ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread

[1Neptune]

I just got back from UPS to send my faulty board back to Bitmain.  The guy at the counter was amazed that the label was for Express service, and he said that costs over $1000 to do that!  If Bitmain would set up an advance replacement system (with a small BTC deposit for security against receiving the faulty unit), they could save that excessive cost in one direction of the warranty process.

I just sent them an email to that effect.  It's a win/win - Bitmain could save a lot of money by only having to ship the replacement part on the expensive service, and use a regular (cheap) service to receive the faulty.  The customer benefits by getting the replacement part first and won't have to shut down their mining hardware while waiting for the replacement (at least in cases unlike mine where they at least have a partially operable unit).

BITMAIN - PLEASE CONSIDER THIS!  Not only is it pretty much standard practice for a lot of manufacturers, in this case it actually will SAVE YOU A SHIPLOAD OF MONEY.    Add to that the side-effect of happy customers, I don't see how you can't implement this!

Can you give me a single example of an electronics manufacturer agreeing to send out a replacement part before they receive the defective part?!?!  Certainly not standard practice.

Also, companies that ship large amounts negotiate rates with the carriers directly, NO WAY that costs bitmain anything close to $1000!

For me HP and DELL sends replacement parts in advance.
They even sends new non-refurbished part in advance and takes the faulty parts in return.
They never asked me for any security deposit or credit card.

If you're doing that through the company you work for, HP (don't know about Dell) does that more than likely because your company has a maintenance contract with HP. For those without maintenance contracts, HP will send the replacement first if they can charge your credit card / your company's credit card, and then upon return of the defective unit they'll credit your charge card with whatever credit amount is stated for return cores. Been there, done that, many many times (with HP).

[dentro]

Batch 5 is sold out  any news about a further batch or will they going to sell from stock?

[allcoinminer]

Thanks for that...

So the 10 I have set up in my front room on a circuit with all my other living room electricals is overloaded then?
Only 10 per 20 amp breaker ?  So 50 in a house ?   With the house only being allowed 100 amp max?

My father who used to be a sparky on planes informed me it was amps to worry about, not volts, it was he who said these run on 12v so many would be fine...

Thanks

Anyone know how many of these I can safely power on a 20 amp breaker ?

I am useless when it comes to working this out.

I was told many would be fine due to using 12v.

But I would appreciate someone in the know answering.

Thanks in advance.

edit:  UK based, so 240v.

S3 uses 350W of power, stock. 20AMP is 4800W, so you can safely plug 12 S3s, to be on the safe side. Use a decent PSU, 80 Plus and keep it under 80% of PSU load.

Cheers

20A Breaker is for 240VAC and Antminer S3 consumes  28A+/12VDC in idle conditions.
Safe limit when setting a breaker is calculated to 125% load.
You should be conservative when sizing these things. Its not something like overclocking GPUs/ASICs
That means your can load a maximum of up to 16A in 240VAC that's roughly equal to 3840Watts power.
So, never cross at wall power consumption over 3840Watts.
Assume a good power supply will continuously deliver 80% efficiency and for running 1 S3 you need a power supply of minimum 425W.
So 425W is your at wall power consumption for a single Antminer S3.
Now its simple to calculate how many Antminers you can safely connect on your 20A AC breaker.
3840/425 = 9 S3. So, Keep a maximum of 9 Ant miner S3 on your 20A AC breaker. Anything above will violate your safety limits.

Using your maximum power of 240VAC/100A you may run up to 45 S3 (45=9*5).
Make sure you are deducting enough for other house appliances and keep your hour from a catastrophe.

[taipo]

Batch 5 is sold out  any news about a further batch or will they going to sell from stock?

There will be a batch 6 according to an email I just got from them.

[bones]

Thanks very much, all makes a lot more sense now.
So I guess I wont be buying as many more miners as I had hoped.
Do not really want to rent business space to mine, decisions decisions, hosting is to expensive...

Thanks again

Thanks for that...

So the 10 I have set up in my front room on a circuit with all my other living room electricals is overloaded then?
Only 10 per 20 amp breaker ?  So 50 in a house ?   With the house only being allowed 100 amp max?

My father who used to be a sparky on planes informed me it was amps to worry about, not volts, it was he who said these run on 12v so many would be fine...

Thanks

Anyone know how many of these I can safely power on a 20 amp breaker ?

I am useless when it comes to working this out.

I was told many would be fine due to using 12v.

But I would appreciate someone in the know answering.

Thanks in advance.

edit:  UK based, so 240v.

S3 uses 350W of power, stock. 20AMP is 4800W, so you can safely plug 12 S3s, to be on the safe side. Use a decent PSU, 80 Plus and keep it under 80% of PSU load.

Cheers

20A Breaker is for 240VAC and Antminer S3 consumes  28A+/12VDC in idle conditions.
Safe limit when setting a breaker is calculated to 125% load.
You should be conservative when sizing these things. Its not something like overclocking GPUs/ASICs
That means your can load a maximum of up to 16A in 240VAC that's roughly equal to 3840Watts power.
So, never cross at wall power consumption over 3840Watts.
Assume a good power supply will continuously deliver 80% efficiency and for running 1 S3 you need a power supply of minimum 425W.
So 425W is your at wall power consumption for a single Antminer S3.
Now its simple to calculate how many Antminers you can safely connect on your 20A AC breaker.
3840/425 = 9 S3. So, Keep a maximum of 9 Ant miner S3 on your 20A AC breaker. Anything above will violate your safety limits.

Using your maximum power of 240VAC/100A you may run up to 45 S3 (45=9*5).
Make sure you are deducting enough for other house appliances and keep your hour from a catastrophe.

[allcoinminer]

I just got back from UPS to send my faulty board back to Bitmain.  The guy at the counter was amazed that the label was for Express service, and he said that costs over $1000 to do that!  If Bitmain would set up an advance replacement system (with a small BTC deposit for security against receiving the faulty unit), they could save that excessive cost in one direction of the warranty process.

I just sent them an email to that effect.  It's a win/win - Bitmain could save a lot of money by only having to ship the replacement part on the expensive service, and use a regular (cheap) service to receive the faulty.  The customer benefits by getting the replacement part first and won't have to shut down their mining hardware while waiting for the replacement (at least in cases unlike mine where they at least have a partially operable unit).

BITMAIN - PLEASE CONSIDER THIS!  Not only is it pretty much standard practice for a lot of manufacturers, in this case it actually will SAVE YOU A SHIPLOAD OF MONEY.    Add to that the side-effect of happy customers, I don't see how you can't implement this!

Can you give me a single example of an electronics manufacturer agreeing to send out a replacement part before they receive the defective part?!?!  Certainly not standard practice.

Also, companies that ship large amounts negotiate rates with the carriers directly, NO WAY that costs bitmain anything close to $1000!

For me HP and DELL sends replacement parts in advance.
They even sends new non-refurbished part in advance and takes the faulty parts in return.
They never asked me for any security deposit or credit card.

If you're doing that through the company you work for, HP (don't know about Dell) does that more than likely because your company has a maintenance contract with HP. For those without maintenance contracts, HP will send the replacement first if they can charge your credit card / your company's credit card, and then upon return of the defective unit they'll credit your charge card with whatever credit amount is stated for return cores. Been there, done that, many many times (with HP).

No maintenance contract exists or any Credit card validations. It was only covered under warranty. I got like this many time.
Once the courier guy forgot to collect the return from us and left the return slip to us.
Later after 2 weeks I got a letter from Dell asking to return the product or pay the product cost.
Also got call from Dell to remind me about it. I then returned it the faulty product back to them.

[BITMAIN]

ANTMINER S3 Batch 6 sales open. 0.66BTC per S3 will be shipped on August 12th, shipping cost included.

[MoreBloodWine]

ANTMINER S3 Batch 6 sales open. 0.66BTC per S3 will be shipped on August 12th, shipping cost included.

Hope B5 see's some coupons.

[CryptoCrane]

ANTMINER S3 Batch 6 sales open. 0.66BTC per S3 will be shipped on August 12th, shipping cost included.

Thanks Bitmain, you kicked but with batch 5! Coupons in the near future?

[allcoinminer]

ANTMINER S3 Batch 6 sales open. 0.66BTC per S3 will be shipped on August 12th, shipping cost included.

Thanks Bitmain, you kicked but with batch 5! Coupons in the near future?

Coupon will only be there to push sales when sales slows down as any business we see around us.

[tom99]

Anyone know what kind shipping company that Bitmain use?

[Collider]

Anyone know what kind shipping company that Bitmain use?

ups and dhl

[nwfella]

ANTMINER S3 Batch 6 sales open. 0.66BTC per S3 will be shipped on August 12th, shipping cost included.

Hope B5 see's some coupons.

+1 that.  Expecting to get my unit(s) tomorrow!  I'm getting so stoked.  Are the coupons typically contained with the units themselves or are they transferred to our account's after delivery?

Trying to see if I can round up enough satoshi's to place an additional order for batch 6 assuming all goes well tomorrow.

[oskuro]

Anyone know what kind shipping company that Bitmain use?

ups and dhl

and EMS

[Bank Of Bitcoin]

Anyone know what kind shipping company that Bitmain use?

use usps for more easy and fast . but thats your choice while payment .

[ZiG]

Looks like batch 5 just sold out.

Batch 1 sold out in hours.
Batch 2 also sold out in hours.
Batch 3 sold out in less than a day.
Batch 4 sold out in about a day, maybe slightly more
Batch 5 finally sold out tonight, after being open for what, a couple of weeks?

Point being is the market saturated?

+1...

Batch 6 will be the last ...IMHO...

After that selling from stock...48 hours mode ...I hope...

Lower price is expected to follow...

ZiG

[WheresWaldo]

Looks like batch 5 just sold out.

Batch 1 sold out in hours.
Batch 2 also sold out in hours.
Batch 3 sold out in less than a day.
Batch 4 sold out in about a day, maybe slightly more
Batch 5 finally sold out tonight, after being open for what, a couple of weeks?

Point being is the market saturated?

batch 5 wasn't open for a couple of weeks.

[vortexz]

please don't be cheap BITMAIN, give coupons for batches 4 and 5 !

[1Neptune]

I just got back from UPS to send my faulty board back to Bitmain.  The guy at the counter was amazed that the label was for Express service, and he said that costs over $1000 to do that!  If Bitmain would set up an advance replacement system (with a small BTC deposit for security against receiving the faulty unit), they could save that excessive cost in one direction of the warranty process.

I just sent them an email to that effect.  It's a win/win - Bitmain could save a lot of money by only having to ship the replacement part on the expensive service, and use a regular (cheap) service to receive the faulty.  The customer benefits by getting the replacement part first and won't have to shut down their mining hardware while waiting for the replacement (at least in cases unlike mine where they at least have a partially operable unit).

BITMAIN - PLEASE CONSIDER THIS!  Not only is it pretty much standard practice for a lot of manufacturers, in this case it actually will SAVE YOU A SHIPLOAD OF MONEY.    Add to that the side-effect of happy customers, I don't see how you can't implement this!

Can you give me a single example of an electronics manufacturer agreeing to send out a replacement part before they receive the defective part?!?!  Certainly not standard practice.

Also, companies that ship large amounts negotiate rates with the carriers directly, NO WAY that costs bitmain anything close to $1000!

For me HP and DELL sends replacement parts in advance.
They even sends new non-refurbished part in advance and takes the faulty parts in return.
They never asked me for any security deposit or credit card.

If you're doing that through the company you work for, HP (don't know about Dell) does that more than likely because your company has a maintenance contract with HP. For those without maintenance contracts, HP will send the replacement first if they can charge your credit card / your company's credit card, and then upon return of the defective unit they'll credit your charge card with whatever credit amount is stated for return cores. Been there, done that, many many times (with HP).

No maintenance contract exists or any Credit card validations. It was only covered under warranty. I got like this many time.
Once the courier guy forgot to collect the return from us and left the return slip to us.
Later after 2 weeks I got a letter from Dell asking to return the product or pay the product cost.
Also got call from Dell to remind me about it. I then returned it the faulty product back to them.

Under warranty explains it. Try getting replacement parts from HP outside of the warranty period and without a maintenance contract. They won't be sending you anything without you paying for it first, then they'll reimburse you the credit for the core return value.

[1Neptune]

Looks like batch 5 just sold out.

Batch 1 sold out in hours.
Batch 2 also sold out in hours.
Batch 3 sold out in less than a day.
Batch 4 sold out in about a day, maybe slightly more
Batch 5 finally sold out tonight, after being open for what, a couple of weeks?

Point being is the market saturated?

batch 5 wasn't open for a couple of weeks.

How long was batch 5 open?