[XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos

[rdnkjdi]

Maybe just a coincidence but rdnkjdi Talked today about being pissed about losing money to Jason, and he talks about consensus every 5 minutes in rpietila Altcoin Observer, and he says he doesn't own any coins. Just like you. Hmmmm. What are the odds? On the same day! Any Math guys here? Maybe its just some sort of consensanus between 2 guys... huh? Not judging.

You are correct. Open source is better, but as we have discussed a 1000x already... not now. We discussed this issue about 3 months ago. The community came to a consensus on the issue.

Yup me and him had the consensus talk long ago and he  was involved in the fib project.  Nice to know I've got a stalker.

If I pointed out in the litecoin thread Jasinlee is still selling himself as in a partnership to you guys and that he plans on ripping off XC code for his Cachecoin project I could have an army of pissed ASIC pre order litecoiners in here I promise.  So give me an ounce of credit.

Dont worry.. if there is a fud attempt to get coins a bit cheaper is because there is gonna be a pump soon as there is news and important positive dates coming this next days. They can't get cheap coins without fud.. otherwise someone would buy those little sell walls trying to push down. They are playing their card before is too late to buy cheap and price rise. That is good.

Whatever dudes.  Buy up 

[CryptoGretzky]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

Bc one is open source?

So what if it's open source?   The question is... even if it's open source, do YOU know how secure it is.   BitMessage is still awaiting independent audit themselves like I said.  Even if both are open source, if both have not been audited independently... you don't really know how secure it is.   eg.  there is nothing to quantify against each other.

It's like arguing about who's lawn is greener without a spectrophotometer or... who can throw the ball faster without a calibrated radar gun.

We are just not at the point to ask questions like that yet.

Open source anon software > closed source that claims to be anon.
 

Ya... as if you can read code.    Open source shit is not better than close source...

You are telling me that GIMP is better than Photoshop?

USBcoin was open source... so what?  There was malicious code in there to allow the scamming dev to create fake coins and made over 120 btc from the scam.

Open source codes that aren't maintained and audited by experts all the time are some of the most vunerable because there can be zero day exploit simply because any flaws are immediately seen by black hats while the white hats people are sleeping.

Snapchat, Whatsapp, Line... EVERY SINGLE one of these are not open source.   You think normal people give a crap about it?

[rdnkjdi]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

Bc one is open source?

So what if it's open source?   The question is... even if it's open source, do YOU know how secure it is.   BitMessage is still awaiting independent audit themselves like I said.  Even if both are open source, if both have not been audited independently... you don't really know how secure it is.   eg.  there is nothing to quantify against each other.

It's like arguing about who's lawn is greener without a spectrophotometer or... who can throw the ball faster without a calibrated radar gun.

We are just not at the point to ask questions like that yet.

Open source anon software > closed source that claims to be anon.
 

Ya... as if you can read code.    Open source shit is not better than close source...

You are telling me that GIMP is better than Photoshop?

USBcoin was open source... so what?  There was malicious code in there to allow the scamming dev to create fake coins and made over 120 btc from the scam.

Open source codes that aren't maintained and audited by experts all the time are some of the most vunerable because there can be zero day exploit simply because any flaws are immediately seen by black hats while the white hats people are sleeping.

Snapchat, Whatsapp, Line... EVERY SINGLE one of these are not open source.   You think normal people give a crap about it?

People who are serious about anon and into cryptocurrencies.  Yes.  Very much so. 

People who are not serious will buy doge

[CryptoGretzky]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

Bc one is open source?

So what if it's open source?   The question is... even if it's open source, do YOU know how secure it is.   BitMessage is still awaiting independent audit themselves like I said.  Even if both are open source, if both have not been audited independently... you don't really know how secure it is.   eg.  there is nothing to quantify against each other.

It's like arguing about who's lawn is greener without a spectrophotometer or... who can throw the ball faster without a calibrated radar gun.

We are just not at the point to ask questions like that yet.

Open source anon software > closed source that claims to be anon.
 

Ya... as if you can read code.    Open source shit is not better than close source...

You are telling me that GIMP is better than Photoshop?

USBcoin was open source... so what?  There was malicious code in there to allow the scamming dev to create fake coins and made over 120 btc from the scam.

Open source codes that aren't maintained and audited by experts all the time are some of the most vunerable because there can be zero day exploit simply because any flaws are immediately seen by black hats while the white hats people are sleeping.

Snapchat, Whatsapp, Line... EVERY SINGLE one of these are not open source.   You think normal people give a crap about it?

People who are serious about anon and into cryptocurrencies.  Yes.  Very much so. 

People who are not serious will buy doge

Ya... people that have money and can move market can't read codes.   They rely on experts review.   Guess what?   XC will have those reviews and bounties post Rev 3. 

You are welcome.

[alantech991]

Hello good peoples of XCurrency. Does anybody have a good description on how XChat works? Perhaps some documentation?

Alan

[rdnkjdi]

I'll look forward to it   

[novirudarzg]

hello friends

havent been arround for a while ...

but.. my friend told me smth like there is new xc multipool or smthing like that

so .. is there finally any working xc multipool at this moment?

thanks in advanc

big love..

Rudar

[shanuu]

Hello good peoples of XCurrency. Does anybody have a good description on how XChat works? Perhaps some documentation?

Alan

http://downloads.xc-official.com/images/14-08-05%20Bitcointalk%20Opening%20Post.pdf

Maybe this help you.

cheers

[Dungor]

Hello good peoples of XCurrency. Does anybody have a good description on how XChat works? Perhaps some documentation?

Alan

You download the client.

Create a new address that you label XChat.
If your wallet is locked unlock it and rightclick on the XChat address, you now have the option to both copy the address and the public key. When you have them stored lock the wallet again or unlock it but only for staking.
Post your address and public key in here with a post asking for help testing if it works. Then wait

This will presumably become a lot more user friendly with the upcoming user interface update.

I'm at work so I can't post screenshots to guide you. Let me know if any of steps in the process require additional detailing.

[Herbix]

I'm the messiah coming to save your investment !

Ok ... and ?
I'm happy you was not at the start of BTC supporting it with your vision and idea ...

Just leave ...

You do realize that not seeing the "con" side of an investment is a bad idea right?  Any coin I decide to invest in I will welcome criticism to.  Informed decisions are not blindly optimistic ones

We are looking for constructive criticism, not fud. XC has proven itself to be a legitimate currency with high standards for any tech put out publicly.  I remember you were a very active member in one of the fud threads. Further you did not listen to our answer and took your own conclusions.

It's mostly because I've not seen any real answers.  I do have a question - how does XChat compare to Bitmessage - does it offer better anonymity and if so how?

It's funny you ask that, because even BitMessage is asking for independent audit for their system.   Do YOU know how BitMessage is really anonymous and good in any way?   How do you compare one system to another when both systems are not at the audited phase yet?

Bc one is open source?

So what if it's open source?   The question is... even if it's open source, do YOU know how secure it is.   BitMessage is still awaiting independent audit themselves like I said.  Even if both are open source, if both have not been audited independently... you don't really know how secure it is.   eg.  there is nothing to quantify against each other.

It's like arguing about who's lawn is greener without a spectrophotometer or... who can throw the ball faster without a calibrated radar gun.

We are just not at the point to ask questions like that yet.

Open source anon software > closed source that claims to be anon.
 

Ya... as if you can read code.    Open source shit is not better than close source...

You are telling me that GIMP is better than Photoshop?

USBcoin was open source... so what?  There was malicious code in there to allow the scamming dev to create fake coins and made over 120 btc from the scam.

Open source codes that aren't maintained and audited by experts all the time are some of the most vunerable because there can be zero day exploit simply because any flaws are immediately seen by black hats while the white hats people are sleeping.

Snapchat, Whatsapp, Line... EVERY SINGLE one of these are not open source.   You think normal people give a crap about it?

People who are serious about anon and into cryptocurrencies.  Yes.  Very much so. 

People who are not serious will buy doge

Ya... people that have money and can move market can't read codes.   They rely on experts review.   Guess what?   XC will have those reviews and bounties post Rev 3. 

You are welcome.

Oh well, one of the open source anon coins was successfully attacked and markets are frozen.

[shanuu]

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Oh well, one of the open source anon coins was successfully attacked and markets are frozen.
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Wich coin you talking about?
I see Monero frozen on poloniex

[reebokasss]

price is stable at 130-135k, if the price will remain stable after rev2 realease, or we will see pump and later wil back to the same level (130-150) like it was some months ago (pump to 310k) so i think we wont rise after rev3.. summary, i see very good news about XC, but trading volume is awful and price arent rising, so i cant understand people who are saying "we will rise 10-20 times from now in some months and bla bla bla"......

[wooder]

Oh well, one of the open source anon coins was successfully attacked and markets are frozen.


Wich coin you talking about?
I see Monero frozen on poloniex

yeah it is monero. but opensource isn't the problem, i mean look at windows, it is closed source and no other os has that much worms/viruses.
i have to admit windows "problem" is also it's market share but not releasing the sources won't help you to be "safe", as everything can be reverse engineered.

"if it runs it can be defeated"
OldRedCracker

 xc will also release the sources some time in future as no one will trust a closed source currency in the long term

[F22Raptor]

the price is so stable and it's a good time to buy more nodes coz i guess the pmup period is coming

[reebokasss]

the price is so stable and it's a good time to buy more nodes coz i guess the pmup period is coming

you are guess... and why do you think that? because rev2 will be realeased and bla bla bla.. till now we had many good news also, and everyone everyday are saying "price will be very high in nearly future.." but price not rising, so its only talkings about price..

[Dungor]

The entire alt-marked is frozen. It won't unfreeze until next BTC pump.
XC will become more than a currency and at that time hopefully will become less affected by BTC price, but for now this is the game.

Also have you noticed that this thread is more negative on EU time and more positive on US time? And silent on Asia time...

[reebokasss]

The entire alt-marked is frozen. It won't unfreeze until next BTC pump.
XC will become more than a currency and at that time hopefully will become less affected by BTC price, but for now this is the game.

Also have you noticed that this thread is more negative on EU time and more positive on US time? And silent on Asia time...

im not negative, im only dont like when everyone are talking about price like this " this will be 10 time higher in one two months and bla bla bla.. "  NO ONE KNOWS WHAT PRICE WILL BE IN FUTURE!

[wooder]

The entire alt-marked is frozen. It won't unfreeze until next BTC pump.
XC will become more than a currency and at that time hopefully will become less affected by BTC price, but for now this is the game.

Also have you noticed that this thread is more negative on EU time and more positive on US time? And silent on Asia time...

when is eu and us time? i mean computer "nerds" are up all night so i wouldn't say - people writing at this time are from us and others are from the eu

and i would say 99% of the bitcointalk people are "nerds"

[hoertest]

The entire alt-marked is frozen. It won't unfreeze until next BTC pump.
XC will become more than a currency and at that time hopefully will become less affected by BTC price, but for now this is the game.

Also have you noticed that this thread is more negative on EU time and more positive on US time? And silent on Asia time...

im not negative, im only dont like when everyone are talking about price like this " this will be 10 time higher in one two months and bla bla bla.. "  NO ONE KNOWS WHAT PRICE WILL BE IN FUTURE!

you're right, of corse no one knows, thats the nature of investing, and thats why there is so much money to be made when you bet on the right horse. People SPECULATE on a coin to do well in the coming days, months years, ... They base their investment decision on factors including technology, market psychology, manpower, experience , cycles, ....
And once people made their decision they articulate it and also their desired outcome. You can not blame them for not nowing if their scenario comes true. If that bothers you you are in the wrong place.

You are right , xc went threw 2 pump cycles and came down to a slitly higher base. could happen again. I think XC will start ( is in)a  bull market not because of a release or a single announcement but just cause of a a steady rise of recognition in the coming weeks. But guess what: I DON'T KNOW. 

[synechist]

So are you folks keen on a bit more info on how Rev 2 works?

Press release coming out soon...