Unmoderated XC thread

[toknormal]

Anonymity is not a toy. People trust their lives to anonymity. It must be fool proof, perfect, impervious to years and decades of future scrutiny and attempts at hacks and manipulation. I would argue that cryptography is the single most complex and difficult art to master in all of academia. It is the art of perfect secrecy, perfect trustlessness, elegant in its design and only the most genius of minds are worthy of such an endeavor. The significance of this undertaking cannot be overestimated.

I don't think that clandestine product merchants operating outside of the law are the biggest target market for anonymous coins. If they were, none of them would have anywhere near the value they have right now.

Nor is 100% untraceability the most important thing either. Whatever technology these coins use it has to be accepted that some theoretical element of traceability exists.

What's more important is opaqueness. i.e. your average joe can't look up a blockchain and discover what transactions went through some random address - i.e. practical opaqueness in the financial system.

The reason that is the target market is that that's what people currently expect from the fiat financial system. e.g., if I set up a website to do sales and supply a payment address, people can't easily see what my turnover is on that address.

Absolute secrecy, "hiding from the NSA" and the like is a much lower priority. It might be technical one for some but it isn't such a big commercial one IMO.

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[chaeplin]

for the record.

Is atcsecure still planning on giving an update tonight for future plans as well as more detailed report on xnodes?

Anyone know?

yes, dev posted this earlier.

Sorry but this is going to be fairly brief as I'm exhausted

- Future Plans
     - Finalize Business Plan
     - Identify key market potential opportunities
     - Market analysis for high growth opportunities
     - XC Foundation
     - Structured Corporate Entity
     - Android Wallet

     - Release REV2
  
     - REV2 is a major upgrade to the system, using the existing REV1 code.  It will support a decentralized learning trust system and be not only anonymous but have protection against various attack vectors

     - Post REV2 is Wallet improvements and Working today's the Retail Market Space and Point of Sales and ATM's.  A cost separate analysis will be done on this
         - Wallet Updates to include encrypted IM, encrypted IRC type communications
         - Wallet Updates to support new applications (will update)
          
     - Completing the Android wallet with the Mobile solution mentioned above -

That is the current high level plan, I will create a more formal way to present this and to keep it updated so that is available 24/7

- XNODE

  XNODE is in the wallet, the batch files run it either on mainnet or testnet.  Unfortunately I was not able to complete the testing tonight.  This will happen tomorrow with a basic user guide on how to set it up


ATCSECURE

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint 

What is correct block height ?

[coine_smithe]

Anonymity is not a toy. People trust their lives to anonymity. It must be fool proof, perfect, impervious to years and decades of future scrutiny and attempts at hacks and manipulation. I would argue that cryptography is the single most complex and difficult art to master in all of academia. It is the art of perfect secrecy, perfect trustlessness, elegant in its design and only the most genius of minds are worthy of such an endeavor. The significance of this undertaking cannot be overestimated.

I don't think that clandestine product merchants operating outside of the law are the biggest target market for anonymous coins. If they were, none of them would have anywhere near the value they have right now.

Nor is 100% untraceability the most important thing either. Whatever technology these coins use it has to be accepted that some theoretical element of traceability exists.

What's more important is opaqueness. i.e. your average joe can't look up a blockchain and discover what transactions went through some random address - i.e. practical opaqueness in the financial system.

The reason that is the target market is that that's what people currently expect from the fiat financial system. e.g., if I set up a website to do sales and supply a payment address, people can't easily see what my turnover is on that address.

Absolute secrecy, "hiding from the NSA" and the like is a much lower priority. It might be technical one for some but it isn't such a big commercial one IMO.

I totally agree with you, that's the reason I think this technology is the future. Maybe I sounded like I thought it could only be used for drug deals, etc. but I'm mostly intrigued by the prospect of increasing fungibility for commerce.

[sin242]

for the record.

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint 

What is correct block height ?

Does he list the "sent" address anywhere? i see a couple entries in different places, but without knowing what the originating addy is you obviously cant compare

[phosphorush]

I'm not receiving any rewards for minting XC and yeah I have the new wallet and I have it unlocked...

[chaeplin]

What for risking 0.7 BTC

[Joshuar]

What for risking 0.7 BTC

XC was made by loljosh(who is paid to make alt coins for BTC), which means atsecure(XC "dev") can't code himself, he pays loljosh to do everything for him. Similar to coingen.io


Pic #1(atsecure leaves loljosh a positive comment for great service, the amount of BTC risked/paid is .7


Pic #2(loljosh lists the price of .8 for x11+PoS, which is relatively the same price atsecure paid loljosh when he left him the positive comment, The day after XC was released..

Conclusion: XC was made by loljosh for .7/.8 BTC from atsecure. It's just another clone/copy coin.

[chaeplin]

Happen again!!

Dev has no clue..

[studio1one]

reserved

[SkyValeey]

reserved'

[slapper]

Retort.

[sartech]

waching

[chaeplin]

for the record.

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint 

What is correct block height ?

Does he list the "sent" address anywhere? i see a couple entries in different places, but without knowing what the originating addy is you obviously cant compare

I am waiting white paper.

Something changed for trust system.

How it works is key.

There is pattern.

[stealth923]

for the record.

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

What is correct block height ?

Does he list the "sent" address anywhere? i see a couple entries in different places, but without knowing what the originating addy is you obviously cant compare

I am waiting white paper.

Something changed for trust system.

How it works is key.

There is pattern.

The anonymity has been cracked already??? Has a pattern been found??

[chaeplin]

This x11 rich list 1 and 3.
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?178.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?862.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?79327.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?79069.htm

Constantly split coins.

Why ?

Anyone know about this ?
 

[chaeplin]

for the record.

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

What is correct block height ?

Does he list the "sent" address anywhere? i see a couple entries in different places, but without knowing what the originating addy is you obviously cant compare

I am waiting white paper.

Something changed for trust system.

How it works is key.

There is pattern.

The anonymity has been cracked already??? Has a pattern been found??

I am waiting white paper. That's all.

[nrvkush]

This x11 rich list 1 and 3.
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?178.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?862.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?79327.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?79069.htm

Constantly split coins.

Why ?

Anyone know about this ?
 

one day XC Developer splited PREMIE WALLET  to few lesser to improve staking, which had some issues.
Check premine addresses

im pretty shure its premine

[dragnar]

This x11 rich list 1 and 3.
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?178.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?862.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?79327.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?79069.htm

Constantly split coins.

Why ?

Anyone know about this ?
 

one day XC Developer splited PREMIE WALLET  to few lesser to improve staking, which had some issues.
Check premine addresses

im pretty shure its premine

look on most ritch lists top 3 wallets are mostly xchanges and very bizzy wallets ( after a coin is older ( couple of months ) most block explorers cant even show the transactions on those wallets ( to many transaction failed to load )

[chaeplin]

This x11 rich list 1 and 3.
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?178.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?862.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?79327.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?79069.htm

Constantly split coins.

Why ?

Anyone know about this ?
 

one day XC Developer splited PREMIE WALLET  to few lesser to improve staking, which had some issues.
Check premine addresses

im pretty shure its premine

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg7057964#msg7057964

To help improve staking, I've split up the balance in the premine wallet as thetime to age for coins maybe too large and the net weight goes up and down. I would guess it should even itself over time, as more coins split and stake.  It is much better for the coin to get a lot of small blocks instead of large ones.


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XGgekbiLd5HAnv2iLrA7iZeNrWnDGJ8hbS
XS4QLi6VpQQo79HLkoFBj5YZkn6p6TuLKG


ATCSECURE

Understood, Thanks.

(But not like pre minined address)

[dragnar]

could some one tell me witch one of u owns 10% of all DRK coins ?

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?277224.htm <