NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[lexicon]

Well,

It's sunday at 7pm

Let's keep our promise and get these tokens sent out today.

I can't think of a more positive thing to happen than to keep that promise and get this behind us.

More than 10 people have commented and supported me in my plan to get this back underway. It makes us look bad that a scam has held us back this long. Let's get this checked off the list.

Today is the day. So let's deliever!!!

BIG POSITIVE STEP

Also, is the Nem Forum fixed? Is everybody able to vote now without using TOR?

Can we make that announcement?

Getting problems fixed in a timely manner is VERY, VERY important to the value of a coin!!!

you make it sound like these are catastrophic failures, when in reality they are minor issues.. take exo for example.. if they're only issues were the ones we are facing.. they would be delighted. its all relative.. these issues seem much bigger than they are.. cos we dont have any major issues.. if the alpha wasnt functioning properly or not at all.. would you give a crap about a delay of nem stake issuance.. look at these issues from the right persective and they arent issues at all...

What is small to you is BIG to others

You are already active on the asset exchange. Imagine if I locked you out, would that be a big deal? it's just an example.

What are "catastrophic failures" are small issues that are unable to be fixed quickly!!!!

Also,

I think someone unable to vote and JOIN our forum is NOT "minor issue"

You disappoint me greatly, and impress be greatly in the space of ten minutes.

You make an AMAZING POST, followed by a horrible post!!!

Come on KODTYCOON!! You have to see this!!!!

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[xtester]

Well,

It's sunday at 7pm

Let's keep our promise and get these tokens sent out today.

I can't think of a more positive thing to happen than to keep that promise and get this behind us.

More than 10 people have commented and supported me in my plan to get this back underway. It makes us look bad that a scam has held us back this long. Let's get this checked off the list.

Today is the day. So let's deliever!!!

BIG POSITIVE STEP

Also, is the Nem Forum fixed? Is everybody able to vote now without using TOR?

Can we make that announcement?

Getting problems fixed in a timely manner is VERY, VERY important to the value of a coin!!!

Hi lexicon,

This was the last update from Pat on the matter:

IT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE TO REQUEST TOKENS VIA PM. TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE TO LOOK AT REQUESTS AND THEREFORE HAVE THE PUBLIC AUDIT THE REQUESTS AS WELL WE WILL HAVE A DEDICATED THREAD FOR REQUESTS. THIS IS ANOTHER MEASSURE AGAINST SCAMS!

WE'LL CREATE THE THREAD WHEN I HAVE DISCUSSED THE DETAILES WITH XTESTER.

Sorry for the confusion but I wasn't around when the decision to issue again was made so I'll have to catch up with the team first.

To speed up the solution I am now discussing a quicker way for the assets with Pat - just waiting for him to come online again and respond to my PM.

Will hopefully update on that later.

As for the forum, the issue should be solved for now.

We will however be implementing a more stable solution tomorrow.

If any other forum problems should arise please post here or PM me with the info.

Thanks.

[lexicon]

Alright everyone!!!

The issue with the login at the Nem Forum is fixed!!!

GO VOTE FOR YOUR FAVORITE LOGO!!

[kalextospincir]

There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?

[lexicon]

Well,

It's sunday at 7pm

Let's keep our promise and get these tokens sent out today.

I can't think of a more positive thing to happen than to keep that promise and get this behind us.

More than 10 people have commented and supported me in my plan to get this back underway. It makes us look bad that a scam has held us back this long. Let's get this checked off the list.

Today is the day. So let's deliever!!!

BIG POSITIVE STEP

Also, is the Nem Forum fixed? Is everybody able to vote now without using TOR?

Can we make that announcement?

Getting problems fixed in a timely manner is VERY, VERY important to the value of a coin!!!

Hi lexicon,

This was the last update from Pat on the matter:

IT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE TO REQUEST TOKENS VIA PM. TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE TO LOOK AT REQUESTS AND THEREFORE HAVE THE PUBLIC AUDIT THE REQUESTS AS WELL WE WILL HAVE A DEDICATED THREAD FOR REQUESTS. THIS IS ANOTHER MEASSURE AGAINST SCAMS!

WE'LL CREATE THE THREAD WHEN I HAVE DISCUSSED THE DETAILES WITH XTESTER.

Sorry for the confusion but I wasn't around when the decision to issue again was made so I'll have to catch up with the team first.

To speed up the solution I am now discussing a quicker way for the assets with Pat - just waiting for him to come online again and respond to my PM.

Will hopefully update on that later.

As for the forum, the issue should be solved for now.

We will however be implementing a more stable solution tomorrow.

If any other forum problems should arise please post here or PM me with the info.

Thanks.

THANKS XTESTER, GREAT JOB!!

THINGS ARE STARTING TO GET UNCLOGGED HERE. THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!

[TaunSew]

There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?

No.  Bitcoin itself is only used by a million people around the world.  Getting people to use crypto currencies is an education campaign and a simple brochure (even with measly freebies attached - which I don't like) would have a very low effectiveness rate.

I've seen the marketing strategies used by Litecoin and Dogecoin.  Back in 2013 they were spamming on large internet forums like Bodybuilding but it wasn't an education campaign "why you should use cryptos" but more like "hear about dat Bitcoin chyieet?  Well throw money at Litecoin and make $$$$"

However unethical it was for LTC / Doge people to pass off their coin as a money flipping opportunity, I don't think anyone on their forum ever writes: "hey guys, remember in 2013 when you were passing off money flipping opportunities to random people on the internet?".

 That method they used was effective in the sense that Doge was able to hit $60 million and LTC is still the Prince to BTC and I was around (albeit not registered on BTT at the time) to see its' raise.  Ironically it was those LTC money flipping threads on websites like Bodybuilding that made me lurk on Bitcointalk.

[lexicon]

There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?

No.  Bitcoin itself is only used by a million people around the world.  Getting people to use crypto currencies is an education campaign and a simple brochure (even with measly freebies attached - which I don't like) would have a very low effectiveness rate.

I've seen the marketing strategies used by Litecoin and Dogecoin.  Back in 2013 they were spamming on large internet forums like Bodybuilding but it wasn't an education campaign "why you should use cryptos" but more like "hear about dat Bitcoin chyieet?  Well throw money at Litecoin and make $$$$"

However unethical it was for LTC / Doge people to pass off their coin as a money flipping opportunity, I don't think anyone on their forum ever writes: "hey guys, remember in 2013 when you were passing off money flipping opportunities to random people on the internet?".

It's not an end all be all, but would definitely help, I don't see a problem with it!!!

[ARGpentem]

There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?

No.  Bitcoin itself is only used by a million people around the world.  Getting people to use crypto currencies is an education campaign and a simple brochure (even with measly freebies attached - which I don't like) would have a very low effectiveness rate.

I've seen the marketing strategies used by Litecoin and Dogecoin.  Back in 2013 they were spamming on large internet forums like Bodybuilding but it wasn't an education campaign "why you should use cryptos" but more like "hear about dat Bitcoin chyieet?  Well throw money at Litecoin and make $$$$"

However unethical it was for LTC / Doge people to pass off their coin as a money flipping opportunity, I don't think anyone on their forum ever writes: "hey guys, remember in 2013 when you were passing off money flipping opportunities to random people on the internet?".

Litecoin is used in Bitfinex as a financial instrument. Very big advantage. There is always a possibility that Litecoin being included in Coinbase thanks to Charlie's connection.

[TaunSew]

There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?

No.  Bitcoin itself is only used by a million people around the world.  Getting people to use crypto currencies is an education campaign and a simple brochure (even with measly freebies attached - which I don't like) would have a very low effectiveness rate.

I've seen the marketing strategies used by Litecoin and Dogecoin.  Back in 2013 they were spamming on large internet forums like Bodybuilding but it wasn't an education campaign "why you should use cryptos" but more like "hear about dat Bitcoin chyieet?  Well throw money at Litecoin and make $$$$"

However unethical it was for LTC / Doge people to pass off their coin as a money flipping opportunity, I don't think anyone on their forum ever writes: "hey guys, remember in 2013 when you were passing off money flipping opportunities to random people on the internet?".

Litecoin is used in Bitfinex as a financial instrument. Very big advantage. There is always a possibility that Litecoin being included in Coinbase thanks to Charlie's connection.

Hmm I wasn't referring to now.  I was there when Litecoin was only a measly $3 dollars.  Its' growth in such a short period was phenomenal.  It was largely pumped by the masses who missed out on Bitcoin's climb to $1250.
 

[xtester]

There should be a handout created for NEM targeted for people completely new to digital currencies. It should be brochure like, easy for anyone to print out. Make it as simple as possible, explain the idea of digital currencies as a whole and then what approach NEM is taking. People involved in the swarm team could print these off and post them locally on bulletins or hand them out by hand on streets, campuses, local events.

Going further, we could put a message inside some of the brochure offering free X amount of NEM (we could include what market value this would be in $) for anyone potentially interested in getting involved with the project. We could make the brochures unique by serial numbers and have them redeem them after creating an account on the Nem forums.

Does this seem like a realistic marketing idea?

No.  Bitcoin itself is only used by a million people around the world.  Getting people to use crypto currencies is an education campaign and a simple brochure (even with measly freebies attached - which I don't like) would have a very low effectiveness rate.

I've seen the marketing strategies used by Litecoin and Dogecoin.  Back in 2013 they were spamming on large internet forums like Bodybuilding but it wasn't an education campaign "why you should use cryptos" but more like "hear about dat Bitcoin chyieet?  Well throw money at Litecoin and make $$$$"

However unethical it was for LTC / Doge people to pass off their coin as a money flipping opportunity, I don't think anyone on their forum ever writes: "hey guys, remember in 2013 when you were passing off money flipping opportunities to random people on the internet?".

 That method they used was effective in the sense that Doge was able to hit $60 million and LTC is still the Prince to BTC and I was around (albeit not registered on BTT at the time) to see its' raise.  Ironically it was those LTC money flipping threads on websites like Bodybuilding that made me lurk on Bitcointalk.

While there is something to be said about doge and litecoin, I think the major factors(as in 80/20 principle) which brought them up did not include them spamming the forums. Notice I am not discussing the value of spamming forums, just pointing out that it's highly probable that other factors were responsible for what happened. A good example for that would be Woolong for Dogecoin; you can read this for more info: http://cryptofrenzy.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/god.pdf

The market seems to behave more counter-intuitively and even randomly than most people think.

[lexicon]

Well,

It's sunday at 7pm

Let's keep our promise and get these tokens sent out today.

I can't think of a more positive thing to happen than to keep that promise and get this behind us.

More than 10 people have commented and supported me in my plan to get this back underway. It makes us look bad that a scam has held us back this long. Let's get this checked off the list.

Today is the day. So let's deliever!!!

BIG POSITIVE STEP

Also, is the Nem Forum fixed? Is everybody able to vote now without using TOR?

Can we make that announcement?

Getting problems fixed in a timely manner is VERY, VERY important to the value of a coin!!!

you make it sound like these are catastrophic failures, when in reality they are minor issues.. take exo for example.. if they're only issues were the ones we are facing.. they would be delighted. its all relative.. these issues seem much bigger than they are.. cos we dont have any major issues.. if the alpha wasnt functioning properly or not at all.. would you give a crap about a delay of nem stake issuance.. look at these issues from the right persective and they arent issues at all...

What is small to you is BIG to others

You are already active on the asset exchange. Imagine if I locked you out, would that be a big deal? it's just an example.

What are "catastrophic failures" are small issues that are unable to be fixed quickly!!!!

Also,

I think someone unable to vote and JOIN our forum is NOT "minor issue"

You disappoint me greatly, and impress be greatly in the space of ten minutes.

You make an AMAZING POST, followed by a horrible post!!!

Come on KODTYCOON!! You have to see this!!!!

all im saying is that "how bad" these issues are, is all relative. if the alpha was broken entirely.. you wouldnt give two hoots about the forum or a delay in stakes.

think of it this way.. two people, one wealthy, food always on the table nothing ever goes wrong for him, never had a worry in the world growing up etc spoilt rotten basically.. the other was dragged up, bad parents, hardly ever food in the house and has to fight for everything in life and generally has a shit life.. one day they both find out that they cant go to somewhere they want to go for what ever reason.. the rich one kicks up holy hell how ever the broke one, down on luck one brushes it off and forgets about it pretty much straight away.. why? cos the problem they face is entirely relative to everything thing else going on at the time. to the rich guy its a huge problem, cos relative to the very few problems he has its a big big problem and seems bigger to him cos nothing bad ever happens to him. where as the down on luck guy.. well hes used to bad shit happening.. not being able to go somewhere he wants to go is inconsequential when he doesnt no where his food is guna come from in 2 days, so relative to his problems, its nothing.

my point is, the same problem can be ether a huge problem or a small one, it all depends on what reference point you look at the problem from. do you look at it from the rich guys angle cos you havnt got any other problems(thats nem right now) or do you look at it from the poor guys angle?(thats the likes of exo having major technical problems). its all relative, and if you can flex your neck and look at it from the other guys perspective.. we got it real good.

if we have some major major problem with the tech and it starts looking like nem wont launch... then we will be looking at it from the poor guys perspective and everyone will then see how good we really had it and how small of an issue not being able to vote or a delay in stake issuance really is. its all relative. its all perspective.

if the devs didnt agree to put nem on the AE. you wouldnt have an AE stake to claim.. nemsters are spoilt rotten in my opinion(no offence intended, you cant blame the child for being spoilt). haha

Maybe I just didn't get the whole point, my apologies. I get it with the clarification. But the minor issues are what kill you, don't ever forget that.

But it's ALWAYS the little things that get you. It's always all in the details. If little things are ignored, they pile up and the perception will kill you. Small things have to be attended to quickly, and put out of the way.

When the big things hit, not only are you used to dealing with issues quickly, but you don't have all these small things hanging around making things worse.

And small things add up.

Example: what if the register issue at the forum was the start of some major failure, that if looked into right away would have been noticed.

Yes, NEM is doing well, but we HAVE to stay on top of the details. This is a VERY important thing you will learn with management experience.

[Parana]

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maybe your post proves all this.
You just took one post and made your conclusions. And the result is wrong. (Maybe the same has happened with many issues)
If you would have read my earlier posts couple pages ago, you could have noticed that I wrote about these things as early as in March.
It is difficult to be happy with these circumstances.

Im sorry, but, certainly I'll not remember some or one post from march.

Probably most of us here will not remember. I dont remember what I eat at Friday  .

If your idea is really good, just dont give up. Tell it more than one time.

 

[jkoil]

...
maybe your post proves all this.
You just took one post and made your conclusions. And the result is wrong. (Maybe the same has happened with many issues)
If you would have read my earlier posts couple pages ago, you could have noticed that I wrote about these things as early as in March.
It is difficult to be happy with these circumstances.

Im sorry, but, certainly I'll not remember some or one post from march.

Probably most of us here will not remember. I dont remember what I eat at Friday  .

If your idea is really good, just dont give up. Tell it more than one time.

 

eh ...
the posts in page 160 contains the quotes in question.

If the idea is "obvious" and "generally used", but no one in the community comments it, then it means that they think
a) "it's obvious and ofcourse we will consider it" or
b) "it sucks, it's not worth of trying, we know better, do not come here to give advices to us".

[Mjbmonetarymetals]

Played around with a logo a while back never got around to posting,

[Magic8Ball]

Besides PoI and the relatively good distribution, what else makes NEM stand out? I need a better understanding to defend against naysayers.

A list in easy to understand format would be very helpful.

[TaunSew]

Besides PoI and the relatively good distribution, what else makes NEM stand out? I need a better understanding to defend against naysayers.

A list in easy to understand format would be very helpful.

Who is to say we cannot use the innovative rhetoric?  There are things NEM does which is better than NXT and other 2.0 coins, never mind the 1.0 coins.  There's no trademark on being innovative and the definition is open, I've seen generation 1.5 coins use the innovative rhetoric with success.

  You have to recall that there's a bigger world out there than just NXT bagholders. .  

NEM as far as I know is the more secured wallet out there.  Wallet.Dat plus the Login, Password and Encryption.  This is compared to something like NXT which is a brainwallet and someone's password can be gained through bruteforcing or a keylog / virus / trojan.  There's always been huge and minor thefts in NXT.   Then 1.0 coins tend to just be the wallet.dat.  Even some generation 2.0 coins are wallet.dat

[contraband]

they gonna miss again.

a dud..


where are the tokens

what is so hard. so easy. how can they do anything that is hard

having real hard time believeing

what is it that you see lexicon. no wonder you make money you see thru walls

[tk808]

A very-in-depth review of NEM now on Coins Source. (We did not score NEM due to being in Alpha still, but we did put up some suggestions)

http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/new-economy-movement-nem/

[lexicon]

A very-in-depth review of NEM now on Coins Source. (We did not score NEM due to being in Alpha still, but we did put up some suggestions)

http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/new-economy-movement-nem/

What the hell are they talking about with "one-to-one clone of Nxt"?

[TaunSew]

Innovations - NEM is a one-to-one clone of Nxt, but they seek to differentiate themselves by offering vast improvements to Nxt’s framework

The details on this should be clarified.  I haven't taken an in-depth look at the code myself but I was under the impression that NEM wasn't an one-to-one clone.  The language suggests that they took NXT and just swapped out the POS for POI, which to my understanding that wasn't the case at all.  The NXT source code that was released back in early 2014 (which was of terrible quality) convinced coins like NEM and NODE to write new code.  Even the NXT developers themselves had to patch up the code tons after February.

If NEM is an "one-to-one" clone of NXT then Bitcoin is an "one-to-one" clone of eGold.