[ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA

[btcgoldsilver]

If Alty doesn't want a PR man thats his call I think we should respect that. He's the main man afterall. After suggesting it yesterday I later had doubts about the idea myself. Imagine one of the sharks gets into that position, abuse of power that could incur. In meantime I suggest people sell if they feel Cloak is finished, buy cheap cloak if you think its just getting started or what I'm doing, just be patient.

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[Darth0ne]

In response to the constant talk of bad PR and bad management etc etc.

You can go round and round talking about things all day long, this isn't right or that isn't right but it doesn't change a single thing because actions speak louder than words.

I'll be more active once Cecil is here but until then... it's just wasted energy.

what is Cecil? what does it stand for?

[tempus]

In response to the constant talk of bad PR and bad management etc etc.

You can go round and round talking about things all day long, this isn't right or that isn't right but it doesn't change a single thing because actions speak louder than words.

I'll be more active once Cecil is here but until then... it's just wasted energy.

what is Cecil? what does it stand for?

Alty Q-As:

5: Well, the purpose of CECIL initially is to allow us to script together Ring Escrow and One Market by adding custom op codes so we don't have to hack together really complicated scripts from the basic op codes available but, since we are in there doing that anyway, it makes sense to add a couple more capabilities and then see what people come up. One of the most obvious things a community member could set up would be some sort of anonymous betting.

http://www.cloaktalk.org/t/cloak-development-q-a/275/11

[Darth0ne]

If Alty doesn't want a PR man thats his call I think we should respect that. He's the main man afterall. After suggesting it yesterday I later had doubts about the idea myself. Imagine one of the sharks gets into that position, abuse of power that could incur. In meantime I suggest people sell if they feel Cloak is finished, buy cheap cloak if you think its just getting started or what I'm doing, just be patient.

waht is this gibberish you're spouting..??

Alty is the PR guy.

And alty is not a coder. He is not a 'dev'. He is a pr guy. He coordinates the project. He should be more vocal.

And I thought clustercoin was a clusterfuck. Seems like Cloak is becoming the new clusterfuck coin of the month.

VPN, oh my god. that is so groundbreaking. I'm gonna throw 10K btc at cloak now because they have a VPN!  

I feel bad for anyone who did not listen to me when I called the end of this coin a few months back. If there was just a better way to pick right and profit...

Hummm..

hmm how come i didnt hear aboout this "end of cloak" ?

Bob wants you to pay him before he shares.

oh, that's right...

i almost half considered it too.. giving bob some money to join his club.

sad thing is, it woulda payed off to have payed off Bob, just to know about the dump in advance.



I still believe in Cloak.. but I really coulda used $14,000+ USD i coulda have gotten for my Cloak.
that woulda got me out of debt, got my car back, oh well..

You must have missed it. But I was vocal once I realized that cloak had no future.

That is.. quite possible.

I remember it was way up, and I left town for a day or so, and when I came back CLOAK had begun it's crash.. i couldn't justify selling so "cheap" after seeing the ATH.. but it just kept dropping...
                                                                          and dropping....

eventually i had to sell those coins just to pay some basic bills.. that is all they could cover at that point.

[btcspender]

I just figured it was a good idea to take a load off Alty, one thing less he has to worry about. For starters someone could be given access to moderation of this thread Alty shouldn't have to waste time with that. As suggested earlier anyone who wants to put their name forward for anything realizes some collateral goes in escrow for insurance. I'm sure Alty could use someone to delegate things to e.g thread moderation, answering minor queries.

Anyway I'm only here because I support the coin and the devs, I'm not here to criticize, just offering a few thing I think may benefit the coin and the community. I actually am not too fussed about the delay never really was, I posted not long after it telling people to chill out,I did think there was a mess up with communication but that's life nothing ever goes perfectly smooth. I think a PR team would just be a natural progression from the marketing team, as the coin gets bigger more people will be needed to take on roles, I see Alty as the leader of that team and he can just delegate to his minions. As is the nature of crypto it literally never sleeps, cloak will need people in all timezones handling different roles if it really takes off.

[btcspender]

As some were interested in my current work on my trading suite: I'm doing some good progress (although it's still in its very, very early stage); started some frontend work recently to check out how the backend performs. I found AmCharts to be the best JavaScript charting/plotting lib; free for personal use plus a commercial license available.
Although the cloak graphs look quite depressing, heh.



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Resized preview picture.

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Some details:

• TYPO3.Flow application (as TYPO3 is quite uncommon in the US (people tend to use Drupal more, I guess): it's a content management system, and TYPO3.Flow is a framework. TYPO3.Flow is to PHP what Rails is to Ruby, to put it simple)
• OOP/MVC coded backend which provides business logic, database connection, API calls etc
• separate frontend which communicates with the backend

Planned features:

• automated trading
• technical analysis with different (maybe subscribable, not sure yet) trading strategies and alerts if events occured which are a clear signal to whatever trading strategy
• way more graphs and charts: trading time, volume and price (and maybe some other factors) should be set into relation to kind of get an automated overview, such as e.g. "those famous 177 orders appeared again, get ready for the waves", although I'm not sure if that's a realistic target... short: it should show information about the market which we don't see in the charts on the exchanges
• notifications (maybe via email) on big price movements

Currently, I'm trying to wrap my head around a possible solution for the API key problem. If others ever get to use this application, I definitely don't want to handle their API keys on  my server. Although I'm quite used to handling GNU/Linux servers (due to my work), there is always someone who has better skills. And explaining to people why their accounts are emptied is the last thing I want to do. Ever.

I would be interested in that, as I'm sure would many others.

[yogibaer]

As some were interested in my current work on my trading suite: I'm doing some good progress (although it's still in its very, very early stage); started some frontend work recently to check out how the backend performs. I found AmCharts to be the best JavaScript charting/plotting lib; free for personal use plus a commercial license available.
Although the cloak graphs look quite depressing, heh.



.edit:
Resized preview picture.

.edit2:

Some details:

• TYPO3.Flow application (as TYPO3 is quite uncommon in the US (people tend to use Drupal more, I guess): it's a content management system, and TYPO3.Flow is a framework. TYPO3.Flow is to PHP what Rails is to Ruby, to put it simple)
• OOP/MVC coded backend which provides business logic, database connection, API calls etc
• separate frontend which communicates with the backend

Planned features:

• automated trading
• technical analysis with different (maybe subscribable, not sure yet) trading strategies and alerts if events occured which are a clear signal to whatever trading strategy
• way more graphs and charts: trading time, volume and price (and maybe some other factors) should be set into relation to kind of get an automated overview, such as e.g. "those famous 177 orders appeared again, get ready for the waves", although I'm not sure if that's a realistic target... short: it should show information about the market which we don't see in the charts on the exchanges
• notifications (maybe via email) on big price movements

Currently, I'm trying to wrap my head around a possible solution for the API key problem. If others ever get to use this application, I definitely don't want to handle their API keys on  my server. Although I'm quite used to handling GNU/Linux servers (due to my work), there is always someone who has better skills. And explaining to people why their accounts are emptied is the last thing I want to do. Ever.

awesome work! I like it !

[allyouracid]

As some were interested in my current work on my trading suite: I'm doing some good progress (although it's still in its very, very early stage); started some frontend work recently to check out how the backend performs. I found AmCharts to be the best JavaScript charting/plotting lib; free for personal use plus a commercial license available.
Although the cloak graphs look quite depressing, heh.



.edit:
Resized preview picture.

.edit2:

Some details:

• TYPO3.Flow application (as TYPO3 is quite uncommon in the US (people tend to use Drupal more, I guess): it's a content management system, and TYPO3.Flow is a framework. TYPO3.Flow is to PHP what Rails is to Ruby, to put it simple)
• OOP/MVC coded backend which provides business logic, database connection, API calls etc
• separate frontend which communicates with the backend

Planned features:

• automated trading
• technical analysis with different (maybe subscribable, not sure yet) trading strategies and alerts if events occured which are a clear signal to whatever trading strategy
• way more graphs and charts: trading time, volume and price (and maybe some other factors) should be set into relation to kind of get an automated overview, such as e.g. "those famous 177 orders appeared again, get ready for the waves", although I'm not sure if that's a realistic target... short: it should show information about the market which we don't see in the charts on the exchanges
• notifications (maybe via email) on big price movements

Currently, I'm trying to wrap my head around a possible solution for the API key problem. If others ever get to use this application, I definitely don't want to handle their API keys on  my server. Although I'm quite used to handling GNU/Linux servers (due to my work), there is always someone who has better skills. And explaining to people why their accounts are emptied is the last thing I want to do. Ever.

awesome work! I like it !

I would be interested in that, as I'm sure would many others.

Heh, thank you. Nice to see there is interest. But I cannot stress it enough: it's still in a very early stage of development - often, it doesn't look like that if basic UI is already implemented.
What's working right now:

• Cryptsy API implemented completely (Bittrex, Mintpal, BTCe and maybe crypto-trade to follow)
• fetching API data and storing prices (atm only for cloak for testing purposes) in database for analyzing historical data (API only gives something like the last 1000 trades back, which is about half a day, depending on trade activity)
• first complex trading strategy implemented, using 5 SMAs (later: EMAs) and RSI
• began writing my JavaScript library for trend indicators, most important ones are done
• listing my open trades (sort- and searchable, a feature I'm missing very much e.g. on Cryptsy), option to delete (all or single) plus edit (remove and re-add) will be implemented this evening, I think

Next step is the implementation of security layer/user accounts

Nevertheless, I think it'll take at least some months to complete, as I'm developing alone, next to my everyday job.
Also, you will be able to see my full name, address/general contact data and everything an honest website has to deliver by law at any time (either on the website or by checking the domain record). Another point which I find highly annoying that people already had to get used to most services not offering their customers a way to find out who they're actually doing business with. A "normal" website not offering those details would be recognized as shady; not sure why in crypto we got that much used to it.


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Formatted post a bit for improved readability.
Also, I think, I'll open a separate thread as soon as this thing (current working title is "BitShit" ^^) moved towards a somewhat usable direction, so I can maybe get some ideas from the community regarding what might be useful to implement.

[YourMother]

mintpal down for anyone else?

Yes, i just received a message from the technical support team. They told me that the shitcoin cloak crashed their servers. It had something to do with the level of dumpage that the coin suffered. Everything is now working fine and dandy though....

[allyouracid]

mintpal down for anyone else?

Yes, i just received a message from the technical support team. They told me that the shitcoin cloak crashed their servers. It had something to do with the level of dumpage that the coin suffered. Everything is now working fine and dandy though....

Hey buddy, how's the weather?

[raizor]

Impressive stuff, allyouracid! I really wish the exchanges would make historical data available, even for a nominal fee. It looks good though, I'll be interested to follow its progress

[allyouracid]

Impressive stuff, allyouracid! I really wish the exchanges would make historical data available, even for a nominal fee. It looks good though, I'll be interested to follow its progress

Hey,

thank you for your kind words. One potential problem I see is the sheer amount of data which might add up after time. I cannot estimate how much that will be in the database. But for the moment, I'm coding locally with an Apache/MySQL webserver/database on my notebook, and I store data from one coin (development phase... no need to add more, yet) and only the open/close/high/low of every full hour to prevent me running out of disk space.

However, Cryptsy has way more than 100 coins in their exchange, so I'm awaiting the data collection testing phase with agony and fear. ^^

Today, I did some frontend work and I partially implemented a user settings view and a view for trading with different options which are not provided by the exchanges. It already displays real data, but next time I get into JavaScript Wizard Mode, I'll have to provide the functionality which does all the magic.

Here is another screenshot; it'll be the last one here. I'll open up a thread soon (this weekend, maybe), but I have to spend some time with my wife first. She's a bit mad because she thinks I'm spending too much time on the computer. Well, actually, she's right. Kind of.

Click here for the image; I can't get this forum software to display the thumbnail of the screenshot
I see, I have to open a separate thread, as I don't want to hijack this one or people getting annoyed.

[erok]

waht is this gibberish you're spouting..??

Alty is the PR guy.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... OMG ROFLCOPTERS ALL OVER THE UNIVERSE! LOL. That was the best joke I have heard all day. Thank you for that.

[allyouracid]

mintpal down for anyone else?

Yes, i just received a message from the technical support team. They told me that the shitcoin cloak crashed their servers. It had something to do with the level of dumpage that the coin suffered. Everything is now working fine and dandy though....

Ok, thanks for the info!

... he did not really get a message, he was just being cynical.

[starblocks]

In response to Kωνσταντινoύπoλις talk of AAA and the worm etc etc.

You can go do whatever you want really, this is right and that isn't right but it doesn't blow me because you want to put a clock in the wrong place

I'll be more attentive once we've got our botox shipments but until then... it's just wasted time.

what is Cecil? what does it stand for?

[Bobsurplus]

So hows cloak doing guys?

[cointrader83]

So hows cloak doing guys?

They development is on way. Patience!

[dayandnight]

people need patience and dev is working hard.I thought it is a hard time but it is a good time to buy more

[merc84]

people need patience and dev is working hard.I thought it is a hard time but it is a good time to buy more

Yep hard at work in between 5days off...

[LiberyOrDeath]

This thread is quiet, the CLOAK price is steady around 31-32 k.

The calm before the storm.

Let's see what the future brings.