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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion  (Read 222508 times)
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July 07, 2016, 08:08:50 PM
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Just to be clear, I am saying this is a grey area because 100 ETH was confirmed at 3.32

The last 50 ETH was just stuck.. NO WHERE, not confirmed, or anything.

They sent me an email 4 hours later, after 2 events won, and the 3rd in a winning state, that there was a bug and they will be refunding me the last 50 ETH.

I understand what you're saying, and yes, I believe that the bet should be honored considering the circumstances.

If you believe that you shouldn't receive your money or that DirectBet has a choice in not paying you, then I'll back off and it won't be held against DirectBet in this thread.

The ticket says the bet was confirmed. It's your call.

Right, I'm trying to clarify here.  I DO believe that I should receive the 50 ETH parlay winnings from them.

They paid out BOTH confirmed 50 ETH legs of this bet (100 ETH x 3.32) ...

The last 50 ETH was in limbo.  No where.  Not confirmed, just no where.  Am I making sense?  I sent 50 ETH and it just sat in their wallet and didn't hit my bet.  It was sent 1 minute apart from the others expecting to go total 150 ETH on the bet.  This is because of the 50 ETH limit on some of these.



I understand. This has happened with DirectBet many times in the past with bitcoins, not ether. Please just tell me if you should be paid or shouldn't. If you say there is a grey area, then it will be disregarded.

Oh, there's no question in my mind if it should be paid or not.  It should BE PAID 100%.

But, I am saying that any confirmed bet I have ever had with them (listed as CONFIRMED) they have always paid me out.  1000s of ETH...

This specific instance, yes, I'm pissed, and their response time along with system failure, this bet should have been honored and paid.
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July 07, 2016, 08:12:34 PM
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I forget the correct amount of times this has happened, and will go back and count if contested by DirectBet. It may have happened 50 times in the past and may happen again. A bet should be confirmed or rejected prior to the start of a game or prior to a score.

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July 07, 2016, 08:14:05 PM
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I forget the correct amount of times this has happened, and will go back and count if contended by DirectBet. It may have happened 50 times in the past and may happen again. A bet should be confirmed or rejected prior to the start of a game or prior to a score.

Exactly.  My 50 ETH was stuck until TWO events were completed and successful and the third event was in a winning state.  I then get an e-mail notifying me it would be refunded.

This is why I'm pissed and I 100% think it should be paid out.  I didn't write the code, I'm just here gambling at your house.  You want me to keep coming back, you should honor bets when things like this happen.
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July 08, 2016, 01:34:12 AM
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In response to the previous comment,sportsbet.io should be ranked as F.Check out their official thread,running a fake promo lottery with terrible odds and false promotions to attract attention.To add,they're run by the same agencies running most of the mentioned above D rated websites.People are simply enjoying the few satoshi's paid by the agency to attract more attention....................

Things do seem fishy. They opened June 1st, claim to have 6.734 customers and to have given away $40,000 in raffles.

Do you have anymore information as far as previous agencies?

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July 08, 2016, 01:59:55 AM
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In response to the previous comment,sportsbet.io should be ranked as F.Check out their official thread,running a fake promo lottery with terrible odds and false promotions to attract attention.To add,they're run by the same agencies running most of the mentioned above D rated websites.People are simply enjoying the few satoshi's paid by the agency to attract more attention....................

Things do seem fishy. They opened June 1st, claim to have 6.734 customers and to have given away $40,000 in raffles.

Do you have anymore information as far as previous agencies?

There is no clear evidence that proves the raffle is rigged.  Maybe it's rigged, maybe it's not - this guy and a few others didn't win, and noticed some people winning several times.

My analysis: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.msg15438858#msg15438858

The owner seems to be responsible for scamming a bunch of players a few years ago on another site, mucho poker.

They were poker players though, I don't think they even took sports bets , so if peeps is consistent , this wont' affect their potential rating on his list since he doesn't understand that kinda thing...http://game-protect.com/sportsbet-bitcasino-io/

You've warned DirectBet a few times about their vulnerability and that haven't made any changes yet.

It makes it even more frustrating to see Betcoin consistently ranked high despite mountains of evidence proving how unethical they are.

And no, just because their biggest scandals have involved stealing from/fucking those who play poker or casino games and this thread is for sports bettors is no excuse to look the other way. 

It's like a parent hiring a criminal who has been convicted of kidnapping little girls to babysit their son.  He hasn't kidnapped any little boys though, right?

I've read many of your posts on poker and casinos. You've given great insight. I don't understand enough about casinos and poker rooms to come to any conclusions.

This thread only pertains to sportsbooks and it was stated at the beginning.


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July 08, 2016, 08:02:22 AM
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The owner seems to be responsible for scamming a bunch of players a few years ago on another site, mucho poker.


Why do you say he was involved in the Mucho poker incident ? In the ccase of Muchos poker, wasn't it banned for a reason not specified ? I don't recollect them scamming players in particular.

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July 08, 2016, 08:04:51 AM
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I've had zero problems through Euro 2106 betting with Direct Bet, 8 wins in a row with my profits rolled over each time:

Poland v Portugal , To Qualify , Portugal 50 ETH @ 2.66 Settled Won https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0xf99d8faece69f68b999e962da40d13fab5f56e94

Wales v Belgium , Both teams to Score? , Yes 10 ETH @ 2.08 Settled Won https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0xe193e94941436464654722337a920354cc0b3ee5

Wales v Belgium , To Qualify , Wales 30 ETH @ 3.05 Settled Won https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x06678250abb7ac8f0b1097bc0b7a075d1bb5f945

Wales v Belgium , Over/Under 2.5 Goals , Over 2.5 Goals 100 ETH @ 1.57 Settled Won https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x27a87192ebbc4a853936bb8f2e871937705a8513

Germany v Italy , To Qualify , Germany 200 ETH @ 1.56 Settled Won https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0xbbeb9d5bdc7486042d783c46b31af7daeeb473f1

France v Iceland , Match Odds , France 312 ETH @ 1.4 Settled Won https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x79b8292b62068c33c78648778bda19a16f508a3f

Portugal v Wales , To Qualify , Portugal 436 ETH @ 1.51 Settled Won https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x4727d9cd0a21c82dc5e3642af22f52440a8a42a6

Germany v France , Over/Under 1.5 Goals , Over 1.5 Goals 658 ETH @ 1.42 Settled Won https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=0x858490711dbf869a8c4cde76be775e6d146e7882
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July 08, 2016, 08:31:45 AM
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The owner seems to be responsible for scamming a bunch of players a few years ago on another site, mucho poker.


Why do you say he was involved in the Mucho poker incident ? In the ccase of Muchos poker, wasn't it banned for a reason not specified ? I don't recollect them scamming players in particular.

Just gathering info second hand on this one, not personally involved, so it's possible I'm wrong, but check out last few pages in this thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/muchos-poker-1189530/index11.html

Seems from 2012-2014 they were slow paying a few hundred at a time, likely in ponzi mode, and eventually just stopped.  Most balances were 4-8k range.  Posts got farther and farther apart, seems like the players just gave up.

JoeIngram1/ChicagoJoey was one of the players, maybe he'll bring some attention to it after wsop.

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July 11, 2016, 05:53:12 AM
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Be very careful with sportsbet.io

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SportsBet.io + BitCasino.io
sportsbet1) mBetSolutions N.V., a shell company incorporated in Curacao, is operator of the websites www.sportsbet.io and www.bitcasino.io. Managing Director of mBetSolutions N.V. is Timothy John Heath.

Timothy John Heath was also the Managing Director of Muchos Poker – Muchos Gaming N.V., also incorporated in Curacao. Muchos Poker embezzled player deposits and closed business owing money to customers, what you can read here.

2) sportsbet.io and bitcasino.io have a worthless Curacao eGaming license 1668/JAZ (curacao-egaming.com), with no control about finances or profitability of the licensee. Gambling companies usually also have no bank accounts/financial transactions in Curacao.

3) Too good to be true promotions without any evidence of the financial status of the company. Lock Poker had also amazing promotions with over 100% rakeback and the worthless 1668/JAZ Curacao eGaming license.

Good luck!

Updated: 3. July 2016 — 14:51
Tags: bitcasino.io, muchos poker, sportsbet.io, timothy john heath
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July 11, 2016, 11:32:47 AM
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I want give a vote for Direct Bet because is on of the best bookmakers, with great promo, fast reply on forum/emails, good assistance, never a delay on payments.

My vote is A+

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July 15, 2016, 12:02:32 PM
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I vote 4.5 for directbet one of the best sports betting sites in this forum  Smiley


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July 16, 2016, 12:36:37 AM
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Had to share my story regarding Twitchyseal and the level of his trolling. Twitchyseal contacted me on Instagram and offered me money to lie about Betcoin and their treatment of me. I, of course refused, because despite a few issues that were fixed promptly, enjoy Betcoin and look forward to playing here. This level of trolling is unacceptable. Look out for him. He is willing to do anything to put BetCoin's name in harms way. He has many usernames.
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July 16, 2016, 12:48:44 AM
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Had to share my story regarding Twitchyseal and the level of his trolling. Twitchyseal contacted me on Instagram and offered me money to lie about Betcoin and their treatment of me. I, of course refused, because despite a few issues that were fixed promptly, enjoy Betcoin and look forward to playing here. This level of trolling is unacceptable. Look out for him. He is willing to do anything to put BetCoin's name in harms way. He has many usernames.


Accusing someone without any valid proofs? Please provide the proof that Twitchyseal offered you some money to say something bad about betcoin.
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July 16, 2016, 01:08:22 AM
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https://gyazo.com/0d17256bea5d88c2bc49684dfc603f17

sent me under twitter username @betcoinagsteals
he deleted the rest
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July 16, 2016, 01:20:47 AM
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This is a good thread.
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July 16, 2016, 01:30:35 AM
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DirectBet lowered to "D-"

Player placed a 3 team parlay bet of 50 ETH at odds of 3.32. The bet was placed approximately 1 hour and 20 minutes prior to the start of the first game. After no confirmations, the player sent an email to DirectBet approximately 1 hour prior to the start of the first game.

After the first 2 games of the parlay won and the third game was winning, DirectBet sent an email stating that the bet would be refunded.

The ticket shows that the bet was confirmed at odds of 3.32.






There is a second case where ragernation placed a bet of 9.049 BTC. The bet was rejected by DirectBet. DirectBet did not refund the 9.049 BTC to ragernation.  DirectBet claimed that ragernation made another bet with a double spend and they have the right to confiscate 9.049 BTC. ragernation denies making the second bet and DirectBet has no evidence showing that ragernation did indeed make the second bet.




DirectBet should change the 0 confirmation system, it is vulnerable to people who have evil thought to double spend the transaction.
I love this 0 confirmation system actually, but because this causing bad things affected to directbet.eu accused confiscated players funds without any reason or any double spend evidence or even did not pay the winning .
I support directbet.eu as I play there and have zero problem such as this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.msg15510890#msg15510890
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July 16, 2016, 01:32:37 AM
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https://gyazo.com/0d17256bea5d88c2bc49684dfc603f17

sent me under twitter username @betcoinagsteals
he deleted the rest

Twitchyseal isn't an idiot though.  You are.

Thats how I can tell you are not me.

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July 18, 2016, 09:20:35 PM
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Yea direcbet never returned my bet. I'm sure they will strike again and take someone elses.

They just act like bullies and ignore all the while posting their spam. Pretty obvious

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543736.msg15574641#msg15574641

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/and-its-gone
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July 19, 2016, 05:30:40 PM
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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
betbtc.co C+(2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
predictious.com C- (2013)

"D" rated books
anonibet.com  D+ (2011)
coinbet24.com D (2016)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)
directbet.eu D- (2014)
sportsbet.io D- (2016)


"F" rated books
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BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
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