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March 03, 2015, 01:29:30 PM
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Make the spreadsheet of the report being publicly please Wink
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March 03, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
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@thecoinwizard,





whether the logo is worked on now or not has absolutely ZERO effect on launch of nem or launch of mobile app. two/three completely separate groups of people are working on these things with zero overlap. so the logo can in no way shape or form, affect when the other two will be released.



launch should be soon.. logo has no effect on launch at all.. if you dont want to change the logo, just vote for current..
Thanks for explaining kodtycoon,
I think I will skip the vote for once, as history shows that it is unlikely to be final, and on top of that I don't care much anymore...
Soon is such a relative term, does that mean within this millennia, century, decade, year, month, week, day, hour or in a few minutes?
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March 03, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
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voted, go globe!!

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March 03, 2015, 01:55:22 PM
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What makes NEM different or special over NXT?
I see NXT has proven to be continuous development progress throughout last year. They are far far better than other CryptoCurrency Developments. Much advanced.

It doesn't mean I'm saying NEM is nothing or offending NEM. I want know how big and faster NEM is in compare to NXT.

If I honestly say right now I have more confidence in NXT than any other CryptoCurrency. I'm new to NEM. Getting to know it bit by bit. Trying to understand where exactly NEM fits and shines.

Hi and welcome :-)  

I would like to speak to a few points that others haven't.  

There are many unique features that are new to NEM, such as:

- first use of Proof-of-Importance (PoI) as a consensus algorithm.  PoS is only what you have.  PoW is just what you do and how much electricity you burn.  But PoI is based on what you have and what you do, except it is not about pointless wastefulness, it is about people that actually use NEM.  In PoS people hoard.  That isn't actually good for a currency.  Currencies need to be live and spent.   In NEM if you are spending and people are spending to you, and all these are the right people (no gaming the system) then you actually help your PoI and thus help yourself.  So in NEM, you win not by hoarding the XEM, but by letting the XEM flow.  This is important with a currency.  In a way, the way you spend and the way people spends with you build your reputation.  PoI can be considered the first ever blockchain based reputation system.  

- first use of eigentrust++ in a cryptocurrency for securing the P2P network  (This allows each node to know if the node next to it is being honest and if not, then not listen to it)

- NEM has an amazing system where the NEM devs have successfully divided the network from the wallets.  This allows remote harvesting that others have mentioned, but it does other things too.  

Let me explain it to you like this.  Have you ever tried to use NXT?  It requires downloading the whole blockchain and that can take a day!  Sometimes it updates and it takes longer or crashes or corrupts.  NEM completely solves that problem.  Say you are at work and you need to make a transaction right now (maybe the price is moving or you need to buy something), with NXT that is impossible.  With NEM a computer that has the latest version of Java installed can then download them NEM file, install NEM, make a new wallet, import your private key, and send the money out all in under two minutes.  Yes, I have tested that and have done it, and this is all on a computer that hasn't ever seen a crypto before.  

And then, after all that is done, you can be a nice guy and let your whole blockchain sync and then support the network and let somebody else that was in your position be able to install NEM and be making transactions in under 2 minutes.  With NEM you have an opportunity to pay it forward.  And all this is completely safe.  The devs have made sure of that.  

- first use of transaction spam protection in a blockchain crypto  (Ripple has transaction spam protection, but NEM has a new technique.  In Ripple spam protection raises the fee price for all people sending on the network.  After the spam stops, the fees for all people go back down.  In NEM the spammers transactions get put in a que and if there really is that much spam, they would eventually time out.  The spammers in NEM can push their transactions through, but they will have to pay more and more fees.  There is also a high fee for people sending low XEM transactions.)


- first crypto with multisig on launch  (NEM’s multisig is way better than Bitcoins.  Think of Bitcoin’s multisig as 1.0 and NEM’s as 2.0 multisig.  At least the way I understand it to be that is because in Bitcoin’s multisig have to coordinate and sign outside of the blockchain, but NEM allows users to sign on their own leisure in their own time because NEM allows people to sign from within the blockchain.  This is the first time that a crypto has had blockchain based signing and it makes multisig a lot more user friendly and less technical.  

- first crypto with an egalitarian distribution to over 1500 individuals

- test-driven development with over 3000 unit tests in the core alone  (As far as we know the is a first in the world of crypto.  This is a very difficult way to write software and will help NEM to be very flexible in the future with a very solid foundational NIS.  It really can't be said just how important this is.  This kind of development is really difficult to do and is basically the type of development that you might find at a multi-million dollar software company, not a volunteer created crypto.)

- 60s block time with low variability due to a 60 block weighted, moving average (BloodyRookie worked on this for a long time.  It is important to have fairly regular and dependable blocktimes in a strong network)

- progressive transaction fees  (most cryptos have a static fee so this is very rarely implemented in a crypto, and again people trying to spam dust will pay much higher fees then a person trying to send one dollar.)

More…… NEM is the first ever platform to my knowledge that has P2P time stamping.  This was developed just for NEM and is a technology that has long been needed in the P2P world, not just crypto currency.  


In summary….. NEM devs are many, they are talented, and they don’t mess around.  


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March 03, 2015, 01:58:21 PM
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just so everyone knows, even though you have to log in(to try and prevent vote spamming) the form saves each vote annon.. so user names are not saved.

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Good idea, lets reopen the logo debate once again, so we have another focus than launching...
btw, when is NEM gonna launch? When can I finally sell of my stake?

Oh Wow!  Everyone please vote

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March 03, 2015, 02:06:34 PM
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March 03, 2015, 02:11:33 PM
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just so everyone knows, even though you have to log in(to try and prevent vote spamming) the form saves each vote annon.. so user names are not saved.

Logos up for voting:




















Good idea, lets reopen the logo debate once again, so we have another focus than launching...
btw, when is NEM gonna launch? When can I finally sell of my stake?

Oh Wow!  Everyone please vote

is this the part where we point out what we see in those ink stains O_o ?
Srsly what are some of those supposed to be ? (I know that they are supposed to be phoenix and angels and what not I just find it utterly absurd)

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March 03, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
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Vote for the current one, i dont see any benefits in this.

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March 03, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
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I think people are entitled to their opinions. But it really feels good to see that we are moving forward. Thanks for work dev team.
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March 03, 2015, 03:32:33 PM
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just so everyone knows, even though you have to log in(to try and prevent vote spamming) the form saves each vote annon.. so user names are not saved.

Logos up for voting:




















Good idea, lets reopen the logo debate once again, so we have another focus than launching...
btw, when is NEM gonna launch? When can I finally sell of my stake?

Oh Wow!  Everyone please vote

is this the part where we point out what we see in those ink stains O_o ?
Srsly what are some of those supposed to be ? (I know that they are supposed to be phoenix and angels and what not I just find it utterly absurd)
seriously... i am ok with the first 3 proposals, no question. no offense but the last 7 have to be a joke. angle and phoenix? i remember someone here said, NEM deserves the best. i didnt know that this means a logo created in paint with some esoteric backround. as i said, no offense, but thats embarrassing.
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March 03, 2015, 03:44:26 PM
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NEM is doing great from the start.
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March 03, 2015, 03:51:10 PM
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Voted for the current logo.

Other logos are really bad.
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March 03, 2015, 03:59:35 PM
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I can live with these, seeing as they honor the previous logo vote and don't deviate too much from the original logo.



This one is also good, but the fact that it's so radically different puts me off - because for me, it disregards the legitimacy of the last vote. Now if they changed that red triangle to the more traditional NEM logo with the NEM colours, that i could certainly live with

Like this:



(You could alternatively remove the orange triangle entirely.)

And yes, a massive no from me for any bird logo. That is territory already taken and with plenty of political/negative connotations associated with it.
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March 03, 2015, 04:22:34 PM
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I'v voted for the current logo.

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March 03, 2015, 04:47:40 PM
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The current radio active logo is the best Wink
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March 03, 2015, 05:28:49 PM
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I vote for current logo as well.
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March 03, 2015, 05:55:57 PM
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The ' bird ' you guys refer to is supposed to be a Phoenix. Now most birds look alike anyway...you know ..wings and feathers and beak and suchlike. Humans tend to look closer at birds to see what type they are. Its likely that these logos of Phoenix's could have their colour changed to say 'fire colour'...dark red ? Now when this happens and given the clue of flames in the design ....they really look like a Phoenix.

The Phoenix is not 'just' a bird. Its a symbol of rebirth and regeneration and in our case it is a powerful symbol of a New Economy arising from the ashes of the old one.

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March 03, 2015, 05:56:18 PM
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Looks good and would not need to change images on vice or on the coins


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March 03, 2015, 06:04:58 PM
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Looks good and would not need to change images on vice or on the coins



Looks like a defunct angel fish to me with a few bites out of it.

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March 03, 2015, 06:44:16 PM
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The ' bird ' you guys refer to is supposed to be a Phoenix. Now most birds look alike anyway...you know ..wings and feathers and beak and suchlike. Humans tend to look closer at birds to see what type they are. Its likely that these logos of Phoenix's could have their colour changed to say 'fire colour'...dark red ? Now when this happens and given the clue of flames in the design ....they really look like a Phoenix.

The Phoenix is not 'just' a bird. Its a symbol of rebirth and regeneration and in our case it is a powerful symbol of a New Economy arising from the ashes of the old one.

There is a Phoenix coin and when the big SilkCoin takeover was going to happen a logo very similar to this one was proposed.

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