Unmoderated XC thread

[battbot]

#XC Anon proof on testnet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

Testnet block explorer: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

TX from video: http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.

[TsuyokuNaritai]

edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.

Thank you - that's the best lol I've had all day.

It's probably just interference from all the tinfoil you're wearing.

[battbot]

edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.

Thank you - that's the best lol I've had all day.

It's probably just interference from all the tinfoil you're wearing.

That's possible too.

[Joshuar]

edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.

Thank you - that's the best lol I've had all day.

It's probably just interference from all the tinfoil you're wearing.

That's possible too.

 

[battbot]

#XC Anon proof on testnet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

Testnet block explorer: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

TX from video: http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

^ seems to be working now

[Joshuar]

#XC Anon proof on testnet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

Testnet block explorer: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

TX from video: http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

^ seems to be working now

No, I just checked...it's Still down.....

[TsuyokuNaritai]

#XC Anon proof on testnet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

Testnet block explorer: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

TX from video: http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

^ seems to be working now

No, I just checked...it's Still down.....

Yeah, our Sith-troll-botnet-puppeteers were on a tea break before, sorry about that. They're back on the case now.

[battbot]

#XC Anon proof on testnet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

Testnet block explorer: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

TX from video: http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

^ seems to be working now

No, I just checked...it's Still down.....

I am able to open them.  I just tried both

[Joshuar]

#XC Anon proof on testnet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

Testnet block explorer: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

TX from video: http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

^ seems to be working now

No, I just checked...it's Still down.....

I am able to open them.  I just tried both

Now it's up. I tried a few hours ago and just now(minutes ago) and it was down, loading continuously without showing the page.

[adhitthana]

Now it's up.

Was everything in order?

[Joshuar]

Now it's up.

Was everything in order?

More Random FUD

MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.

[AlexGR]

Now it's up.

Was everything in order?

=> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7063848#msg7063848
=> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7064008#msg7064008
=> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7064610#msg7064610

[chaeplin]

Let's find where is mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85


open http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	c9bfdd9b22...:0	0.898795	mqb58nmjXvjy2r9ygpJY3mXLPss5CvBvK5	72:3045...3401 33:03eb...e5bd
1	f1928df7ff...:0	0.969379	moGRQxKg7QGUENPnDeErZjrHbSfuHNSoLu	72:3045...7e01 33:02dc...19b8
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	4f836ad73f...:5	0.696382	mthXNUYbqWBJz91zi1hUiDW4c3CgXDvtVK	DUP HASH160 20:9099...3dd6 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	7f4b06ae9c...:0	1.171772	mzvu2b5Ya4GtFum9vCyvu4MAvLEgnJSsCW	DUP HASH160 20:d4f1...e3ae EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

check input index 0
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/c9bfdd9b227786d4d3f4e8a494459396df0a857ff6913c1b1fb25b3f8b5da724#o0
mqb58nmjXvjy2r9ygpJY3mXLPss5CvBvK5 is output index 0 address

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	44f214d70a...:0	1.28706	n4GrybhCUP4TjoxSeUyo2LjAHhMrrGYjM2	73:3046...ba01 33:021b...f9f3
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	92a7e218f7...:0	0.898795	mqb58nmjXvjy2r9ygpJY3mXLPss5CvBvK5	DUP HASH160 20:6e78...adab EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	e19b31b205...:2	0.388255	mhxd9sDeotkkgoshn31tiCxW7Nhvosuv2j	DUP HASH160 20:1acb...5935 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep checking  input index 0
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/44f214d70a68d5040ecef722fc63c0108e2f5ac2cc8ff21239adb1e0675cdca2#o0
n4GrybhCUP4TjoxSeUyo2LjAHhMrrGYjM2 is ouput index 0 address

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	d14cda6ac8...:1	1.29706	n1aQSA72b8CyaiEiUd1tpqUvrshDxhE3nZ	73:3046...8d01 33:0331...b14c
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	c9bfdd9b22...:0	1.28706	n4GrybhCUP4TjoxSeUyo2LjAHhMrrGYjM2	DUP HASH160 20:f9a0...9f66 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	c934aa1833...:3	0.00999	msEi9uUingF5iAfxaUvkxmyfELRHx5L82X	DUP HASH160 20:808f...914d EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/d14cda6ac80d1e5e2cd4c178447e32ed6ee0089cc673e91c61772d24662c5bfa#o1

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	961378a645...:0	1.49998	mk3brjBq66oZwTZZgeDEdCrbt3FAo5zV6Z	73:3046...1a01 33:029d...c9b0
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	642a962fb0...:0	0.20291	mmadRVHyzV46B7cEozTfoJpcMKfco2FvWN	DUP HASH160 20:4282...08cf EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	44f214d70a...:0	1.29706	n1aQSA72b8CyaiEiUd1tpqUvrshDxhE3nZ	DUP HASH160 20:dc09...caf6 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/961378a6450c24ab7ef021d0a564d3ba943b406d058c4c2f9723a384dba4f93b#o0

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	2d7609d913...:1	4.99999	mie1xHHGxrQnainUPNn5Wtb1662kJy5jMb	72:3045...5e01 33:02a8...a449
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	d14cda6ac8...:0	1.49998	mk3brjBq66oZwTZZgeDEdCrbt3FAo5zV6Z	DUP HASH160 20:31ac...b801 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	Not yet redeemed	3.5	n1kWmCrMx2kbEVS7opoqw7wydAdFQJvnqb	DUP HASH160 20:ddf3...ab59 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/2d7609d9135573b85a0b41995b525fbca9fdddf4a057a0dad2a864f982a04b38#o1

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	9bc6060ab1...:0	187.829376	mgNVZ6Cmpd8S5RGSN34AP7iXWtPs1ofug2	71:3044...4101 33:03a6...87ab
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	54015432e5...:0	182.829376	muNZW6HV2tVyECaRVPSopGQ8VFbX7ezfGi	DUP HASH160 20:97fb...ea84 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	961378a645...:0	4.99999	mie1xHHGxrQnainUPNn5Wtb1662kJy5jMb	DUP HASH160 20:223e...f6b7 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/9bc6060ab1b5979f9bfd8a8a002308dc972fcd3ba0cd597ce6d6961c4130bf15#o0

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	d3268c04e7...:0	199.321159	miDpdLppTFoDxgmQzkz7DGQyYYrJ3D3SiZ	73:3046...a001 33:02d9...1cd3
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	2d7609d913...:0	187.829376	mgNVZ6Cmpd8S5RGSN34AP7iXWtPs1ofug2	DUP HASH160 20:095e...0e55 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	fc89f1b6e1...:0	11.491773	moRnEx9drbUXfzmpWUTj2woMkv1mSTbAYD	DUP HASH160 20:56c6...f2b6 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/d3268c04e7db225d5ce43903c35892d52309a52e60144e10cb52fdf097657627#o0

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	ad278c501a...:0	199.322308	mg7bbY6B1FRxqSk37fTGG2RLMgqCrE4opP	71:3044...4201 33:0367...d234
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	9bc6060ab1...:0	199.321159	miDpdLppTFoDxgmQzkz7DGQyYYrJ3D3SiZ	DUP HASH160 20:1daa...90d1 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	17147e5865...:1	0.001139	mv2P458XzcCC6tnFPhKXJRWUTS9DtyWmPg	DUP HASH160 20:9f22...d787 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/ad278c501a0439a2034e932e3bae2611da2c29e93c4be0f5a20618bb48c45e6d#o0

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	f892704a7b...:0	199.685859	mo6Metdg4mYAGJQWqWeo1YnwgNV2ekMUeh	72:3045...d301 33:0361...92cd
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	d3268c04e7...:0	199.322308	mg7bbY6B1FRxqSk37fTGG2RLMgqCrE4opP	DUP HASH160 20:068d...3d6c EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	f2536b5d81...:2	0.363541	mv2P458XzcCC6tnFPhKXJRWUTS9DtyWmPg	DUP HASH160 20:9f22...d787 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/f892704a7ba5e8b4c55158d73dbd1bca035491c0e9026d13f0551062379cdbf9#o0

Code:

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	099acfd0e9...:1	200	mkDZQWd7aDMWWxwBDwSQ7eLqp1HQmXz4FL	72:3045...d801 33:0373...2595
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	ad278c501a...:0	199.685859	mo6Metdg4mYAGJQWqWeo1YnwgNV2ekMUeh	DUP HASH160 20:531a...6167 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	f2536b5d81...:1	0.314131	mv2P458XzcCC6tnFPhKXJRWUTS9DtyWmPg	DUP HASH160 20:9f22...d787 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/099acfd0e9fb0f13628439ac56f675904eb2ed7ee6f474ff215f3eced47b4599#o1

Code:

Appeared in XCTestnet 1532 (2014-05-30 18:16:50)
Number of inputs: 1 (Jump to inputs)
Total in: 1000
Number of outputs: 2 (Jump to outputs)
Total out: 999.99999
Size: 231 bytes
Fee: 0.00001

Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	365966042d...:1	1000	mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85	73:3046...b301 33:026f...10a2
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	d9b24d42f4...:0	799.99999	mho7xLLwk8B6hGTMbpkXvHNQ3HerZD7B3U	DUP HASH160 20:18fe...4b7a EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	f892704a7b...:0	200	mkDZQWd7aDMWWxwBDwSQ7eLqp1HQmXz4FL	DUP HASH160 20:338e...30ac EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

Oh mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 popup.

mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 has nothing.
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 can send nothing.


Why search mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 in video ??

[chaeplin]

bushstar from feathercoin?

welcome

That's correct. I do a lot of commissioned work to get the bills paid. When launching Feathercoin we learned a lot the hard way and I now spend a lot of time helping teams with their projects. I've helped a fair few teams launch with work complete before launch or assist after launch to secure blockchains, get the required infrastructure in place and so on. I subscribe to the open source ethos which largely seems forgotten in crypto I believe due to the involvement of money. We are all working with open source Bitcoin code, we want diversity to see crypto adapt and evolve. Bitcoin to the most part has to maintain the status quo so it is in alternative crypto currencies where we will see the innovation. If something is a really good idea then as we are in open source others can use it including Bitcoin.

: commissioned work

[qqryq]

Let's find where is mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85

....

Oh mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 popup.

mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 has nothing.
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 can send nothing.

Why search mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 in video ??

So all it takes is a handful of clicks to get to the originating address. That's neither sophisticated or anonymous at all according to the claims made by XC...

[ballzdeep]

Can you show that DRK is anonymous ?

[Alpharisc]

Even setting aside the Anon garbage, this has to be one of the worst POS coins ever created:

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#

Seriously? That's the slowest POS blockchain I have ever seen. Not to mention, endless issues with staking and wallet sync issues. Just terrible. The reason you know loljosh created it is because he also created SYNC, and if you check their thread, they have *exactly the same issues.*

Most POS coins, like BlackCoin for example (or almost any other properly developed POS coin) get a confirmation of a transaction in 10-30 secs. POS blocks are consistently generated in under one minute. Staking is painless. Checkpointing is properly implemented. I don't know what the hell is going on with XC's kludge, but if it can't even sort out this kind of elementary stuff, how the hell do you propose to trust it with some kind of 'paradigm breaking' anon tech?

Red flags all over the place.

Can't believe I invested in this thing. Oh well, out now!

[chaeplin]

Let's find where is mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85

....

Oh mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 popup.

mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 has nothing.
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 can send nothing.

Why search mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 in video ??

So all it takes is a handful of clicks to get to the originating address. That's neither sophisticated or anonymous at all...

Oh you have missed my point, I am not talking sophisticated or anonymous thing.

I show you how to use block explorer.
This analysis start from mixer tx id to past.

How well conceal whois the payee is my concern.

Read my https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7064610#msg7064610
By using mixer real payee is concealed to a certain level.

But prototype design has a pro...

Mixer have to send coin to real payee.

When ? after 2 ~ n block is confirmed.

This time gap is problem.

Rev2 should address this.

[illodin]

I don't know what the hell is going on with XC's kludge, but if it can't even sort out this kind of elementary stuff, how the hell do you propose to trust it with some kind of 'paradigm breaking' anon tech?

Blockchain2.0 is also in development. Is that hard to implement?

http://www.x11coin.org/pages/features/development.html

[blakely]

There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.