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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1153931 times)
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June 23, 2017, 05:21:15 PM
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I would be surprised if that is a poloniex address. I think they move most of their coins to cold storage shortly after receiving them, and no coin have ever moved from that address.

My poloniex address looks similar & a similar balance.

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CLAM/address.php?address=xAHwDW5n6Kup8x8a7ffRTkMxBpZxtHy1U2

I've never seen a cold storage sweep, like what you used to do.

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June 28, 2017, 10:29:56 AM
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Is it possible I can claim CLAM from coinbase address.

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June 28, 2017, 04:40:25 PM
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Is it possible I can claim CLAM from coinbase address.

It is possible if and only if you have the private key for the address. I don't know if Coinbase will give you the private key or not. Alternatively Coinbase could claim the CLAM on your behalf and share it with you. You would have to talk to them about that.

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June 28, 2017, 04:41:55 PM
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I would be surprised if that is a poloniex address. I think they move most of their coins to cold storage shortly after receiving them, and no coin have ever moved from that address.

My poloniex address looks similar & a similar balance.

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CLAM/address.php?address=xAHwDW5n6Kup8x8a7ffRTkMxBpZxtHy1U2

I've never seen a cold storage sweep, like what you used to do.

I was thinking that since no coins had moved out of the address it likely wasn't an exchange address, but I see now one of the deposits has moved. I guess I was wrong.

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June 28, 2017, 04:53:41 PM
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Is it possible I can claim CLAM from coinbase address.

It is possible if and only if you have the private key for the address. I don't know if Coinbase will give you the private key or not. Alternatively Coinbase could claim the CLAM on your behalf and share it with you. You would have to talk to them about that.


I tried this site to check  https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/ but it's saying my account not eligible.

Even I had my wallet address before then may 2014. I don't think Coinbase either give me private keys or will claim clam for me.

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June 29, 2017, 04:49:46 AM
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Hi dooglus, how did you made outputs of 100 CLAMS and also how did you split them once they stake? Is there any instructions to put in conf file or so?

To make the outputs I did something like:

    $ clamd sendtoaddress <address-goes-here> '{"amount":100,"count":50}'

And to auto split on stake, I put this in my clam.conf:

    splitsize=25
    combinelimit=50


Where is the clam.conf located?  Thanks!  Smiley
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June 29, 2017, 10:25:54 AM
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I tried this site to check  https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/dig/ but it's saying my account not eligible.

Even I had my wallet address before then may 2014. I don't think Coinbase either give me private keys or will claim clam for me.


There is also other criteria that should be meet in order to get your BTC/LTC/Doge wallet to be funded, not just having or owning the address before May 2014, you need to meet some balance threshold, so your account is not considered a dust holding account, also you need to have that amount in the address at the moment that the snapshot of the different blockchains was taken. I don't use Coinbase but I doubt they give the private keys, even to their "vault" multisignature users, also doubt that "vault" function was around when the Clam distribution was made.

Where is the clam.conf located?  Thanks!  Smiley

 Usually on Windows you can find it at this location:

C:\Users\YourUserName\Appdata\Roaming\Clamcoin (on Windows 7)
C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Application data\Clamcoin ( on Windows XP)

For linux you can try to look for this location:

~/.clamcoin/

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 Usually on Windows you can find it at this location:

C:\Users\YourUserName\Appdata\Roaming\Clamcoin (on Windows 7)
C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Application data\Clamcoin ( on Windows XP)

For linux you can try to look for this location:

~/.clamcoin/


Thank you.   Smiley

If this file does not exist, then is it something that needs to be created?   I am trying to set up a miner to automatically split outputs when I find a block.
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June 29, 2017, 08:57:36 PM
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CLAMS!

Cool - I like the idea that they were sent to holders of existing other coins (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin) to get them out there...just wondering what percentage have not yet been claimed.  Sorry if this is not the correct section to ask that question. Smiley
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 Usually on Windows you can find it at this location:

C:\Users\YourUserName\Appdata\Roaming\Clamcoin (on Windows 7)
C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Application data\Clamcoin ( on Windows XP)

For linux you can try to look for this location:

~/.clamcoin/


Thank you.   Smiley

If this file does not exist, then is it something that needs to be created?   I am trying to set up a miner to automatically split outputs when I find a block.

You may already know this, but if you're new to linux it might be helpful:

Files that have names that start with a "." are "hidden" by default.  So, in a terminal, you'll have to specify -l (to ls) in order to see them.  In a gui file explorer, you may have to click something like "show hidden files".
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June 29, 2017, 09:44:18 PM
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You may already know this, but if you're new to linux it might be helpful:

Files that have names that start with a "." are "hidden" by default.  So, in a terminal, you'll have to specify -l (to ls) in order to see them.  In a gui file explorer, you may have to click something like "show hidden files".

I set it to show hidden files and still do not see it.

I am wondering if the file is not there because I have not made any changes to the clam client since installing it?
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June 30, 2017, 04:37:01 AM
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CLAMS!

Cool - I like the idea that they were sent to holders of existing other coins (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin) to get them out there...just wondering what percentage have not yet been claimed.  Sorry if this is not the correct section to ask that question. Smiley

 In Just-Dice chat we have a command that help with that statistics, it show how many sets (each set refer to a funded BTC/LTC/Doge address) of 4.60 clams have been claim of the total of possible claimable sets, also the amount of Clam in circulation and how many come from claiming (we refer to it as dug Clams) and how many come from the Staking process. It also give you the theoretical money supply if all the Clams get claimed all at once. This command is "/supply" without the quotes.

 At the moment that i wrote this the statistics goes like this:
222,562 of 3,208,032 sets of 4.60545574 CLAM were dug, This is around if my the calculator didn't fail me 6.93% have been claim so rounding we can say that there is 93% that have not been claim yet.
1,024,999 CLAM were dug up and 1,472,515 CLAM were staked for a total of 2,497,514 CLAM
if all the distributed CLAMs were dug up, the total money supply would be 16,246,916 CLAM


I set it to show hidden files and still do not see it.

I am wondering if the file is not there because I have not made any changes to the clam client since installing it?

 I don't know of the case of ClamClient but I read that in the case of Bitcoin, the bitcoin.conf file is optional and not usually created automatically, When I had wallets installed the .conf file was always there, I don't remember a case that need to create it from scratch, It was there when I needed to add things like nodes IP, maybe it's part of how your OS works with the wallet, so if you don't have it and you know that you're in the right directory where the file should be, you should try to find a sample to use it as a template for your configurations or just add the parameters that apply to your case and create the .conf file. This can be done in many plain text editors just by saving the file as .conf

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June 30, 2017, 05:27:04 PM
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 I don't know of the case of ClamClient but I read that in the case of Bitcoin, the bitcoin.conf file is optional and not usually created automatically, When I had wallets installed the .conf file was always there, I don't remember a case that need to create it from scratch, It was there when I needed to add things like nodes IP, maybe it's part of how your OS works with the wallet, so if you don't have it and you know that you're in the right directory where the file should be, you should try to find a sample to use it as a template for your configurations or just add the parameters that apply to your case and create the .conf file. This can be done in many plain text editors just by saving the file as .conf

I will try to create the file and set it up to split outputs when I stake.  Thanks.  Smiley
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June 30, 2017, 09:26:41 PM
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I am very late to the CLAM party, but now that I'm here, I'm having a lot of fun! I made a post about digging for CLAMs in all my old addresses here:

http://object2212.com/?p=1566

Let me know what I got wrong!

Also, I've been having trouble figuring out how to get my CLAMs to stake... I'm sure it's here somewhere, but does anyone have a link handy?

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June 30, 2017, 09:33:54 PM
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I am very late to the CLAM party, but now that I'm here, I'm having a lot of fun! I made a post about digging for CLAMs in all my old addresses here:

http://object2212.com/?p=1566

Let me know what I got wrong!

Also, I've been having trouble figuring out how to get my CLAMs to stake... I'm sure it's here somewhere, but does anyone have a link handy?

Great article! 

No such thing as being late to CLAM.... some would argue that you're early Tongue.

The best and most profitable place to stake is on Just-Dice.com.

Staking elsewhere and at home helps decentralize the system though.

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June 30, 2017, 10:21:42 PM
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If this file does not exist, then is it something that needs to be created?

Yes. The CLAM client will create the folder for you automatically, and will create a wallet.dat file inside the folder too, but it will never create the clam.conf file. You need to do that for yourself. It's possible that on some operating systems the installation program will create an example clam.conf for you. I've never see that happen though.

Files that have names that start with a "." are "hidden" by default.  So, in a terminal, you'll have to specify -l (to ls) in order to see them.

You probably know this, but it's 'ls -a' not 'ls -l' to show hidden files.

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July 02, 2017, 08:13:55 PM
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CLAM Staking:

What is the most profitable method to stake clamcoins?

I have heard of just-dice. What are the type of returns I can expect. I have like 100 CLAMs.

Also if its beneficial for the network I can stake on my windows PC.

What are the returns on personal staking vs staking on just-dice?
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CLAM Staking:

What is the most profitable method to stake clamcoins?

I have heard of just-dice. What are the type of returns I can expect. I have like 100 CLAMs.

Also if its beneficial for the network I can stake on my windows PC.

What are the returns on personal staking vs staking on just-dice?

just-dice: controls a large portion of the network's unspent outputs, so it will stake consistently, but you do pay a 10% (I think) premium on each stake.

local client: you get your full stake reward, but with a low balance staking will be erratic. You may stake twice in one day, then not stake for another 3 weeks. It does benefit the network because it's decentralising proof-of-stake mining.

I'll let someone else provide you with an estimate of the return on 100 CLAMs, but remember that your ability to win a stake is based on network weight, which will vary.
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CLAM Staking:

What is the most profitable method to stake clamcoins?

I have heard of just-dice. What are the type of returns I can expect. I have like 100 CLAMs.

Also if its beneficial for the network I can stake on my windows PC.

What are the returns on personal staking vs staking on just-dice?

just-dice: controls a large portion of the network's unspent outputs, so it will stake consistently, but you do pay a 10% (I think) premium on each stake.

local client: you get your full stake reward, but with a low balance staking will be erratic. You may stake twice in one day, then not stake for another 3 weeks. It does benefit the network because it's decentralising proof-of-stake mining.

I'll let someone else provide you with an estimate of the return on 100 CLAMs, but remember that your ability to win a stake is based on network weight, which will vary.

Some rough calculations:

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CLAM/address.php?address=xXBa8jCUprdaJfM8Y4R5tsemEEumuP1WpL shows the biggest solo staker. You can see how often he's staking. He seems to have staked 30 times in 3 days, with a balance of 6500. So he's making 10 CLAMs per day, or 1 CLAM per day per (6500 / 10) = 650 CLAMs staking.

https://just-dice.com/misc/wagered.txt shows how many CLAMs Just-Dice stakes per day. It's around 1320 per day with 847,580 invested, or 1188 after the 10% commission, so JD investors make something like 1 CLAM per day per (847580 / 1188) = 713 CLAMs invested.

tl;dr: on JD you need ~713 CLAMs invested to earn 1 CLAM per day; solo staking you only need ~650, so solo staking is better.

Edit: this github comment from 6 months ago shows that you used to need around 1350 CLAMs to be staking in order to earn 1 CLAM per day. This suggests that the difficulty has roughly halved in the last 6 months, which seems counterintuitive.

The explanation is the alt-coin bubble we're currently in. Half the CLAMs left Just-Dice and ended up sitting in the Poloniex cold wallet, not staking. So half as many CLAMs are staking, but the amount staked is the same as before. So each CLAM stakes twice as well as it used to.

Difficulty charts: all time: , last 6 months: (click to enlarge)

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July 03, 2017, 03:06:08 PM
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No such thing as being late to CLAM....

I want to say hi to investors and gamblers. Hi!

So. Is there a signature campaign here on btctalk that pays in Clam? If yes, please point me in the right direction. Thanks.

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