ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread

[firewire2013]

Is this ok

4x S3+ OC'd

You need to get the notion that you need 4 connectors populated to power an overclocked S3+ out of your mind.
I'll do some maths for you to judge what you need.

Each 6 pin PCI-e connector, fully populated with PROPER 16AWG cables carries 7.5A * 3 = 22.5A which equates to 270 Watts @ 12V
That is enough to power a board in an overclocked S3+ (just one socket!), so for a 1200W PSU, you can safely power 2 S3+'s overclocked. Having said that, a single S3+ will not draw that much power, so a 1000W PSU can safely power 2 overclocked S3+'s.

Depending on how much power is available on each rail of your PSU, one 6 pin PCI-e socket should be adequate per S3+ board (making it 2 for the rig), but if you chose to populate all four, go ahead. For the cost and headache of an off the shelf PSU, I'd recomend a server PSU which are fare more efficient and robust than their desktop counterparts (and cost next to nothing, again compared to their desktop counterparts!)

Yeah I've been looking at the Server PSU's and there dirt cheap, only problem is I cant find any breakout boards in the UK.

Also I understand the concept of only requiring 2 pair device but that using 16awg, just looking at my Cooler master VGA cables and they say 18awg.

So in theory its not the device that requires the extra power, its the quality of cables used.

[pekatete]

Yeah I've been looking at the Server PSU's and there dirt cheap, only problem is I cant find any breakout boards in the UK.

Breakout boards are over-rated! What PSU have you looked at? You can rig-up your very own contraption .... remember, bitcoin mining is about ROI and the less you spend on the PSU the better / faster to ROI. If you are not afraid of the solder iron, you can drastically reduce the cost of a PSU (both in terms of outlay and reliability) by over 90% if not more by going the server PSU way .... your choice!
I use Dell server PSU's and did not need breakout boards for them, simply soldered the wires.

[firewire2013]

Yeah I've been looking at the Server PSU's and there dirt cheap, only problem is I cant find any breakout boards in the UK.

Breakout boards are over-rated! What PSU have you looked at? You can rig-up your very own contraption .... remember, bitcoin mining is about ROI and the less you spend on the PSU the better / faster to ROI. If you are not afraid of the solder iron, you can drastically reduce the cost of a PSU (both in terms of outlay and reliability) by over 90% if not more by going the server PSU way .... your choice!
I use Dell server PSU's and did not need breakout boards for them, simply soldered the wires.

Was looking at this one to power all four.

[pekatete]

Yeah I've been looking at the Server PSU's and there dirt cheap, only problem is I cant find any breakout boards in the UK.

Breakout boards are over-rated! What PSU have you looked at? You can rig-up your very own contraption .... remember, bitcoin mining is about ROI and the less you spend on the PSU the better / faster to ROI. If you are not afraid of the solder iron, you can drastically reduce the cost of a PSU (both in terms of outlay and reliability) by over 90% if not more by going the server PSU way .... your choice!
I use Dell server PSU's and did not need breakout boards for them, simply soldered the wires.

Was looking at this one to power all four.

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That will definitely power all four. All you need is solder a few wires, then connect those wires to an inline cable connector, and then have your PCI-e sockets off the inlines.

EDIT:
By straight division, each raile has 21.875A so all you'd have to do is have each rail power a single PCI-e socket!

[firewire2013]

Yeah I've been looking at the Server PSU's and there dirt cheap, only problem is I cant find any breakout boards in the UK.

Breakout boards are over-rated! What PSU have you looked at? You can rig-up your very own contraption .... remember, bitcoin mining is about ROI and the less you spend on the PSU the better / faster to ROI. If you are not afraid of the solder iron, you can drastically reduce the cost of a PSU (both in terms of outlay and reliability) by over 90% if not more by going the server PSU way .... your choice!
I use Dell server PSU's and did not need breakout boards for them, simply soldered the wires.

Was looking at this one to power all four.

img<<>>img

That will definitely power all four. All you need is solder a few wires, then connect those wires to an inline cable connector, and then have your PCI-e sockets off the inlines.

Ok I know what to do now...

Now where do I find a ''how to make VGA PCI-e cable with out blowing your self up'' thread

[pekatete]

Yeah I've been looking at the Server PSU's and there dirt cheap, only problem is I cant find any breakout boards in the UK.

Breakout boards are over-rated! What PSU have you looked at? You can rig-up your very own contraption .... remember, bitcoin mining is about ROI and the less you spend on the PSU the better / faster to ROI. If you are not afraid of the solder iron, you can drastically reduce the cost of a PSU (both in terms of outlay and reliability) by over 90% if not more by going the server PSU way .... your choice!
I use Dell server PSU's and did not need breakout boards for them, simply soldered the wires.

Was looking at this one to power all four.

img<<>>img

That will definitely power all four. All you need is solder a few wires, then connect those wires to an inline cable connector, and then have your PCI-e sockets off the inlines.

Ok I know what to do now...

Now where do I find a ''how to make VGA PCI-e cable with out blowing your self up'' thread

Actually, you can get those cables ready-made from moddiy.com
http://www.moddiy.com/products/DELL1950-2950-PE1950-2950-8-Pin-%252b-6-Pin-PCI%252dE-Power-Cable-%2850cm%252b10cm%29.html
(those are plug and play for that particular PSU!)
EDIT: Scrub that! They are not plug and play for that PSU!

or look on ebay for female pin connectors and 6 pin PCI-e sockets (normally, the person who sells the sockets does the pins too, so if you can not find the pins, search for sockets and enquire from them about the pins). Making them up yourself, I have to say, makes them dirt cheap!

[klondike_bar]

Yeah I've been looking at the Server PSU's and there dirt cheap, only problem is I cant find any breakout boards in the UK.

Breakout boards are over-rated! What PSU have you looked at? You can rig-up your very own contraption .... remember, bitcoin mining is about ROI and the less you spend on the PSU the better / faster to ROI. If you are not afraid of the solder iron, you can drastically reduce the cost of a PSU (both in terms of outlay and reliability) by over 90% if not more by going the server PSU way .... your choice!
I use Dell server PSU's and did not need breakout boards for them, simply soldered the wires.

Was looking at this one to power all four.

img<<>>img

That will definitely power all four. All you need is solder a few wires, then connect those wires to an inline cable connector, and then have your PCI-e sockets off the inlines.

Ok I know what to do now...

Now where do I find a ''how to make VGA PCI-e cable with out blowing your self up'' thread

Look at my signature.i sell 24" 16awg pcie cables. The ends are stripped, so it's easy to either solder them to the server PSU, or buy the correct size of pins at a hardware store and crimp them to the wires.

And way cheaper than most other sellers ($1.40-$2 each in the quantity you want, as opposed to $4-6 elsewhere, often with only 18awg)

[pekatete]

Look at my signature.i sell 24" 16awg pcie cables. The ends are stripped, so it's easy to either solder them to the server PSU, or buy the correct size of pins at a hardware store and crimp them to the wires.

And way cheaper than most other sellers ($1.40-$2 each in the quantity you want, as opposed to $4-6 elsewhere, often with only 18awg)

What is your shipping cost to the UK for 10?

[firewire2013]

Yeah I've been looking at the Server PSU's and there dirt cheap, only problem is I cant find any breakout boards in the UK.

Breakout boards are over-rated! What PSU have you looked at? You can rig-up your very own contraption .... remember, bitcoin mining is about ROI and the less you spend on the PSU the better / faster to ROI. If you are not afraid of the solder iron, you can drastically reduce the cost of a PSU (both in terms of outlay and reliability) by over 90% if not more by going the server PSU way .... your choice!
I use Dell server PSU's and did not need breakout boards for them, simply soldered the wires.

Was looking at this one to power all four.

img<<>>img

That will definitely power all four. All you need is solder a few wires, then connect those wires to an inline cable connector, and then have your PCI-e sockets off the inlines.

Ok I know what to do now...

Now where do I find a ''how to make VGA PCI-e cable with out blowing your self up'' thread

Actually, you can get those cables ready-made from moddiy.com
http://www.moddiy.com/products/DELL1950-2950-PE1950-2950-8-Pin-%252b-6-Pin-PCI%252dE-Power-Cable-%2850cm%252b10cm%29.html
(those are plug and play for that particular PSU!)
EDIT: Scrub that! They are not plug and play for that PSU!

or look on ebay for female pin connectors and 6 pin PCI-e sockets (normally, the person who sells the sockets does the pins too, so if you can not find the pins, search for sockets and enquire from them about the pins). Making them up yourself, I have to say, makes them dirt cheap!

The 6 Pin connecters are exspensive on eBay £2.5 each without pins! I've found another place that sells them for 49p each with pins

Just calculating the 16 awg cable, at 6 pieces per 6-Pin connector at 600mm thats make it a total of 3.6m per complete leg.

I need 8, 8 x 3.6 = 28.8m

Then I asumme ill need two colours (black and Red) 15m of each should do the trick.

[pekatete]

The 6 Pin connecters are exspensive on eBay £2.5 each without pins! I've found another place that sells them for 49p each with pins

Just calculating the 16 awg cable, at 6 pieces per 6-Pin connector at 600mm thats make it a total of 3.6m per complete leg.

I need 8, 8 x 3.6 = 28.8m

Then I asumme ill need two colours (black and Red) 15m of each should do the trick.

49p with pins .... share the link! (any minimum order qty's?)
Also, bear in mind :
1. Each rail is ~22A and you can draw that with a fully populated 6 pin, BUT it may be awkward to solder 3 16AWG wires on a single terminal (even spading them may be fiddly ....), i.e you may need some 22-25A wires feeding into an inline from where you can connect the socket wires.
2. Before you cut your wires to make your 6 pins, look at the layout you will have your setup in (you may want / need some wires longer depending on your arrangement!)

[firewire2013]

The 6 Pin connecters are exspensive on eBay £2.5 each without pins! I've found another place that sells them for 49p each with pins

Just calculating the 16 awg cable, at 6 pieces per 6-Pin connector at 600mm thats make it a total of 3.6m per complete leg.

I need 8, 8 x 3.6 = 28.8m

Then I asumme ill need two colours (black and Red) 15m of each should do the trick.

49p with pins .... share the link! (any minimum order qty's?)
Also, bear in mind :
1. Each rail is ~22A and you can draw that with a fully populated 6 pin, BUT it may be awkward to solder 3 16AWG wires on a single terminal (even spading them may be fiddly ....), i.e you may need some 22-25A wires feeding into an inline from where you can connect the socket wires.
2. Before you cut your wires to make your 6 pins, look at the layout you will have your setup in (you may want / need some wires longer depending on your arrangement!)

Will post link in about 10 mins just want to get the order finished. Its saying squared or tapered, I assume it doesnt matter for the S3?

[klondike_bar]

Look at my signature.i sell 24" 16awg pcie cables. The ends are stripped, so it's easy to either solder them to the server PSU, or buy the correct size of pins at a hardware store and crimp them to the wires.

And way cheaper than most other sellers ($1.40-$2 each in the quantity you want, as opposed to $4-6 elsewhere, often with only 18awg)

What is your shipping cost to the UK for 10?

Prohibitively expensive as if ships from Canada. Probably close to $20 using the cheapest surface option, and closer to $30 for tracking. Shipping to the EU only starts to make sense at >40 units

[firewire2013]

Everyone ok with this?


14awg cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390936118334?var=660299683939
16awg cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261125670100?var=560169072565
6 Pin connectors http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/cables/connectors/
30amp Blocks http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300522058809?var=600010575320

Ill get the spades (or something) from local store once the PSU arrives

[pekatete]

Everyone ok with this?


14awg cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390936118334?var=660299683939
16awg cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261125670100?var=560169072565
6 Pin connectors http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/cables/connectors/
30amp Blocks http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300522058809?var=600010575320

Ill get the spades (or something) from local store once the PSU arrives

Yep, now you are ready to rock. For what it's worth, if you are not solder iron averse, ditch the spades and simply solder as it gives a more solid connection.
PS. Could not find any of those PCI-e Sockets with female pins for 49p from the link you gave .... or did I not look closely enough?

[firewire2013]

Everyone ok with this?


14awg cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390936118334?var=660299683939
16awg cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261125670100?var=560169072565
6 Pin connectors http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/cables/connectors/
30amp Blocks http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300522058809?var=600010575320

Ill get the spades (or something) from local store once the PSU arrives

Yep, now you are ready to rock. For what it's worth, if you are not solder iron averse, ditch the spades and simply solder as it gives a more solid connection.
PS. Could not find any of those PCI-e Sockets with female pins for 49p from the link you gave .... or did I not look closely enough?

There not quite 49p but there close £1.15 for 2 with pins + shipping

http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/cables/connectors/12701/phobya-vga-power-connector-6pin-male-tapered-incl.-6-pins-2-pcs-black?c=2835

Also you say female? Have I just bought the wrong ones lol?

Theres also:
http://www.candccentral.co.uk/smart-vga-connectors/
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/6-Pin-Square-Female-VGA-Power-Connector-White_1082.html

[pekatete]

Everyone ok with this?


14awg cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390936118334?var=660299683939
16awg cable http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261125670100?var=560169072565
6 Pin connectors http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/cables/connectors/
30amp Blocks http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300522058809?var=600010575320

Ill get the spades (or something) from local store once the PSU arrives

Yep, now you are ready to rock. For what it's worth, if you are not solder iron averse, ditch the spades and simply solder as it gives a more solid connection.
PS. Could not find any of those PCI-e Sockets with female pins for 49p from the link you gave .... or did I not look closely enough?

There not quite 49p but there close £1.15 for 2 with pins + shipping

http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/cables/connectors/12701/phobya-vga-power-connector-6pin-male-tapered-incl.-6-pins-2-pcs-black?c=2835

Also you say female? Have I just bought the wrong ones lol?

Theres also:
http://www.candccentral.co.uk/smart-vga-connectors/
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/6-Pin-Square-Female-VGA-Power-Connector-White_1082.html

No, the sockets are male sockets but they take female pins (that may have been the confusion). And yes, I saw the 1.15 ones, not the 49p .....
EDIT: PS You got your crimping tool or are you going the pliers' way .... just joking!

[aarons6]

i think that new FW somehow messed up my miners..

since i got them they have been steady at 453 @225.

since i updated the FW and put the FW back to the 826 FW, reset them and put them back @ 225 one is 446 and one is 438.. also they keep beeping..

what do i do??


edit, i think the beeping is from ghash.io i have in the #3 spot keeps going down.. even tho i have it set to not beep.. any ideas on that too?

[mdude77]

i think that new FW somehow messed up my miners..

since i got them they have been steady at 453 @225.

since i updated the FW and put the FW back to the 826 FW, reset them and put them back @ 225 one is 446 and one is 438.. also they keep beeping..

what do i do??

You can always downgrade to the prior firmware.

M

[aarons6]

i think that new FW somehow messed up my miners..

since i got them they have been steady at 453 @225.

since i updated the FW and put the FW back to the 826 FW, reset them and put them back @ 225 one is 446 and one is 438.. also they keep beeping..

what do i do??

You can always downgrade to the prior firmware.

M

i did that.. and i updated the cgminer with the new 4.6 one..

they just arent working as hard as they were

its just not numbers either, my payouts have gone down.

[ltcnim]

I'm currently thinking about buying one of those. However, the price in the EU is kinda high (compared to the price from Bitmain directly (even with shipping)),
so I'd like to ask how many mBtc does one device generate at current diff in average per day? thanks in advance.

anyone? I'm looking for some real world numbers, not from a calculator. I just want to calculate how much I would be willing to pay for a S3+