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Yea dude, lets fork from a decentralised system to a centralised system, whoop de doooo.
You're very confused. Do you understand what centralized and decentralized means? Yes. So please explain in detail how the DRK system doesn't use master nodes, a semi-centralised authority. No. Please explain in detail how the XC system doesn't use xnodes, a semi-centralised authority. Xnodes don't require 17 BTC to run
Only reason why xnode doesn't require 17 BTC is because xc is worthless. If it 10x or 100x in value then it's gonna be just as "expensive". The code is also out in the open, unlike DRK. How much less decentralised can you get than closed source? You keep posting here about XCs latest source not being available yet but when has DRKs?
Contradicting yourself much? Xnode source is not out in the open. they don't require a setup on a separate server with their own security to operate safely.
XC requires dedicated nodes to operate at all. Would you rather run your distributed app on hundreds or even thousands of dedicated servers with gigabit connections or on average Joes' laptops running on wi-fi connections? Btw, drk's masternode payments solve the problem that is very real even in bitcoin, which is that not many people are willing to run nodes because there is no incentive. And why do you think Evan hasn't released the DRK source?
Because otherwise we'd have tens of drk clones by now copy-pasted by clueless devs and people losing their monies in them. Closed source = decentralised.
So xc is decentralised by your definition then. Enjoy.
You're welcome. Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you? https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COINXNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code. Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple' He's out of his depth and scared. And of course he should be scared of clones, other teams would do a better job at creating a clone than he will creating the original. XC already has its clones and they are miles behind. It's the advantage of having a qualified Dev, it doesn't matter who else has your code aslong as your a better coder. With Evan there are a hundred better coders in the altcoin space. With dan I'm struggling to think of even one And nope, comparing market caps, XC nodes cost ten time less. And of course you wouldn't want them run on a small ammount of professionally run servers, you want to spread the load as much as possible to stop a small amount of nodes cracking the paths. You can keep thinking these limiting factors are advantages but they are not. They are characteristics of a seriously outdated system. Enjoy again.
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stealth923
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June 19, 2014, 06:39:28 AM |
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Yea dude, lets fork from a decentralised system to a centralised system, whoop de doooo.
You're very confused. Do you understand what centralized and decentralized means? Yes. So please explain in detail how the DRK system doesn't use master nodes, a semi-centralised authority. No. Please explain in detail how the XC system doesn't use xnodes, a semi-centralised authority. Xnodes don't require 17 BTC to run
Only reason why xnode doesn't require 17 BTC is because xc is worthless. If it 10x or 100x in value then it's gonna be just as "expensive". The code is also out in the open, unlike DRK. How much less decentralised can you get than closed source? You keep posting here about XCs latest source not being available yet but when has DRKs?
Contradicting yourself much? Xnode source is not out in the open. they don't require a setup on a separate server with their own security to operate safely.
XC requires dedicated nodes to operate at all. Would you rather run your distributed app on hundreds or even thousands of dedicated servers with gigabit connections or on average Joes' laptops running on wi-fi connections? Btw, drk's masternode payments solve the problem that is very real even in bitcoin, which is that not many people are willing to run nodes because there is no incentive. And why do you think Evan hasn't released the DRK source?
Because otherwise we'd have tens of drk clones by now copy-pasted by clueless devs and people losing their monies in them. Closed source = decentralised.
So xc is decentralised by your definition then. Enjoy.
You're welcome. Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you? https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COINXNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code. Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple' He's out of his depth and scared. And of course he should be scared of clones, other teams would do a better job at creating a clone than he will creating the original. XC already has its clones and they are miles behind. It's the advantage of having a qualified Dev, it doesn't matter who else has your code aslong as your a better coder. With Evan there are a hundred better coders in the altcoin space. With dan I'm struggling to think of even one And nope, comparing market caps, XC nodes cost ten time less. And of course you wouldn't want them run on a small ammount of professionally run servers, you want to spread the load as much as possible to stop a small amount of nodes cracking the paths. You can keep thinking these limiting factors are advantages but they are not. They are characteristics of a seriously outdated system. Enjoy again. I guess you were not around when the entire community was laughing at the XC dev as he didnt know how to use github properly. Also that the PoS component of your coin was outsourced to loljosh as he was most probably out of his league. Also you forget that your coin's algorithm was created by Darkcoin dev (x11) and was subsequently named after it. And yes XC is worthless
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illodin
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June 19, 2014, 06:41:06 AM |
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Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you? https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COINXNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code. Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple' https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoinThere. Source of Darkcoin. You can stop breathing from your mouth. I'm struggling to think
Finally I agree with you on something.
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Mwalshe89
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June 19, 2014, 06:45:04 AM |
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Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you? https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COINXNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code. Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple' https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoinThere. Source of Darkcoin. You can stop breathing from your mouth. Lol. Nice try. Where is darksend??? The entire basis of your mixing. CLOSED SOURCE. Mixing doesn't get more centralised than that.
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June 19, 2014, 06:47:19 AM |
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When will the FUD start for rev2 ?
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stealth923
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June 19, 2014, 06:49:26 AM |
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Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you? https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COINXNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code. Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple' https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoinThere. Source of Darkcoin. You can stop breathing from your mouth. Lol. Nice try. Where is darksend??? The entire basis of your mixing. CLOSED SOURCE. Mixing doesn't get more centralised than that. And when it gets opened sourced after its been verified by community leaders - then what ammo will you have. The development schedule has already been outlined. RC3 --> RC4 --> RC5 --> Opensource. If you dont understand how software development lifecycle works then id suggest you keep quiet.
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Mwalshe89
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June 19, 2014, 06:50:33 AM |
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When will the FUD start for rev2 ? There won't be any FUD. XC will have the most complete solution by a mile. All there current arguments go flying out the window with Rev 2.
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Mwalshe89
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June 19, 2014, 06:53:18 AM |
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Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you? https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COINXNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code. Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple' https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoinThere. Source of Darkcoin. You can stop breathing from your mouth. Lol. Nice try. Where is darksend??? The entire basis of your mixing. CLOSED SOURCE. Mixing doesn't get more centralised than that. And when it gets opened sourced after its been verified by community leaders - then what ammo will you have. The development schedule has already been outlined. RC3 --> RC4 --> RC5 --> Opensource. If you dont understand how software development lifecycle works then id suggest you keep quiet. Lol. And how long is that going to take? Six months? A year? Why not just publish it now? False promises. Just like that masternodes would be up and running correctly a month ago. And they pushed the date back for over a month for a 'simple' fix? Excuse after excuse. By the time your source gets released, if it ever does, pretty much all the competition is going to be miles ahead of you.
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studio1one
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June 19, 2014, 06:53:46 AM |
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You are like a bunch of children in the playground. Very few people on this thread, supporters of XC or the opposite come out with any credit at all.
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June 19, 2014, 07:02:03 AM |
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When will the FUD start for rev2 ? There won't be any FUD. XC will have the most complete solution by a mile. All there current arguments go flying out the window with Rev 2. I hope you are right but there will be FUD even after Rev 2. I hold XC and i dont see an increase in number of people who hold XC which makes me nervous. Also the top 100 rich list scares me.
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Mwalshe89
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June 19, 2014, 07:07:32 AM |
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When will the FUD start for rev2 ? There won't be any FUD. XC will have the most complete solution by a mile. All there current arguments go flying out the window with Rev 2. I hope you are right but there will be FUD even after Rev 2. I hold XC and i dont see an increase in number of people who hold XC which makes me nervous. Also the top 100 rich list scares me. The top 100 rich list is going to get worse and worse for a few weeks, all the whales are stockpiling. They know how much of a future this coin has, especially when the complete solution is out after Rev 2 I mean, it's currently worth 1/10th of DRK. If that's not reason enough to stockpile I don't know what is. The only advantage DRK has is the media exposure. But XC have hired a media manager. Once the media gets out those market caps will converge and closed source DRK with its incapable Dev will begin to fall as the media turns towards their competitors. I'm going to love watching the DRK thread turn to shit when that happens. And if things continue down the paths they are going, it's inevitable
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June 19, 2014, 07:11:28 AM |
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LMAO Media Manager?
Can you ask what is up with premine? What is the name X11 ? Why no difficulty retarget? Why fake hash rates? Why 4 github repo deletes ? Does anyone trust total coin supply after deletes?
GO ahead with these first. Keep reselling to each other. Fucking loljosh fedorapawns.
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June 19, 2014, 07:16:51 AM |
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Its so easy to identify FUDers just by checking last posts of the person.
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June 19, 2014, 07:24:48 AM |
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Its so easy to identify FUDers just by checking last posts of the person.
Wait was that for me? Try to find answers to my question. I am not going to post it in your moderated thread. You do know the questions are not created out of thin air right? Also hate DRK ? It's ok. It is not for everyone and it is understandable. Still time to get on XMR: Last: 0.00518 CRYPT Last: 0.0019768 BBR Last: 0.00205
Market already told you what is wrong with your coin. All you will end up is losing money and pissing on DRK.
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June 19, 2014, 07:29:58 AM |
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XC believers just enjoy the FUD guys. No coin is perfect when it started
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June 19, 2014, 07:34:04 AM |
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Great haha. Enjoy the sell walls that will come on a regular basis too. Oh don't forget, it is some "DRK whale deliberately trying to keep you down"
LMAO. The mindfuck is amazing on this coin. Second to none.
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June 19, 2014, 07:40:44 AM |
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Great haha. Enjoy the sell walls that will come on a regular basis too. Oh don't forget, it is some "DRK whale deliberately trying to keep you down"
LMAO. The mindfuck is amazing on this coin. Second to none.
Not sure why people still on this coin.
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June 19, 2014, 09:37:40 AM |
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Lol. And how long is that going to take? Six months? A year? Why not just publish it now? False promises. Just like that masternodes would be up and running correctly a month ago. And they pushed the date back for over a month for a 'simple' fix? Excuse after excuse. By the time your source gets released, if it ever does, pretty much all the competition is going to be miles ahead of you.
I assume you don't have development experience. Even though you can extrapolate your general knowledge to development: doing something new always requires more time than planned initially, no matter how much time you reserve for unpredictable problems.
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June 19, 2014, 09:54:13 AM |
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Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you? https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COINXNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code. Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple' https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoinThere. Source of Darkcoin. You can stop breathing from your mouth. Lol. Nice try. Where is darksend??? The entire basis of your mixing. CLOSED SOURCE. Mixing doesn't get more centralised than that. You asked for DRKs source (DRK = Darkcoin), and there it is. If you wanted DarkSend's code, then I'm sorry, you will need to wait for a little longer before you get to copy-paste it. Btw, current xnode code is closed source as well. I'm going to love watching the DRK thread turn to shit when that happens. And if things continue down the paths they are going, it's inevitable
Oh that's nice of you. When XC turned to shit I didn't love it, I genuinely felt sad for some people, especially one guy who said he invested 50 BTC and the other guy with prostate cancer. You on the other hand though, I wish you are all-in on xc and never invested in drk.
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June 19, 2014, 10:09:15 AM |
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Shit thrown @ Evan: He's out of his depth and scared. And of course he should be scared of clones, other teams would do a better job at creating a clone than he will creating the original. XC already has its clones and they are miles behind. It's the advantage of having a qualified Dev, it doesn't matter who else has your code aslong as your a better coder. With Evan there are a hundred better coders in the altcoin space. With dan I'm struggling to think of even one
Once the media gets out those market caps will converge and closed source DRK with its incapable Dev will begin to fall as the media turns towards their competitors.
So... if Evan is so "incapable", and if there are "hundreds of better coders" in altcoins, I ask you this: 1. What have these coders coded in terms of anonymity? Oh yes, nothing. 2. Why is everybody waiting for Evan to opensource? Oh yes, because they can't code shit. 3. What did those hundreds of better coders do when their coins were affected by KGW-time warp? Oh yes, they did nothing except wait for someone else to find a solution. Someone like Evan. 4. What is the typical target market of ...loljosh? 5. Why is XC copying the model of nodes and services from DRK? 6. Why wasn't XC's competent dev aware of the fundamental flaw of his design that took away the trust-less element of the Bitcoin protocol, turning Satoshi's innovation and turning it back into trusted transactions - despite being repeatedly told about this? Btw, you have borderline hate issues with Evan and this is NOT healthy. I mean ok, we are waving our dicks in terms of who's got the better coin, but what are you writing is really problematic. Evan is trying to make something and he may fail 100 times until he gets it right. Like Edisson who discovered 1000 ways of how not to make a light bulb, until he made it. Who cares? The fudders? "Ohhh he forked the coin because the payments failed"... yeah well Bitcoin core devs forked Bitcoin without even introducing something as radical as a change to the protocol itself, like masternode payments. So by the same definition perhaps they are even more incompetent than Evan and, by extension, even more incompetent than all those hundreds of "better coders" that exist in altcoins. In conclusion I'll say this: The primary DRK buyer (the one who has a very large stake at DRK) is also the primary XC buyer who diversified into XC. Given that the future of small investors in DRK and XC is intertwined with the trust of the primary buyer to both these coins, it should be best for us (both) if we stopped hurting the primary buyer, and by extension our own investments. Neither solution is perfect, both will have a long way to go until they solve their problems, so let's wait and see what they do tech-wise in say 2-3 months.
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