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There should be like staking pools.... People deposit there coins and it gets pooled with other coins so its like a big collective weight. Similar to how people used to how people solo mine (like we are soloing stake) and then went to pool mining. As the 1k block reward gets tougher to achieve, this sounds like a very plausible idea. What do you guys think?
that's a neat idea. Pool combines deposits and divides the stake. Pool takes a percentage fee. I think the pool would also need you to lock in your deposit until it stakes.. Could be a nice service for those with small holdings.
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Overall, good writeup. However, on your first paragraph, you're incorrect. The correct answer would be "If you don't do it the following way, make regular backups of wallet.dat". I'd also add that if you do NOT use a custom change address, make a backup, then add "keypool=1000" to the .conf file, and then after stopping the daemon or client and resynching, make another backup. This will put a very large amount of keys in the backup. And it harms nothing. Only caveat I can think of with that is to not do it on a Raspberry Pi as it will make wallet.dat quite a bit bigger. Given that they're just strings of text, I don't even know if that would be an issue.
Also I want to point out that in the latest release of the wallet (beta 1.0.6.6), the change is automatically sent to the sending address instead of generating a change address. In the OP the last Beta listed is 1.0.6.5 I down loaded 1.0.6.6 from a link a few pages ago and under Help>About HyperStake it shows 1.0.6.5 The HyperStake-qt file shows that it was modified at the time of install I noticed no changes in my wallet. Is this because my blocks are too young to stake? You might be using the wrong one. Mine does in fact show 1.0.6.6 on the about page. Try redownloading it, I updated the OP with the correct link. Thanks for the heads up! Windows 8.1 I tried again and this time it asked if I wanted to replace the file, yes! Still 1.0.6.5 I download qt.exe, still 1.0.6.5 I start it from file instead of desktop shortcut, 1.0.6.6 I delete desktop shortcut and create new shortcut, problem solved. The stake calculator doesn't work with coin control open but then again you can't access any other wallet options with coin control open.
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Hi, We will start the first HyperLoan experiment/promotionnal campaign today. What is HyperLoan?
The idea comes from cycoinminer A (relatively) new HYPster get 10k HYP as a loan. It is loaned for free. He keeps it until it stakes. Then he sends the 10k HYP back and keeps the reward. Max time for keeping the HYP is 30 days (can be decided shorter), so this leaves room for experimentation, smaller blocks and maybe (for the most audacious/lucky) even enough room for a second stake. So, essentially, consider it a 2k HYP giveway. The lucky chosen HYPster will have his nick on a hall of fame. What if...
The HYPster could very well disappear with the money. This is a gamble, an experiment, we expect the HYPster to play fair. If he doesn't, his nick will be on the Hall of Shame to be forever remembered as a scammer. What are the conditions?To be relatively new to HYP and to show interest - ideally, to also have not much HYP, but on this we can only trust the person to give us his real and only address. To maximise the chances, the candidate must have a sufficient amount of posts and be known by the HYP community - presence on the ANN, the IRC or the trollbox. This will be subjective. The selected HYPster is encouraged to proselytise HYP whenever he can. For instance, he could add to his signature " Proud winner of the HyperLoan" with a link to this very post. This is just a suggestion though. It is in his own interest to have HYP succeed and we expect him to act accordingly. Rather than hard rules about what to do, we prefer common sense. Such common. Much sense. Wow. Since this is the first time, we will only select one person (if it proves successfull, Part Deux will have more than one winner). Still, a shortlist of maximum 5 persons shall be established. This is YOU, the community, who will propose the name. People can propose themselves or someone else. You can win HyperLoan only once in your lifetime. Go! update: IstvanDV on IRC proposed that "the borrower would register new address in block explorer for better traking something like, mafort-HyperLoan". Let's elaborate on this. Do I qualify for this? I can also be a Promotor. My HYP address to check: pHEQffhDthwUafpyEBbnYHcdWjaqmyPB7S
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October 24, 2014, 05:04:47 AM |
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Difficulty 2.1814 very high ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ^^ Last time i checked was 1.2 , very secure network
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October 24, 2014, 06:02:45 AM |
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I made a custom RPC call tonight "export difficulty" and here are the results put to a chart. I exported them every 5 blocks past 21000 (thats when PoS only began) and then charted the average of every 5 cells so that it wasn't too much of a mess. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjkW38u4.jpg&t=665&c=ffyXKu8kuYyUkQ) I'm just going to leave this here... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGBMeHaA.jpg&t=665&c=McQETXhXx7eAJQ)
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October 24, 2014, 06:45:58 AM Last edit: October 24, 2014, 07:06:10 AM by Kushedout |
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There should be like staking pools.... People deposit there coins and it gets pooled with other coins so its like a big collective weight. Similar to how people used to how people solo mine (like we are soloing stake) and then went to pool mining. As the 1k block reward gets tougher to achieve, this sounds like a very plausible idea. What do you guys think?
I very much like this idea. This could be done manually trough a trust person if the wallet supported multiple stake for charity fields. So once staked, everyone would get their fair share. Like you said, "Staking Pool". Giving smaller player a chance to stake at a same rate. And this won’t be just for small players, even bigger holders sometime have change sitting around waiting for a stake so they can merge it to a bigger, resetting age in process. Which again could leave you with change waiting for another stake, and so on. So, instead of just sitting around for days waiting for a steak, it could be sent to the pool for faster block creation. And the pool operator can charge like 1-2% person fee for his services. Like any other pool.
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October 24, 2014, 07:04:58 AM |
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There should be like staking pools.... People deposit there coins and it gets pooled with other coins so its like a big collective weight. Similar to how people used to how people solo mine (like we are soloing stake) and then went to pool mining. As the 1k block reward gets tougher to achieve, this sounds like a very plausible idea. What do you guys think?
I very much like this idea. This could be done manualy trough a trust person if the wallet suported multiple stake for cherity fields. so once staked, everyone would get their fair share. Very nice and in addition I think of an kind of community fund for redistribution of the stake earned by the pool. The redistribution is on basis of time the wallet is online and "poor" members get more and also if people hold their rewards for weeks into their wallet. So the longer you take part of the pool the more reward you can get but a penalty if you send your coins to exchanges.
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October 24, 2014, 08:32:30 AM |
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Guys we need to get HYP added on bittrex. I believe it will boost the value of HYP if it is added in bittrex because there are lots of investors there. We all know that HYP is one of the best coin to invest.
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October 24, 2014, 08:50:40 AM |
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bittrex and cryptsy
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October 24, 2014, 09:07:55 AM |
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F*ck NO, you don't want HYP on Bittrex or Craptsy !! Because those f*ckers are staking POS coins from user deposits !!
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October 24, 2014, 09:45:43 AM |
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F*ck NO, you don't want HYP on Bittrex or Craptsy !! Because those f*ckers are staking POS coins from user deposits !!
how does POS coins normaly work on exchanges? Never owned any before. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 24, 2014, 10:20:01 AM |
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F*ck NO, you don't want HYP on Bittrex or Craptsy !! Because those f*ckers are staking POS coins from user deposits !!
how does POS coins normaly work on exchanges? Never owned any before. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What people are saying, is if YOUR HYP is sat in an exchange, then they'll use it to earn interest for themselves, whereas if you held your HYP in your own wallet on your PC, you'd earn the interest yourself. So basically, exchanges would benefit from holding yours (and others HYP) if they managed to hold onto it long enough to stake. Clearly not everything going into an exchange would stake, due to the time frame staking takes, but some people don't like the idea of them staking your money at all. I hope that helps.
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October 24, 2014, 12:30:54 PM |
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I made a custom RPC call tonight "export difficulty" and here are the results put to a chart. I exported them every 5 blocks past 21000 (thats when PoS only began) and then charted the average of every 5 cells so that it wasn't too much of a mess. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjkW38u4.jpg&t=665&c=ffyXKu8kuYyUkQ) Sweet ! Thanks Press.
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October 24, 2014, 12:31:18 PM |
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I think Poloniex has treated us well, and I wouldn't want to take any volume away from them by getting on Bittrex or Cryptsy. Actually, I think we would be better served by targeting BTER, BTC-E, and BTC38, all Eastern European and Asian exchanges in other words. I think it would attract new volume and users since those areas seem to be more interested in high PoS (as a matter of fact, I'm surprised "old guard" high PoS coins have never marketed over there). Also, these would probably be new users and not cannibalize any Poloniex volume ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Agreed. Any Asian HYPsters out here who can help with Chinese exchanges?
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October 24, 2014, 12:40:14 PM |
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Hi, We will start the first HyperLoan experiment/promotionnal campaign today. What is HyperLoan?
The idea comes from cycoinminer A (relatively) new HYPster get 10k HYP as a loan. It is loaned for free. He keeps it until it stakes. Then he sends the 10k HYP back and keeps the reward. Max time for keeping the HYP is 30 days (can be decided shorter), so this leaves room for experimentation, smaller blocks and maybe (for the most audacious/lucky) even enough room for a second stake. So, essentially, consider it a 2k HYP giveway. The lucky chosen HYPster will have his nick on a hall of fame. What if...
The HYPster could very well disappear with the money. This is a gamble, an experiment, we expect the HYPster to play fair. If he doesn't, his nick will be on the Hall of Shame to be forever remembered as a scammer. What are the conditions?To be relatively new to HYP and to show interest - ideally, to also have not much HYP, but on this we can only trust the person to give us his real and only address. To maximise the chances, the candidate must have a sufficient amount of posts and be known by the HYP community - presence on the ANN, the IRC or the trollbox. This will be subjective. The selected HYPster is encouraged to proselytise HYP whenever he can. For instance, he could add to his signature " Proud winner of the HyperLoan" with a link to this very post. This is just a suggestion though. It is in his own interest to have HYP succeed and we expect him to act accordingly. Rather than hard rules about what to do, we prefer common sense. Such common. Much sense. Wow. Since this is the first time, we will only select one person (if it proves successfull, Part Deux will have more than one winner). Still, a shortlist of maximum 5 persons shall be established. This is YOU, the community, who will propose the name. People can propose themselves or someone else. You can win HyperLoan only once in your lifetime. Go! update: IstvanDV on IRC proposed that "the borrower would register new address in block explorer for better traking something like, mafort-HyperLoan". Let's elaborate on this. I like the idea. Who will be donating the coins? Would it be a team effort or one of the whales?
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October 24, 2014, 03:49:59 PM |
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If any RaspberryPi stakers around interested, I've setup github with useful scripts related with HyperStake. https://github.com/zeewolfik/raspberrypi/tree/master/hyperstakeFor now I've put shell script for Raspbian which downloads wallet, blockchain and sets everything up&ready, just put your wallet.dat and you are ready to stake! If anyone willing to test it and share experience it would be nice. More things to come later (e.g. scripts for compiling wallets from sources) Awesome job. Looking forward for my Pi to arrive in the mail. Installed ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi872.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab282%2Fkawa900jc%2FCrypo%2F2014-10-24173208_zps2203349b.jpg&t=665&c=WkTAtC8qNRsCXA)
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October 24, 2014, 05:28:11 PM |
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Wow, those are nice! I love the celestial one. Good job Shrykez! Anyone send him HYP for this? If not, I will. Addy please Shrykez.
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October 24, 2014, 05:32:15 PM |
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Installed
Awesome it worked! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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