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May 31, 2014, 11:04:48 PM
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So let me get this straight? XC's only proof at anonymity is a youtube video?

A testnet block explorer and Transaction ID of said "Anonymous Transaction" still have not been provided.

Finally the dev has never addressed why he paid loljosh to make the coin. Speaking on that, why is the dev not able to use github? See what I'm implying is: Surely if this great XC dev can make a 100% anonymous currency, he would be able to use github and not pay loljosh to clone a coin.

It finally all fits like puzzle pieces.

The dev paid loljosh .7/.8 btc to make a x11 coin for him, see pics for proof.

Since loljosh made it, that's why the dev didn't use github, see github for proof.

Also why there isn't any shred of evidence of a working anonymity system, see the coin itself for proof.
http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

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MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.





The testnet is functioning as it should the last block has been found literally 2 seconds ago, your theory isn't true, I am afraid.

Read the above comment please, your coin, XC, is not trustless, aka, your XC can be stolen from the true dev(loljosh) if he was malicious.

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May 31, 2014, 11:05:00 PM
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XC testnet blockexplorer seems to be up again, for those interested: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

now the trolls are quiet because they can't think of anything else, than wrong code etc. this pretty much confirms the code is real.
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May 31, 2014, 11:07:00 PM
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So let me get this straight? XC's only proof at anonymity is a youtube video?

A testnet block explorer and Transaction ID of said "Anonymous Transaction" still have not been provided.

Finally the dev has never addressed why he paid loljosh to make the coin. Speaking on that, why is the dev not able to use github? See what I'm implying is: Surely if this great XC dev can make a 100% anonymous currency, he would be able to use github and not pay loljosh to clone a coin.

It finally all fits like puzzle pieces.

The dev paid loljosh .7/.8 btc to make a x11 coin for him, see pics for proof.

Since loljosh made it, that's why the dev didn't use github, see github for proof.

Also why there isn't any shred of evidence of a working anonymity system, see the coin itself for proof.
http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

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MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.





The testnet is functioning as it should the last block has been found literally 2 seconds ago, your theory isn't true, I am afraid.

Read the above comment please, your coin, XC, is not trustless, aka, your XC can be stolen from the true dev(loljosh) if he was malicious.

Good luck with being a DRK bagholder sir, I won't discuss interesting matters with an ignorant troll.
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May 31, 2014, 11:10:41 PM
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So let me get this straight? XC's only proof at anonymity is a youtube video?

A testnet block explorer and Transaction ID of said "Anonymous Transaction" still have not been provided.

Finally the dev has never addressed why he paid loljosh to make the coin. Speaking on that, why is the dev not able to use github? See what I'm implying is: Surely if this great XC dev can make a 100% anonymous currency, he would be able to use github and not pay loljosh to clone a coin.

It finally all fits like puzzle pieces.

The dev paid loljosh .7/.8 btc to make a x11 coin for him, see pics for proof.

Since loljosh made it, that's why the dev didn't use github, see github for proof.

Also why there isn't any shred of evidence of a working anonymity system, see the coin itself for proof.
http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

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More Random FUD

MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.





The testnet is functioning as it should the last block has been found literally 2 seconds ago, your theory isn't true, I am afraid.

Read the above comment please, your coin, XC, is not trustless, aka, your XC can be stolen from the true dev(loljosh) if he was malicious.

Good luck with being a DRK bagholder sir, I won't discuss interesting matters with an ignorant troll.

Ok, goodluck with you as well, I hope your XC will not be stolen by the dev since it's not a trustless system, but goodluck.

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May 31, 2014, 11:11:15 PM
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You guys want my conspiracy theory?

Wallet is supposed to be released tomorrow

Either it will and you guys can insult me

OR: The dev just split and moved his premine today or yesterday in the name of the POS, which can be true, but the timing is interesting.

Maybe he just moved them into different exchanges and had to find a justification to do so without causing a panic, and is about to dump it all.

I guess we'll know tomorrow.

I hope I'm wrong and a stupid moron
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May 31, 2014, 11:11:44 PM
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XC testnet blockexplorer seems to be up again, for those interested: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

now the trolls are quiet because they can't think of anything else, than wrong code etc. this pretty much confirms the code is real.

Hey Phil, I already posted this in the self moderated thread but I'll post it here as well.
Can you provide the Transaction ID of the "anonymous" Youtube video transaction? Just want to check to make sure it coincides with the blockchain.
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XC testnet blockexplorer seems to be up again, for those interested: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

now the trolls are quiet because they can't think of anything else, than wrong code etc. this pretty much confirms the code is real.

Hey Phil, I already posted this in the self moderated thread but I'll post it here as well.
Can you provide the Transaction ID of the "anonymous" Youtube video transaction? Just want to check to make sure it coincides with the blockchain.

http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

Transaction from youtube video.

sent to address was:
msJQ   something.  you can see that in the video and I cannot find it in my wallet?  Smiley  I had to look at the video.


Sent from was:
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85



quick edit:  I have not had the opportunity to examine this in the block explorer, so let me know what is found.

^ see above
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June 01, 2014, 12:26:55 AM
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XC testnet blockexplorer seems to be up again, for those interested: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

now the trolls are quiet because they can't think of anything else, than wrong code etc. this pretty much confirms the code is real.

Hey Phil, I already posted this in the self moderated thread but I'll post it here as well.
Can you provide the Transaction ID of the "anonymous" Youtube video transaction? Just want to check to make sure it coincides with the blockchain.

http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

Transaction from youtube video.

sent to address was:
msJQ   something.  you can see that in the video and I cannot find it in my wallet?  Smiley  I had to look at the video.


Sent from was:
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85



quick edit:  I have not had the opportunity to examine this in the block explorer, so let me know what is found.

^ see above

Thanks. Tried to mess around in the block explorer. It times out and displays "page cannot be displayed" error.
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June 01, 2014, 12:29:24 AM
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#XC Anon proof on testnet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

Testnet block explorer: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

TX from video: http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.
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edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.
Thank you - that's the best lol I've had all day. Grin

It's probably just interference from all the tinfoil you're wearing.

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edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.
Thank you - that's the best lol I've had all day. Grin

It's probably just interference from all the tinfoil you're wearing.

That's possible too. Wink
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edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.
Thank you - that's the best lol I've had all day. Grin

It's probably just interference from all the tinfoil you're wearing.

That's possible too. Wink

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June 01, 2014, 01:05:38 AM
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^ seems to be working now
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No, I just checked...it's Still down.....

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June 01, 2014, 01:11:24 AM
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Yeah, our Sith-troll-botnet-puppeteers were on a tea break before, sorry about that. They're back on the case now. Wink

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June 01, 2014, 01:14:37 AM
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I am able to open them.  I just tried both
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June 01, 2014, 01:15:55 AM
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Now it's up. I tried a few hours ago and just now(minutes ago) and it was down, loading continuously without showing the page.

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June 01, 2014, 08:47:57 AM
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Now it's up.
Was everything in order?
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June 01, 2014, 08:55:45 AM
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Now it's up.
Was everything in order?

More Random FUD

MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.



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June 01, 2014, 11:20:39 AM
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Now it's up.
Was everything in order?

=> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7063848#msg7063848
=> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7064008#msg7064008
=> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7064610#msg7064610

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