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jabo38
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March 10, 2015, 02:39:35 AM |
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Nultidah, all your jumping up and down and screaming and stomping your feet will not get you your NEM candy any faster.
The devs are 100 times more concerned with a clean code than your temper tantrum.
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March 10, 2015, 04:33:49 AM |
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test nemz please
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patmast3r
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March 10, 2015, 07:27:29 AM |
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is there any reason why people are not just ignoreing the latest moron that is infesting this thread ? You can do it people ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If I can, so can you ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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NorrisK
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March 10, 2015, 07:30:27 AM |
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A quick update:
We have been working on preparing the addresses for the NEMESIS block. It seems that a lot of people couldn't figure out how to copy and paste NEM addresses correctly, so invalid addresses will have to redeem post launch.
Here are some interesting stats about the accounts in NEMESIS:
avg post count: 211 avg registered days after NEM start: -64 (meaning registered 64 days before NEM start on avg) avg number of days since last active (from 3/8): 65
For comparison, here are the same stats for sock accounts:
avg sock post count: 5 avg sock registered days after NEM start: 11 avg number of days since socks were last active: 203
The days since active for the non socks are kinda worrying still imo. Did you also correlate the days since active to post count?
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makoto1337
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
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March 10, 2015, 07:34:42 AM |
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A quick update:
We have been working on preparing the addresses for the NEMESIS block. It seems that a lot of people couldn't figure out how to copy and paste NEM addresses correctly, so invalid addresses will have to redeem post launch.
Here are some interesting stats about the accounts in NEMESIS:
avg post count: 211 avg registered days after NEM start: -64 (meaning registered 64 days before NEM start on avg) avg number of days since last active (from 3/8): 65
For comparison, here are the same stats for sock accounts:
avg sock post count: 5 avg sock registered days after NEM start: 11 avg number of days since socks were last active: 203
The days since active for the non socks are kinda worrying still imo. Did you also correlate the days since active to post count? A lot of people just left crypto when BTC was down for so many months. BTT is a ghost town compared to what it used to be.
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makoto1337
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March 10, 2015, 07:38:22 AM |
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A quick update:
We have been working on preparing the addresses for the NEMESIS block. It seems that a lot of people couldn't figure out how to copy and paste NEM addresses correctly, so invalid addresses will have to redeem post launch.
Here are some interesting stats about the accounts in NEMESIS:
avg post count: 211 avg registered days after NEM start: -64 (meaning registered 64 days before NEM start on avg) avg number of days since last active (from 3/8): 65
For comparison, here are the same stats for sock accounts:
avg sock post count: 5 avg sock registered days after NEM start: 11 avg number of days since socks were last active: 203
The days since active for the non socks are kinda worrying still imo. Did you also correlate the days since active to post count? Pearson r for number of posts and days since last active is -0.26, which is significant (p < 0.001). For socks, the correlation is -0.29, which is also significant. The negative correlations show that the more posts you have, the more likely it is that you were recently active.
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NorrisK
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March 10, 2015, 08:16:30 AM |
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Thanks for the numbers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's true many people left, will be interesting to see how many people will ultimately remember their NEM
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patmast3r
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March 10, 2015, 08:24:59 AM |
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Thanks for the numbers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's true many people left, will be interesting to see how many people will ultimately remember their NEM I think we can assume that all people who went through all phases of redemption will remember their NEM. I'm more worried about how many people might have lost their priv-key or somehow messed up redemption.
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Come-from-Beyond
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March 10, 2015, 09:42:50 AM |
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Here are some interesting stats about the accounts in NEMESIS:
avg post count: 211 avg registered days after NEM start: -64 (meaning registered 64 days before NEM start on avg) avg number of days since last active (from 3/8): 65
For comparison, here are the same stats for sock accounts:
avg sock post count: 5 avg sock registered days after NEM start: 11 avg number of days since socks were last active: 203
You can't rely on this because Ripple Giveaway led to a lot of sockpuppet accounts created in advance (because of expectations that another coin will use the same approach). For a better assessment you should do Resource Testing trick which would show how many computers are owned by the remaining accounts. If you get that only 30% accounts own a computer then you could reliably assume that 70% are sockpuppets.
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March 10, 2015, 11:32:03 AM |
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You make it worse with this kind of methods. Do you need accusations like "NEM elite removed accounts that would dilute their share of coins"? Do a cryptographically provable sockpuppet nuking. There are not so many promising coins around, I can't just watch how one of these coins fails from the very beginning. I hope you will follow the advice...
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March 10, 2015, 11:35:51 AM |
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For a better assessment you should do Resource Testing trick which would show how many computers are owned by the remaining accounts. If you get that only 30% accounts own a computer then you could reliably assume that 70% are sockpuppets.
Oh that would be interesting indeed. It can open a whole new can of worms and keep us occupied for the betterpart of 2015, but i would vote for that action.
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March 10, 2015, 11:54:59 AM |
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I told many friends to join NEM in the beginning. They were never active in Bitcointalk forum afterwards. I hope they won't be kicked out, because NEM could bring them to the cryptocurrency world and bring new businesses and people. But you guys are killing new blood into it. Well done. This way the cryptocurrency world never grow. They will probably blaim me now for not being active here. Losing faith in NEM.
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March 10, 2015, 11:58:22 AM |
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You make it worse with this kind of methods. Do you need accusations like "NEM elite removed accounts that would dilute their share of coins"? Do a cryptographically provable sockpuppet nuking. There are not so many promising coins around, I can't just watch how one of these coins fails from the very beginning. I hope you will follow the advice... +8.999.999.999
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March 10, 2015, 12:05:00 PM |
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I told many friends to join NEM in the beginning. They were never active in Bitcointalk forum afterwards. I hope they won't be kicked out, because NEM could bring them to the cryptocurrency world and bring new businesses and people. But you guys are killing new blood into it. Well done. This way the cryptocurrency world never grow. They will probably blaim me now for not being active here. Losing faith in NEM. Same here, got 3 of my colleagues at my company into NEM and also 5 or 6 from our association for complimentary WiFi in my hometown. Idk if they are now also on "the list" i'll check that later sure. I remember it was also ok when somebody registered a stake for a family memeber, friend, ...what ever... What about them? Are those people "blacklisted" too now...?
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March 10, 2015, 12:09:43 PM |
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I told many friends to join NEM in the beginning. They were never active in Bitcointalk forum afterwards. I hope they won't be kicked out, because NEM could bring them to the cryptocurrency world and bring new businesses and people. But you guys are killing new blood into it. Well done. This way the cryptocurrency world never grow. They will probably blaim me now for not being active here. Losing faith in NEM. Same here, got 3 of my colleagues at my company into NEM and also 5 or 6 from our association for complimentary WiFi in my hometown. Idk if they are now also on "the list" i'll check that later sure. I remember it was also ok when somebody registered a stake for a family memeber, friend, ...what ever... What about them? Are those people "blacklisted" too now...? Same story here bro. Hope my friends (2 of them) will get their stake. I really mis UtopianFuture now. Shared my thoughts about my stake here; https://nxtforum.org/alternate-cryptocurrencies/nemstake-discussion/msg167786/#msg167786I hope you won't blacklist my stake now. Centralization at its best! Ps. Didn't log into Bitcointalk forum for months. This post of Patmast3r pushed me to the edge to do it and react here. It really is a low level decision.
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March 10, 2015, 12:20:01 PM |
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I told many friends to join NEM in the beginning. They were never active in Bitcointalk forum afterwards. I hope they won't be kicked out, because NEM could bring them to the cryptocurrency world and bring new businesses and people. But you guys are killing new blood into it. Well done. This way the cryptocurrency world never grow. They will probably blaim me now for not being active here. Losing faith in NEM. Same here, got 3 of my colleagues at my company into NEM and also 5 or 6 from our association for complimentary WiFi in my hometown. Idk if they are now also on "the list" i'll check that later sure. I remember it was also ok when somebody registered a stake for a family memeber, friend, ...what ever... What about them? Are those people "blacklisted" too now...? Same story here bro. Hope my friends (2 of them) will get their stake. I really mis UtopianFuture now. Shared my thoughts about my stake here; https://nxtforum.org/alternate-cryptocurrencies/nemstake-discussion/msg167786/#msg167786I hope you won't blacklist my stake now. Centralization at its best! Ps. Didn't log into Bitcointalk forum for months. This post of Patmast3r pushed me to the edge to do it and react here. It really is a low level decision. Please just remember that it's really only a post of patmast3r. I didn't conduct the investigation or make any of the decisions. So yes please voice your concerns and everything but - and of course this goes out to everyone - don't hate me for it. I'm just the one posting this (and the one getting the hate PMs of course).
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March 10, 2015, 12:25:20 PM |
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Are the 4000 stakes being reduced inline with the number of socks taken out? Or do the devs/marketing/bounties etc. just keep more of the stakes (2433.5/4000)?
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March 10, 2015, 12:25:41 PM |
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I told many friends to join NEM in the beginning. They were never active in Bitcointalk forum afterwards. I hope they won't be kicked out, because NEM could bring them to the cryptocurrency world and bring new businesses and people. But you guys are killing new blood into it. Well done. This way the cryptocurrency world never grow. They will probably blaim me now for not being active here. Losing faith in NEM. Same here, got 3 of my colleagues at my company into NEM and also 5 or 6 from our association for complimentary WiFi in my hometown. Idk if they are now also on "the list" i'll check that later sure. I remember it was also ok when somebody registered a stake for a family memeber, friend, ...what ever... What about them? Are those people "blacklisted" too now...? Same story here bro. Hope my friends (2 of them) will get their stake. I really mis UtopianFuture now. Shared my thoughts about my stake here; https://nxtforum.org/alternate-cryptocurrencies/nemstake-discussion/msg167786/#msg167786I hope you won't blacklist my stake now. Centralization at its best! Ps. Didn't log into Bitcointalk forum for months. This post of Patmast3r pushed me to the edge to do it and react here. It really is a low level decision. Please just remember that it's really only a post of patmast3r. I didn't conduct the investigation or make any of the decisions. So yes please voice your concerns and everything but - and of course this goes out to everyone - don't hate me for it. I'm just the one posting this (and the one getting the hate PMs of course). Who decided to remove those accounts then? Who can we blaim? Who has the centralized authority of NEM? Really pissed off that the 'stakeholders' are ignored to make a decision. You guys asked us 10 times about logo opinions. But important decisions like this are made by the ' Boss' of NEM? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Even Bitshares have more delegates > 101 Delegates! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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