? no ? _ [6/8/14, 2:44:43 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): [6/8/14, 2:44:46 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): yes [6/8/14, 2:44:52 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but wallet doesn't have to be open for that [6/8/14, 2:44:57 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): it is stored in the blockchain [6/8/14, 2:45:06 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): ok did someone do a chrome or firefox wallet before ? [6/8/14, 2:45:07 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so when you open your wallet, you see that it happened [6/8/14, 2:45:35 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I think there were web wallets that used browser localstorage [6/8/14, 2:45:44 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but it is very dangerous [6/8/14, 2:46:16 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): aha yea [6/8/14, 3:46:16 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): I'm proposing an idea for API , is verified addresses, so basically anyone can have the option to verify thier address and link it to his email, making "paypal" type of transactions possible [6/8/14, 3:46:31 PM] Moosa: hello ahmad [6/8/14, 3:46:35 PM] Moosa: ok [6/8/14, 3:46:36 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Hey moosa [6/8/14, 3:46:55 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): I bought the email discussion before above [6/8/14, 3:47:20 PM] Moosa: i see [6/8/14, 3:48:07 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): API is a big thing [6/8/14, 3:48:12 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Once we do that [6/8/14, 3:48:14 PM] Moosa: yeah it could be very popular [6/8/14, 3:48:19 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): We do some cool examples ourselves [6/8/14, 3:48:28 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): And while the other devs start making tools [6/8/14, 3:48:32 PM] Moosa: yeah [6/8/14, 3:49:16 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): First API draft, then we create demos [6/8/14, 3:49:25 PM] Moosa: cool [6/8/14, 3:49:39 PM] Moosa: What 'app' do we plan to showcase with the api [6/8/14, 3:49:44 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): One of the demos could be spreadsheet linking like mindfox mentioned [6/8/14, 3:49:45 PM] Moosa: our flagship [6/8/14, 3:49:49 PM] Moosa: i see [6/8/14, 3:49:54 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Maybe think of something better [6/8/14, 3:50:06 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): But i feel email verification could eork [6/8/14, 3:50:09 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): *work [6/8/14, 3:50:11 PM] Moosa: So we can advertise us a being versatile for devs and promote merchants also ? [6/8/14, 3:50:33 PM] Moosa: I think step 1 from here [6/8/14, 3:50:35 PM] Moosa: today is [6/8/14, 3:50:40 PM] Moosa: to have apresentable plan [6/8/14, 3:50:43 PM] Moosa: to show [6/8/14, 3:50:51 PM] Moosa: that way we have it for our reference [6/8/14, 3:50:57 PM] Moosa: and for people coming to us [6/8/14, 3:52:30 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Aha gotcha [6/8/14, 3:52:46 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): both projects are quite large [6/8/14, 3:52:54 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Yea I can imagine [6/8/14, 3:52:57 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): one (anon) is about implementing something very very secure as it should [6/8/14, 3:53:53 PM] Moosa: i agree [6/8/14, 3:53:57 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so, it's not about fairness, it's about productivity [6/8/14, 3:54:04 PM] Moosa: yeah exactly [6/8/14, 3:54:10 PM] Moosa: as productive as possible [6/8/14, 3:54:22 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I believe I'm a professional, so I have no emotional ties [6/8/14, 3:54:36 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Costas what's the ETA on anon project ? [6/8/14, 3:54:56 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): Ahmad, the goal is to have a workable test version by the end of june [6/8/14, 3:55:01 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but that eta is not public [6/8/14, 3:55:16 PM] Moosa: I say ahmad me and your draft something like this [6/8/14, 3:55:50 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): as you know, if the eta is not met for any reason, people will attack the project, without thinking about anything else than how to spread fud [6/8/14, 3:56:04 PM] Moosa: ^ [6/8/14, 3:56:34 PM] Moosa: What the others should worry about is the API project [6/8/14, 4:03:08 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Yea [6/8/14, 4:03:38 PM] Moosa: Costas [6/8/14, 4:03:42 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): yes? [6/8/14, 4:04:01 PM] Moosa: on a scale of 1 to 10 the deployment of the API system we plan to incorporate what do u think it is? [6/8/14, 4:04:08 PM] Moosa: in difficulty [6/8/14, 4:04:21 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): it all depends on the functionality we want to inject [6/8/14, 4:04:53 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): for example: [6/8/14, 4:04:57 PM] Moosa: ok [6/8/14, 4:05:03 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): return a list of the top10 transactions (in amount of coins) [6/8/14, 4:05:24 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): or [6/8/14, 4:05:41 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): find the addresses of wallets that sent me the most total number of transactions over a period [6/8/14, 4:06:35 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): or, create recursive payments to this address, every X amount of days, for Z number of times (or till date 11/22/2099) [6/8/14, 4:06:49 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): or... you name it [6/8/14, 4:07:07 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): whatever it could be constructed by many API calls, can be used to create one specific API call [6/8/14, 4:07:15 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): it would make communication with the wallet a lot faster [6/8/14, 4:07:23 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and give structured info [6/8/14, 4:07:33 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): which in turn could be used by other applications [6/8/14, 4:07:47 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): without having to know about blocks and transactions and the lot [6/8/14, 4:08:02 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): that would make programming the wallet a lot easier [6/8/14, 4:08:10 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): because now, one must know about how coins works [6/8/14, 4:08:26 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so, it all depends on how complete and what range of applications we would like to cover [6/8/14, 4:08:31 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): in reality, sky's the limit [6/8/14, 4:08:40 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): we will of course would like to retain some balalnce [6/8/14, 4:08:56 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): binary weight / api commands [6/8/14, 4:09:03 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but I believe you get the point [6/8/14, 4:09:33 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so, the real world example (to fight the fudders) would be: make this (through a single call) [6/8/14, 4:09:45 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and when the fudder will say: "We can already do that you moron!" [6/8/14, 4:10:24 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): we will answer: "Yes, with 100 api calls and XXX MB of bandwidth usage and with YYY RAM used to bridge the info, and have it running for UUU amount of time" [6/8/14, 4:10:41 PM] Moosa: i see [6/8/14, 4:11:26 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I believe what would be really nice to add to the API and it would be cutting edge in practical use, would be the coin control [6/8/14, 4:11:34 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): being able to select which transactions to pick in order to send coins [6/8/14, 4:11:54 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): because right now, either you let the wallet pick (and it uses the oldest ones, so for PoS coins this is a disaster) [6/8/14, 4:12:06 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): or you create the transaction manually (which is a kill, believe me) [6/8/14, 4:12:23 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Can the API make trading easier ? Like bot linking ..etc or not ? [6/8/14, 4:12:44 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): well, not easier [6/8/14, 4:12:58 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): because for that purpose, those applications are already aware of how the coin api works [6/8/14, 4:13:03 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so it's not so big problem for them [6/8/14, 4:13:05 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): but [6/8/14, 4:13:25 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): being able to select which coins you're going to use to deposit to the exchange is crucial (with PoS coins) [6/8/14, 4:13:34 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): the oldest coins you use, the more expensive it is [6/8/14, 4:13:48 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): because when you do, you destroy their coinage (which means, they won't stake for you) [6/8/14, 4:14:14 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Aha [6/8/14, 4:14:18 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): till now, you could do it only with the graphical client by selecting the transactions manually (clicking on checkboxes) [6/8/14, 4:14:25 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): also another concept towards that is for exchanges [6/8/14, 4:14:39 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): as you may have noticed, more and more exchanges are staking and distributing the coins generated to users [6/8/14, 4:14:55 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): instead of having to move the coins to cold wallets and waste the original coinage, [6/8/14, 4:14:59 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Like the #1 wallet in cry right ? [6/8/14, 4:15:10 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): we could give them the ability to perform payouts by using the latest transactions and not the oldest [6/8/14, 4:15:46 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): payouts = withdrawals from the user's aspect [6/8/14, 4:16:54 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I believe that by caring what exchanges needs, you create a good partner for your coin [6/8/14, 4:17:16 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I witnessed it in my interaction with exchange admin members [6/8/14, 4:17:58 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): most of them kept telling me that they wish others would be so helpful (devs I mean) for their coins and how good it was that I was taking under consideration their needs [6/8/14, 4:18:35 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): key role (imho) is exchanges at first [6/8/14, 4:18:48 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and merchants or payment gateways, after [6/8/14, 4:19:04 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): if one wants to create a coin with a future, that is [6/8/14, 4:19:13 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): if not, then only exchanges [6/8/14, 4:19:25 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and then, fancy stuff [6/8/14, 4:19:36 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): so, it all depends on where we're heading with CRY [6/8/14, 4:21:13 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): and since both projects are based on my ideas, I believe we got the emotional aspect covered as well [6/8/14, 4:21:29 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Hehe yea [6/8/14, 4:21:33 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I didn't mean it as an ego-thing [6/8/14, 4:21:39 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): just to show that both projects excites me [6/8/14, 4:27:02 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): if you allow me to go afk. dinner time (it's 23:26 here) [6/8/14, 4:27:59 PM] Moosa: cool [6/8/14, 4:30:39 PM] Ahmad (sinarline): Cool see ya -------- [6/10/14, 7:36:30 PM] Moosa: Nothing comprising [6/10/14, 7:36:47 PM] Moosa: Up to your discretion if you feel no [6/10/14, 7:36:50 PM] Moosa: Then that's fine [6/10/14, 7:36:56 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): the thing is [6/10/14, 7:37:23 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): the only thing that could be taken as a screenshot, is the code itself [6/10/14, 7:37:51 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): the tests I'm' doing are not like: Open Wallet -> Anon Transaction -> Check it went through [6/10/14, 7:37:58 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): that's the final step [6/10/14, 7:38:10 PM] Moosa: ah [6/10/14, 7:40:33 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): to help you understand better how this goes [6/10/14, 7:40:34 PM] Moosa: and you have my full support going with it [6/10/14, 7:40:37 PM] Moosa: sure [6/10/14, 7:40:44 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): I am designing the principles of how it will work [6/10/14, 7:40:49 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): break down the flows [6/10/14, 7:41:00 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): create prototype code and test it [6/10/14, 7:41:14 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): if something doesn't work as it should, either re-code it, or re-design it [6/10/14, 7:41:24 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): it's a repetitive work [6/10/14, 7:42:15 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): now, I don't believe that a command-line like this: sendmsg "address" and a result from it would really mean something [6/10/14, 7:42:18 PM] gudcrypt: Moosa how are talks with Cryptsy and MintPal? [6/10/14, 7:42:25 PM] Moosa: I spoke with Horus the other night, they have forwarded my request to Paul, also a big investor I know was going to reach out to Mint and offer them incentive. [6/10/14, 7:44:43 PM] Moosa: We should be listed on Cryptsy soon and Mint to follow [6/10/14, 7:44:53 PM] gudcrypt: Awesome work man! [6/10/14, 7:45:00 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): Mullick at Cryptsy knows me so being listed there should pose no issue. [6/10/14, 7:45:01 PM] gudcrypt: good to know [6/10/14, 7:45:05 PM] Moosa: anyways good chat will check back tomorrow [6/10/14, 7:45:07 PM] Costas (aka mindfox): goodbye [6/10/14, 7:45:13 PM] gudcrypt: later [6/10/14, 7:45:14 PM] Moosa: This ^^^ is why CRYPT will be HUGE!!!#CRYPT #BESTNAME #ALTCOINS(this info is public and available using only google with the right keywords)
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