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July 06, 2014, 01:54:35 AM
Last edit: July 06, 2014, 02:47:59 AM by TaunSew
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I found more.  P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT.  Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive.  It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list.  Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold).  The others can still be refunded.



another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers. Smiley

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Well we don't know the criteria NODE had used, except for this one particular post.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

The problem I am sensing is that there could be false positives.  Despite Node's aggressive anti-sock detection they only rooted out individuals with between 2 to 6 stakes.  The biggest one I can immediately see has 6 stakes in NODE while most have less than that.  And that probably includes a few false positives.

Even with that aggressive sock hunting (even more aggressive than NEM due to witchhunting methods like "intuition" and other stuff), they didn't undercover any huge sock masters.  Like it's mainly guys with 2-3 stakes (with the odd person with 4 to 6), nothing which ruins NODE's distribution.

Does that mean NODE is worthless?  No.. it means, with the exception of 20 people who took 2 to 5 times more share, it was well distribution to over a thousand people.  I think that means NODE I would characterize to be a good buy since it's presumably has stability (no dumping whales).

NEM is the sameway I think.  Maybe if we used NODE's aggressive stance / witchhunt we could uncover maybe 30 to 40 sock masters (including false positives) but those sockmasters probably only have 3 to 4 stakes (the odd person with 5 to 7).


 NEM is still going to have that good distribution of maybe 2700+ unique persons (after the auction).

The reality is this: NEM was a fork back in January and there wasn't the incentive to create a billion socks to game what was then a fork, the samething was true for NODE.  All the time it takes to bypass taint analysis and other detection methods, never mind the anti-spam thing on Bitcointalk, the hysteria about huge sock masters just doesn't have any basis in reality.

It makes sense in the present to say: "if I had known the price of NEMstake I'ld had created 100 socks".  Just like saying I should had put $10,000 into Bitcoin in 2009.  One problem of that is retrospective knowledge =/= real world.  I was there back in January and it probably wasn't until March (after the registration was over) that we knew NEM was going to be this special thing we know it to be today.


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July 06, 2014, 02:04:21 AM
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I found more.  P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT.  Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive.  It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list.  Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold).  The others can still be refunded.



another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers. Smiley

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Well we don't know the criteria NODE had used, except for this one particular post.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.msg7550635#msg7550635

The problem I am sensing is that there could be false positives.  Despite Node's aggressive anti-sock detection they only rooted out individuals with between 2 to 6 stakes.  The biggest one I can immediately see has 6 stakes in NODE while most have less than that.  And that probably includes a few false positives.

Even with that aggressive sock hunting (even more aggressive than NEM due to witchhunting methods like "intuition" and other stuff), they didn't undercover any huge sock masters.  Like it's mainly guys with 2-3 stakes (with the odd person with 4 to 6), nothing which ruins NODE's distribution.

Does that mean NODE is worthless?  No.. it means, with the exception of 20 people who took 2 to 5 times more share, it was well distribution to over a thousand people.

NEM is the sameway I think.  Maybe if we used NODE's aggressive stance / witchhunt we could uncover maybe 30 to 40 sock masters (including false positives) but those sockmasters probably only have 3 to 4 stakes (the odd person with 5 to 7).


 NEM is still going to have that good distribution of maybe 2700+ unique persons (after the auction).

The reality is this: NEM was a fork back in January and there wasn't the incentive to create a billion socks to game what was then a fork, the samething was true for NODE.  All the time it takes to bypass taint analysis and other detection methods, never mind the anti-spam thing on Bitcointalk, the hysteria about huge sock masters just doesn't have any basis in reality.


These node guys are like a group of teens with too much power.

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July 06, 2014, 02:12:35 AM
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I found NODE to be interesting, so I went ahead and signed up.  That was after they hiked the registration fee to $25 something.  

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July 06, 2014, 03:46:20 AM
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They did it too easy. Too quick. Had to be the IP. You had to go there to get your number. lol ---->BUSTED Shocked
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July 06, 2014, 03:53:02 AM
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I found more.  P9 - BestofSR, cryptonikus, Deftonikus, Djentriser and TeseracT.  Busted as socks on NODE.
All present on the NEM stakeholder list, haven't collected any tokens yet.

This looks pretty extensive.  It's a good chance that all the socks on NODEs' list are probably on the NEM list.  Seems like some had collected tokens (and presumably sold).  The others can still be refunded.



another audit i think may be in the making here. or we just check all the socks that node uncovers. Smiley

socks around the world will be shaking in their boots! :L

Great work TaunSew on pointing this out.  I think it definitely needs to be taken into consideration and more auditing is in order!

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July 06, 2014, 10:11:28 AM
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So... in this case -why nxt is falling down so quick  Grin cause of this good news?

P.S. so many nxt in NEM thread

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July 06, 2014, 12:00:19 PM
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So big drama is going to happen with Node's puppet removal, that it seems that all NEMsters are there Grin
Have a good weekend NEMsters!
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July 06, 2014, 12:24:13 PM
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kodtycoon thank you for clarifying
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July 06, 2014, 01:05:58 PM
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the whole asset exchange is full of sockpuppets

here an example: Account NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL

Look at the transactions details  Grin

NEM only have less than 500 stakeholder the rest are sockpuppets!

Patmaster tell us your views which username is hiding behind the transactions.

he catch 5 nemstakes and transfer it into one account!


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July 06, 2014, 01:13:03 PM
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the whole asset exchange is full of sockpuppets

here an example: Account NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL

Look at the transactions details  Grin

NEM only have less than 500 stakeholder the rest are sockpuppets!


there's over 1000 veteran accounts?HuhHuh?? So your saying of these 1000 500 are sock puppets and the other 1500 are also sock puppets of them??? Ok lol

it is no problem to make a member or hero member account.

I do not want a discussion. I just want to know which usernames stuck behind the account.

This Accounts all are one person:

1 ) NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
2)  NXT-YXJ6-PYSH-48LJ-744EG
3)  NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5
4)  NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8
5)  NXT-8YZK-DV4T-4R3K-5BU5L
6)  NXT-ZHUA-3R7B-G74V-AG5VV


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July 06, 2014, 01:18:56 PM
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It's quite interesting to see how NEM is evolving and the whole altcoin landscape along with it.

Would love to be able to use a time machine and see how things would look like at christmas.
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July 06, 2014, 01:23:25 PM
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Considering the date, its probably one that scammed for 6 stakes.
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July 06, 2014, 01:25:08 PM
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the whole asset exchange is full of sockpuppets

here an example: Account NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL

Look at the transactions details  Grin

NEM only have less than 500 stakeholder the rest are sockpuppets!


there's over 1000 veteran accounts?HuhHuh?? So your saying of these 1000 500 are sock puppets and the other 1500 are also sock puppets of them??? Ok lol

it is no problem to make a member or hero member account.

I do not want a discussion. I just want to know which usernames stuck behind the account.

This Accounts all are one person:

1 ) NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
2)  NXT-YXJ6-PYSH-48LJ-744EG
3)  NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5
4)  NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8
5)  NXT-8YZK-DV4T-4R3K-5BU5L
6)  NXT-ZHUA-3R7B-G74V-AG5VV


These are from the marked scammer:

2)  NXT-YXJ6-PYSH-48LJ-744EG : 572   newmeyns ; 573   penter
3)  NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5: 584 jacksonwil
4)  NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8 : 583
5) 586 michaelss
6) 587 lucky8888

etc.

No surprise here. You barked at the wrong tree.

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July 06, 2014, 01:26:09 PM
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These are the accounts with scammed NEM:

NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8
NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5
NXT-8YZK-DV4T-4R3K-5BU5L
NXT-ZHUA-3R7B-G74V-AG5VV
NXT-29UX-LJCV-YAGJ-FZWV9
NXT-W7SY-5SMN-L7QE-E7CLA
NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL
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July 06, 2014, 01:30:39 PM
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These are the accounts with scammed NEM:

NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8
NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5
NXT-8YZK-DV4T-4R3K-5BU5L
NXT-ZHUA-3R7B-G74V-AG5VV
NXT-29UX-LJCV-YAGJ-FZWV9
NXT-W7SY-5SMN-L7QE-E7CLA
NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL

there are even more!

Can you see well to the transaction movements. I'm going to look more and then post it here and i think we will find some members Smiley

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July 06, 2014, 01:38:39 PM
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These are the accounts with scammed NEM:

NXT-XR2N-5SS3-X9BZ-H8BN8
NXT-8SCQ-9S3Q-JP2T-DM6Q5
NXT-8YZK-DV4T-4R3K-5BU5L
NXT-ZHUA-3R7B-G74V-AG5VV
NXT-29UX-LJCV-YAGJ-FZWV9
NXT-W7SY-5SMN-L7QE-E7CLA
NXT-5SPQ-5AVB-PV6D-F6EJL

there are even more!

Can you see well to the transaction movements. I'm going to look more and then post it here and i think we will find some members Smiley

That's how it should be done. The more eyes the better.

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July 06, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
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I read it what happened.
Patmaster that can happen.
the price for nem stakes will go down in the next few day/s but you can buy cheap Smiley


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July 06, 2014, 02:53:42 PM
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Its 100% obvious, some major sock puppet accounts are dumping hard and leaving the game early. Don't get bent out of shape about prices, this is a good thing.
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July 06, 2014, 02:55:30 PM
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Something out of topic. We need to compile a base of high resolution copyright free images for NEM. If you have any, please contribute it to us at the trello. Please note, it must be NEM "relevant".

We will need quite a bit of these images for marketing purpose later on.

Thanks.
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July 06, 2014, 03:15:52 PM
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Its 100% obvious, some major sock puppet accounts are dumping hard and leaving the game early. Don't get bent out of shape about prices, this is a good thing.

It is the lack of demand that matters. There is always a fixed amount of potential sellers. I would like to see more the developer's involvement. A development plan like this  https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/development-roadmap-update-2014-07-05/ could be good.

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