[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[gembitz]

What happened specifically?

^bought clams on yobit and tried to send to your site and they never get confirmed! :\ thx for your help!

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 Date    Currency    Amount    Confirm    Status
2017.01.30 06:14:27    CLAM    11.66795658    0    In process
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The "In process" label makes it look like yobit didn't send the coins yet. You should contact their support and ask for help there.

It could be that their CLAM wallet has crashed and nobody noticed yet for instance. Or maybe they need to refill their hot wallet.

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!

[dooglus]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!

Can you show the communication you've had with them?

I don't see how your issues with a third party exchange reflect on me or the creators of CLAM in any way.

[gembitz]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!

Can you show the communication you've had with them?

I don't see how your issues with a third party exchange reflect on me or the creators of CLAM in any way.

^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\

[andulolika]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!

Can you show the communication you've had with them?

I don't see how your issues with a third party exchange reflect on me or the creators of CLAM in any way.

^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\

Yobit is a shit exchange and is not to be trusted, while they have they ways i don't think they would steal few clams from anyone unless they going to shit soon.

[gembitz]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!

Can you show the communication you've had with them?

I don't see how your issues with a third party exchange reflect on me or the creators of CLAM in any way.

^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\

Yobit is a shit exchange and is not to be trusted, while they have they ways i don't think they would steal few clams from anyone unless they going to shit soon.

^ya and clams dev(dooglus) real classy in his last post talking about how he just unlocked 10000 clams yet cannot figure out how to contact yobit ...srsly? :\

[andulolika]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!

Can you show the communication you've had with them?

I don't see how your issues with a third party exchange reflect on me or the creators of CLAM in any way.

^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\

Yobit is a shit exchange and is not to be trusted, while they have they ways i don't think they would steal few clams from anyone unless they going to shit soon.

^ya and clams dev(dooglus) real classy in his last post talking about how he just unlocked 10000 clams yet cannot figure out how to contact yobit ...srsly? :\

Why is his fault that you used a shitty exchange?

[gembitz]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!

Can you show the communication you've had with them?

I don't see how your issues with a third party exchange reflect on me or the creators of CLAM in any way.

^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\

Yobit is a shit exchange and is not to be trusted, while they have they ways i don't think they would steal few clams from anyone unless they going to shit soon.

^ya and clams dev(dooglus) real classy in his last post talking about how he just unlocked 10000 clams yet cannot figure out how to contact yobit ...srsly? :\

Why is his fault that you used a shitty exchange?

^well they have been selling "CLAMs" on their exchange if i were doog i'd be seriously alarmed! Where do i go for help? :\

[SuperClam]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!
^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\
^ya and clams dev(dooglus) real classy in his last post talking about how he just unlocked 10000 clams yet cannot figure out how to contact yobit ...srsly? :\
^well they have been selling "CLAMs" on their exchange if i were doog i'd be seriously alarmed! Where do i go for help? :\

Sorry to hear that you've have problems with an exchange.  
This won't help you in your current situation, but it is an important (and recently posted in this thread) lesson to understand:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F12lpqnug-0  
  
Due to privacy and best practices I highly doubt (and hope) yobit would not communicate with dooglus or I, or anyone else, concerning your problem.  
There is simply nothing that can be done beyond contacting their support and hoping that they are willing to return your CLAM.  
  
They hold the keys; therefore it is their CLAM - until they choose to give it back to you.
  
Best of luck in getting your CLAM.

[gembitz]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!
^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\
^ya and clams dev(dooglus) real classy in his last post talking about how he just unlocked 10000 clams yet cannot figure out how to contact yobit ...srsly? :\
^well they have been selling "CLAMs" on their exchange if i were doog i'd be seriously alarmed! Where do i go for help? :\

Sorry to hear that you've have problems with an exchange.  
This won't help you in your current situation, but it is an important (and recently posted in this thread) lesson to understand:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F12lpqnug-0  
  
Due to privacy and best practices I highly doubt (and hope) yobit would not communicate with dooglus or I, or anyone else, concerning your problem.  
There is simply nothing that can be done beyond contacting their support and hoping that they are willing to return your CLAM.  
  
They hold the keys; therefore it is their CLAM - until they choose to give it back to you.
  
Best of luck in getting your CLAM.

^look this is your coin and if you cannot even reach the exchange i recommend telling them to take your gambling token coin off the exchange...do you need me to do your job for you? i will and you will be looking hella stupid!! :\ AND YES I WILL WANT THE BUG REPORTING BOUNTY!!!!

[almightyruler]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!
^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\
^ya and clams dev(dooglus) real classy in his last post talking about how he just unlocked 10000 clams yet cannot figure out how to contact yobit ...srsly? :\
^well they have been selling "CLAMs" on their exchange if i were doog i'd be seriously alarmed! Where do i go for help? :\

Sorry to hear that you've have problems with an exchange.  
This won't help you in your current situation, but it is an important (and recently posted in this thread) lesson to understand:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F12lpqnug-0  
  
Due to privacy and best practices I highly doubt (and hope) yobit would not communicate with dooglus or I, or anyone else, concerning your problem.  
There is simply nothing that can be done beyond contacting their support and hoping that they are willing to return your CLAM.  
  
They hold the keys; therefore it is their CLAM - until they choose to give it back to you.
  
Best of luck in getting your CLAM.

^look this is your coin and if you cannot even reach the exchange i recommend telling them to take your gambling token coin off the exchange...do you need me to do your job for you? i will and you will be looking hella stupid!! :\ AND YES I WILL WANT THE BUG REPORTING BOUNTY!!!!

gembitz: Bitcoin and altcoins like CLAM are decentralised currencies. The developers of such coins (mostly) do not have any control over funds or transactions; they just release clients that allow you to participate in the network. In general, all confirmed transactions are final, and cannot be reversed, or changed in any way. This is by design; there is no central body that can arbitrate or reverse transactions. This is not Paypal.

You've sent funds to another party, therefore they "own" those funds. Your account at yobit is just an entry in their database which says you have a balance of X CLAMS, but as far as the network is concerned, you sent those funds to yobit, so yobit owns those funds. You need to sort that out with them - no one else has any power to compel them to do anything...

[SuperClam]

^look this is your coin and if you cannot even reach the exchange i recommend telling them to take your gambling token coin off the exchange...do you need me to do your job for you? i will and you will be looking hella stupid!! :\ AND YES I WILL WANT THE BUG REPORTING BOUNTY!!!!

 
  
We cannot force any service to not use (or use) CLAM.  
The CLAM network and software are not a permissioned system.  

Though we could likely cause havoc by not supporting CLAM; it is not 'ours'.  
The only people who 'own' the CLAM network are the users of the CLAM network.  
Only they can decide to change the rules they follow.  
  
Let us have an experiment.  
I wonder if I can stop the CLAM network.  
  

Okay everyone.
It's been fun but CLAMs no longer exist.  
I hereby decree, as the arbiter of all that is good and sovereign of CLAMdom, CLAM shall be no more!  

 
  
Something tells me that the next CLAM block will be coming down the pike in around 1 minute anyways.  
  
That is a feature - not a bug.  
  
I am sorry that you are unable to convince yobit to give you back your CLAM.  
Fortunately, CLAM transactions are final once cemented in the chain.  
  
 
  
Your questions have been answered.  
Ask yobit for your CLAM, their support channel is the correct place for this conversation.  
Once you have a transaction that is on the CLAM chain and it isn't showing in your JD balance, then the JD thread is the appropriate channel.
  
It doesn't belong here.  
Thank you.

[gembitz]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!
^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\
^ya and clams dev(dooglus) real classy in his last post talking about how he just unlocked 10000 clams yet cannot figure out how to contact yobit ...srsly? :\
^well they have been selling "CLAMs" on their exchange if i were doog i'd be seriously alarmed! Where do i go for help? :\

Sorry to hear that you've have problems with an exchange.  
This won't help you in your current situation, but it is an important (and recently posted in this thread) lesson to understand:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F12lpqnug-0  
  
Due to privacy and best practices I highly doubt (and hope) yobit would not communicate with dooglus or I, or anyone else, concerning your problem.  
There is simply nothing that can be done beyond contacting their support and hoping that they are willing to return your CLAM.  
  
They hold the keys; therefore it is their CLAM - until they choose to give it back to you.
  
Best of luck in getting your CLAM.

^look this is your coin and if you cannot even reach the exchange i recommend telling them to take your gambling token coin off the exchange...do you need me to do your job for you? i will and you will be looking hella stupid!! :\ AND YES I WILL WANT THE BUG REPORTING BOUNTY!!!!

gembitz: Bitcoin and altcoins like CLAM are decentralised currencies. The developers of such coins (mostly) do not have any control over funds or transactions; they just release clients that allow you to participate in the network. In general, all confirmed transactions are final, and cannot be reversed, or changed in any way. This is by design; there is no central body that can arbitrate or reverse transactions. This is not Paypal.

You've sent funds to another party, therefore they "own" those funds. Your account at yobit is just an entry in their database which says you have a balance of X CLAMS, but as far as the network is concerned, you sent those funds to yobit, so yobit owns those funds. You need to sort that out with them - no one else has any power to compel them to do anything...

^fool i sent from yobit to doogs site...i'm not a n00bie~ i'm telling you there was ZERO CONFIRMS! Something is wrong with your coin or exchange is wallet is messed up! YES I JUST REPORTED A "BUG" :-D

[almightyruler]

^fool[...]

Well that right there ends any further assistance or advice I'm willing to give you. Best of luck!

[gembitz]

^fool[...]

Well that right there ends any further assistance or advice I'm willing to give you. Best of luck!

^listen chum this isn't my first rodeo! :-D yobit will get it squared away...zzz

[chilly2k]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!
^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\
^ya and clams dev(dooglus) real classy in his last post talking about how he just unlocked 10000 clams yet cannot figure out how to contact yobit ...srsly? :\
^well they have been selling "CLAMs" on their exchange if i were doog i'd be seriously alarmed! Where do i go for help? :\

Sorry to hear that you've have problems with an exchange.  
This won't help you in your current situation, but it is an important (and recently posted in this thread) lesson to understand:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F12lpqnug-0  
  
Due to privacy and best practices I highly doubt (and hope) yobit would not communicate with dooglus or I, or anyone else, concerning your problem.  
There is simply nothing that can be done beyond contacting their support and hoping that they are willing to return your CLAM.  
  
They hold the keys; therefore it is their CLAM - until they choose to give it back to you.
  
Best of luck in getting your CLAM.

^look this is your coin and if you cannot even reach the exchange i recommend telling them to take your gambling token coin off the exchange...do you need me to do your job for you? i will and you will be looking hella stupid!! :\ AND YES I WILL WANT THE BUG REPORTING BOUNTY!!!!

gembitz: Bitcoin and altcoins like CLAM are decentralised currencies. The developers of such coins (mostly) do not have any control over funds or transactions; they just release clients that allow you to participate in the network. In general, all confirmed transactions are final, and cannot be reversed, or changed in any way. This is by design; there is no central body that can arbitrate or reverse transactions. This is not Paypal.

You've sent funds to another party, therefore they "own" those funds. Your account at yobit is just an entry in their database which says you have a balance of X CLAMS, but as far as the network is concerned, you sent those funds to yobit, so yobit owns those funds. You need to sort that out with them - no one else has any power to compel them to do anything...

^fool i sent from yobit to doogs site...i'm not a n00bie~ i'm telling you there was ZERO CONFIRMS! Something is wrong with your coin or exchange is wallet is messed up! YES I JUST REPORTED A "BUG" :-D

Do you have a transaction ID?

[gembitz]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!
^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here? lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~ do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\
^ya and clams dev(dooglus) real classy in his last post talking about how he just unlocked 10000 clams yet cannot figure out how to contact yobit ...srsly? :\
^well they have been selling "CLAMs" on their exchange if i were doog i'd be seriously alarmed! Where do i go for help? :\

Sorry to hear that you've have problems with an exchange.  
This won't help you in your current situation, but it is an important (and recently posted in this thread) lesson to understand:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F12lpqnug-0  
  
Due to privacy and best practices I highly doubt (and hope) yobit would not communicate with dooglus or I, or anyone else, concerning your problem.  
There is simply nothing that can be done beyond contacting their support and hoping that they are willing to return your CLAM.  
  
They hold the keys; therefore it is their CLAM - until they choose to give it back to you.
  
Best of luck in getting your CLAM.

^look this is your coin and if you cannot even reach the exchange i recommend telling them to take your gambling token coin off the exchange...do you need me to do your job for you? i will and you will be looking hella stupid!! :\ AND YES I WILL WANT THE BUG REPORTING BOUNTY!!!!

gembitz: Bitcoin and altcoins like CLAM are decentralised currencies. The developers of such coins (mostly) do not have any control over funds or transactions; they just release clients that allow you to participate in the network. In general, all confirmed transactions are final, and cannot be reversed, or changed in any way. This is by design; there is no central body that can arbitrate or reverse transactions. This is not Paypal.

You've sent funds to another party, therefore they "own" those funds. Your account at yobit is just an entry in their database which says you have a balance of X CLAMS, but as far as the network is concerned, you sent those funds to yobit, so yobit owns those funds. You need to sort that out with them - no one else has any power to compel them to do anything...

^fool i sent from yobit to doogs site...i'm not a n00bie~ i'm telling you there was ZERO CONFIRMS! Something is wrong with your coin or exchange is wallet is messed up! YES I JUST REPORTED A "BUG" :-D

Do you have a transaction ID?

^zero confirms i was thinking of trying to send more to push the first coins throgh idk what to do... :\

===> my addy :: xGXxMdivUs2ZzvzUUwbBxwpHkzVMkvNht9

[dooglus]

^yeah since january and after multipule support tickets here we are ! :/ this is your coin i'd contact them because it reflects on you!!

Can you show the communication you've had with them?

I don't see how your issues with a third party exchange reflect on me or the creators of CLAM in any way.

^they have ignored my support tickets! What should i repost them here?

I didn't know they had ignored you. You didn't say anything about the tickets, other than that you were "after multipule support tickets".

lol yobit has been holding my coins i sent to YOUR SITE ... im not too happy ~

You're not being very clear. How could yobit be holding coins that you sent to my site? Wouldn't I be holding them?

It sounds to me like you trusted a third party with some coins, asked them to send your coins to my site, and they ignored you. That's not the same as you sending them.

do i get a bug reporting fee after all this is fixed? wtf doog! :\

I think you're reporting this to the wrong person. I don't know what yobit is, but I'm guessing it is an exchange. Do they have a twitter presence? Or a BitcoinTalk thread? You could consider trying to get their attention by making a public fuss in those kinds of places if you're not getting satisfaction communicating directly. But complaining in the CLAM thread doesn't seem appropriate. It's nothing to do with anyone here.

[dooglus]

i sent from yobit to doogs site...i'm not a n00bie~ i'm telling you there was ZERO CONFIRMS!

Which transaction are you saying has zero confirmations?

Can you show the transaction ID, or even better the raw transaction hex bytes?

I can rebroadcast the raw hex bytes and it should confirm within a couple of minutes.

I suspect that there never was any transaction made, so it wouldn't be accurate to say that it didn't confirm. Just that it didn't even exist.

You need to talk to the exchange about this. They won't talk to third parties (like me) about dealings with their customers. It would be very unprofessional of them to do so.

Edit: I made a support ticket at yobit pointing them at this thread. Maybe they'll post here to give their side of your conflict with them. And maybe not. I don't know what else I can do.

[gembitz]

i sent from yobit to doogs site...i'm not a n00bie~ i'm telling you there was ZERO CONFIRMS!

Which transaction are you saying has zero confirmations?

Can you show the transaction ID, or even better the raw transaction hex bytes?

I can rebroadcast the raw hex bytes and it should confirm within a couple of minutes.

I suspect that there never was any transaction made, so it wouldn't be accurate to say that it didn't confirm. Just that it didn't even exist.

You need to talk to the exchange about this. They won't talk to third parties (like me) about dealings with their customers. It would be very unprofessional of them to do so.

Edit: I made a support ticket at yobit pointing them at this thread. Maybe they'll post here to give their side of your conflict with them. And maybe not. I don't know what else I can do.

^thanks perhaps this will work! :\  appreciate it

[SuperClam]

Edit: I made a support ticket at yobit pointing them at this thread. Maybe they'll post here to give their side of your conflict with them. And maybe not. I don't know what else I can do.

 
 
dooglus, the ever-patient troll whisperer. 
 
Has a ring to it.