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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1153923 times)
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February 21, 2016, 04:02:25 PM
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Need some clams?

You missed an R in EARNING.

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February 21, 2016, 04:21:34 PM
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Today I fucked up by buying an image off Fiverr
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February 21, 2016, 04:34:05 PM
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Today I fucked up by buying an image off Fiverr
Fiverr is terrible. You need to have really good luck to find a good designer. Once I tried it for a logo and they just stole an image with minimal modifications (adding text with a standard font), which one of my customers noted. I asked the original author of the image and he didn't know about it and gave no permission. Never again. Now I use always http://en.99designs.de . It's the best for custom logos, graphics and websites. More expensive, but original and you get multiple drafts from different professional artists.
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February 21, 2016, 11:38:41 PM
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Is it possible to use UTF8 for CLAM speech? I tried the sendtoaddress command (after fixing clamd, pull request issued) on an UTF8 terminal, so clamd should get the UTF8 string. I used this string as the CLAM speech parameter "test2 äöü 象形字", transaction: 2e7d31559f88322bbd66ea361f312c695fb62984ae133b7661cd21dcb2110366. I don't know if the UTF8 characters made it into the transaction, looks like khashier.com doesn't show it, but it looks like the typical 2 bytes UTF8 chars.
Update: khashier supports already UTF8, test with the text 嗨!: http://khashier.com/tx/e4d5c2f48e8da1c0ed800edf87281dddb9b8d1c5e612e18b173015c7946707b0
Looks like some kind of command line encoding problem on my Linux machine or in the clamd command line program.

Isn't it technically possible to use any character encoding in clamspeech? Whether or not UTF8 is supported seems to be an issue for whatever is parsing/presenting the clamspeech. After all, the bytes are there, it's just a matter of encoding them as characters for human consumption.

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February 22, 2016, 09:25:27 AM
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Isn't it technically possible to use any character encoding in clamspeech? Whether or not UTF8 is supported seems to be an issue for whatever is parsing/presenting the clamspeech. After all, the bytes are there, it's just a matter of encoding them as characters for human consumption.

Yes, that's what my patch does. It just copies the bytes from the clamd client to the server and to into the transaction, no conversion at all (should be tested on Windows as well, I tested it only on Linux and with the command line tools, not the Qt client). You can use ISO-8859-1 if you like, or UTF8, or any other encoding.

But the transaction doesn't store the information which encoding you used, so as a convention it would be good to use only one encoding. UTF8 would be the best, I think, because it is the international standard nowadays and you can encode nearly anything with it.
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February 23, 2016, 02:06:15 AM
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I always make a habit of checking GPG signatures of downloads (especially for crypto clients), but there are no GPG signatures for the clamclient downloads.

After what happened with Linux Mint, I think this is a good habit to maintain.
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February 23, 2016, 11:13:16 AM
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Where can i find how many Clams are distributed daily?
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February 23, 2016, 07:57:52 PM
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Where can i find how many Clams are distributed daily?

approx 1440 per day....1 minute average block time...... 1 Clam per block as reward

Cheers Jon  Wink

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If

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February 24, 2016, 10:15:26 AM
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Where can i find how many Clams are distributed daily?

approx 1440 per day....1 minute average block time...... 1 Clam per block as reward

Cheers Jon  Wink
Thanks for the answer.

So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?
How is this coin still alive?
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February 24, 2016, 11:02:46 AM
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So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?

There are no miners. It is a proof of stake coin.

Stakes are paid in CLAM, not dollars. Inflation due to staking will tend to devalue each CLAM, leaving staker holdings worth approximately a constant amount.

How is this coin still alive?

Inflation isn't evil when newly created coins are fairly distributed.

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February 24, 2016, 02:06:16 PM
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So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?

There are no miners. It is a proof of stake coin.

Stakes are paid in CLAM, not dollars. Inflation due to staking will tend to devalue each CLAM, leaving staker holdings worth approximately a constant amount.

How is this coin still alive?

Inflation isn't evil when newly created coins are fairly distributed.

Although CLAM is a good coin, and one of the few Altcoins that have real value due to JD, I think we can all agree that we won't be using it in 20 years time!
I agree that inflation isn't a bad thing, in fact in some ways it alleviates the problem of the whale diggers, as they will be diluted out of their idle fortunes.

That being said, in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it.  I don't see that being a problem in the short term.
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February 25, 2016, 01:06:52 AM
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So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?
There are no miners. It is a proof of stake coin.
Stakes are paid in CLAM, not dollars. Inflation due to staking will tend to devalue each CLAM, leaving staker holdings worth approximately a constant amount.
How is this coin still alive?
Inflation isn't evil when newly created coins are fairly distributed.
Although CLAM is a good coin, and one of the few Altcoins that have real value due to JD, I think we can all agree that we won't be using it in 20 years time!
I agree that inflation isn't a bad thing, in fact in some ways it alleviates the problem of the whale diggers, as they will be diluted out of their idle fortunes.
That being said, in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it.  I don't see that being a problem in the short term.

Although 'inflation' is an oft-repeated trigger word, it is important to be clear in your usage. 
Inflation in the traditional sense represents a loss of purchasing power. 
 
For those who do not contribute to the network, or allow their CLAM to sit on an exchange or idle somewhere: 
Yes, 'inflation'/staking represents a loss in purchasing power.

In the case of CLAM, purchasing power is maintained to the degree to which those CLAM are staked. 
This would be the equivalent of fiat magically multiplying in your wallet over time. 
 
The question is, would you care if a 'dollar' was worth half as much, given that when you look in your wallet you have twice as many? 

In truth, for active stakers, the expected value of staking is a net positive. 
One can assume that at all times some amount of CLAM will not be staking. 
Those who are actively staking during that time period earn that share of the reward. 

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February 25, 2016, 01:43:26 AM
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So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?

There are no miners. It is a proof of stake coin.

Stakes are paid in CLAM, not dollars. Inflation due to staking will tend to devalue each CLAM, leaving staker holdings worth approximately a constant amount.

How is this coin still alive?

Inflation isn't evil when newly created coins are fairly distributed.

Although CLAM is a good coin, and one of the few Altcoins that have real value due to JD, I think we can all agree that we won't be using it in 20 years time!
I agree that inflation isn't a bad thing, in fact in some ways it alleviates the problem of the whale diggers, as they will be diluted out of their idle fortunes.

That being said, in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it.  I don't see that being a problem in the short term.

In 20 years PresiKing Trump will be starting his sixth term.  CLAM will be the official chip at all Trump casinos, including the ones in Iran, North Korea, Guantanimo, and Mars.

Secretary of the Treasury Dooglus will be on our side.

I advise hodling.



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That being said, in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it.  I don't see that being a problem in the short term.

Long term, any fixed rate of issuance will approach a balance with the rate of lost coins.

It won't be deflationary like Bitcoin (once issuance is finished, lost Bitcoins will actually shrink the money supply) but it won't be inflationary either.
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February 25, 2016, 09:09:10 AM
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in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it.

Is there any evidence from the altcoin domain to support this assertion?

Cheers

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Awesome info, thank you
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February 29, 2016, 08:44:23 AM
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Hi,

I'm maintaining Cryptocoins – vector/webfont cryptocurrency icon pack; just released a new update (1.6) including Clams (thanks to request by your community members and/or your coinmarketcap position)!


Hope you won't mind me posting here (other communities appreciate it).
If you like the work, tip me crypto and support further development:

Clams: xAvdvSiN6x4DhwPkGFAe2mEqtFbVfurscf
BTC: 1MByfmAdyRFr3qxMh2cspX5RsxS4FKjMmH

Cheers!
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March 01, 2016, 08:37:02 PM
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Hi,
I'm maintaining Cryptocoins – vector/webfont cryptocurrency icon pack; just released a new update (1.6) including Clams (thanks to request by your community members and/or your coinmarketcap position)!
Hope you won't mind me posting here (other communities appreciate it).
If you like the work, tip me crypto and support further development:
Clams: xAvdvSiN6x4DhwPkGFAe2mEqtFbVfurscf
BTC: 1MByfmAdyRFr3qxMh2cspX5RsxS4FKjMmH
Cheers!
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March 01, 2016, 09:43:13 PM
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No really... without digging clams will lose ALOT of his charme. And i think it will go down pretty fast then too.
How can you say that after 2 years!? The only reason why CLAM is still alive and kicking  is Just-Dice. You can't be that blind. I don't have a problem with digging but that award (4.6) need to be smaller with time.

You didn't get my point. What I was trying to say in the unquoted text is that all the new users mainly come to clam because of that unique feature. To be honest, I would never have bothered to spend the hours of time investigating clams when I could not be pretty sure that I would find some clams on old addresses of mine.

Take this away, where will new clam users come from?

From gamblers? Why? They will most probably be bitcoiners so why should they bother checking out just-dice when they would have to buy and checkout some altcoin to gamble there? JD is not even the biggest casino so I don't see why one shoul invest the time to do so.

Clam will die pretty fast because it won't be able to attract new users anymore. A gambling site with only a single altcoin, I don't know if it can attract normal gamblers. I doubt, because of the hassle.

Well, only my opinion...

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