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April 30, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
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Anonibet and Directbet. odds and support very friendly.
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May 01, 2015, 03:21:10 AM
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Betcoin = 5
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May 01, 2015, 03:25:09 AM
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wait, i didnt see directbet in the list . why you didnt listed directbet? they have a good service so far

 
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May 01, 2015, 03:49:35 AM
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wait, i didnt see directbet in the list . why you didnt listed directbet? they have a good service so far

They were banned for shilling. They were also banned at the other rating's guide for shilling. They bring too much baggage and controversy.

If you look at the DirectBet thread title right now, they state that they were voted #1 by the bitcoin community. In actuality, they were taken off the poll for using shill accounts. This is what the voting thread states:
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May 01, 2015, 03:56:11 AM
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wait, i didnt see directbet in the list . why you didnt listed directbet? they have a good service so far

They were banned for shilling. They were also banned at the other rating's guide for shilling. They bring too much baggage and controversy.

If you look at the DirectBet thread title right now, they state that they were voted #1 by the bitcoin community. This is what the voting thread states
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FROZEN FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SYSTEM   directbet.eu ( 133 )referral link removed

oh really?since when? i cant see they are bad , last night i placed some bets and working fine no problem,

by the way can you give me reference about what you say? that " They were banned for shilling. They were also banned at the other rating's guide for shilling. They bring too much baggage and controversy."

 
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May 01, 2015, 03:57:30 AM
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wait, i didnt see directbet in the list . why you didnt listed directbet? they have a good service so far

They were banned for shilling. They were also banned at the other rating's guide for shilling. They bring too much baggage and controversy.

If you look at the DirectBet thread title right now, they state that they were voted #1 by the bitcoin community. This is what the voting thread states
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FROZEN FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SYSTEM   directbet.eu ( 133 )referral link removed

oh really?since when? i cant see they are bad , last night i placed some bets and working fine no problem,

by the way can you give me reference about what you say? that " They were banned for shilling. They were also banned at the other rating's guide for shilling. They bring too much baggage and controversy."


That isn't my quote. Here's RyanK's quote from his thread,
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DirectBet still claims to be #1 even though they were taken off the poll for using shill accounts.

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May 01, 2015, 04:02:52 AM
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wait, i didnt see directbet in the list . why you didnt listed directbet? they have a good service so far

They were banned for shilling. They were also banned at the other rating's guide for shilling. They bring too much baggage and controversy.

If you look at the DirectBet thread title right now, they state that they were voted #1 by the bitcoin community. This is what the voting thread states
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FROZEN FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SYSTEM   directbet.eu ( 133 )referral link removed

oh really?since when? i cant see they are bad , last night i placed some bets and working fine no problem,

by the way can you give me reference about what you say? that " They were banned for shilling. They were also banned at the other rating's guide for shilling. They bring too much baggage and controversy."


Here's RyanK's quote from his thread,
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FROZEN FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SYSTEM   directbet.eu ( 133 )referral link removed
DirectBet still claims to be #1.

i dont understand whats the point of

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Here's RyanK's quote from his thread,
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FROZEN FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SYSTEM   directbet.eu ( 133 )referral link removed
DirectBet still claims to be #1.

that causes directbet removed from rating's guide.

 
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May 01, 2015, 04:10:59 AM
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DirectBet was banned here first. They filled page after page with spam. Then they were banned at Ryan's thread for using shill accounts.

I was going to put them back on the guide here and went to their thread to keep up with what is happening there. After reading this
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May 01, 2015, 04:54:30 AM
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It looks like Casinobitcoin is the only books to have an over/under on the PacMan/Mayweather fight.

Nitrogen is the only one to have props, live betting, round specials, method of result, and grouped round betting.

I'm really looking forward to this fight although it should have taken place years ago.

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May 01, 2015, 05:47:40 AM
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BetCoin is screwing me over big time
Waiting over 2 days for my 1.84 btc withdrawal
im super-pissed right now ,am i ever gonna receive my money

A guy posts the above 5 days ago, buy you've still got BetCoin listed as a B book?

Followup?
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May 01, 2015, 05:49:09 AM
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Jetwin is one of the best books. It is the only one that really offers instant withdrawals, great bonuses and decent limits. System works smoothly, huge range of bets. You will not often meet such service even with the largest non-BTC sportsbooks.

"decent limits"...

Disagree. Ridiculously low limits.
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May 01, 2015, 06:59:51 AM
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BetCoin is screwing me over big time
Waiting over 2 days for my 1.84 btc withdrawal
im super-pissed right now ,am i ever gonna receive my money

A guy posts the above 5 days ago, buy you've still got BetCoin listed as a B book?

Followup?

joegamble- Has this been paid?

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May 07, 2015, 02:41:20 AM
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Fairlay
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obviously we will not pay. But if fairlay.com does not response in the next time this might be the reason. We will see how it goes but we are pretty confident that we can handle it even if fairlay.com is only hardly reachable for a short period of time.

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May 07, 2015, 04:58:32 PM
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As far as we monitored there was no delay for users at all.

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May 07, 2015, 05:02:42 PM
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Another update worth mentioning: we just added eSports to our site: https://www.fairlay.com/event/category-decimal/esports/

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Update


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May 11, 2015, 07:39:03 AM
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Jetwin offline for about 15 hours, 5 hours longer than they said they'd be offline for "maintenance", and have not updated in their thread. No explanation offered thus far.
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Jetwin offline for about 15 hours, 5 hours longer than they said they'd be offline for "maintenance", and have not updated in their thread. No explanation offered thus far.

Jetwin is now alive, they changed the domain to jetwin.ps
It is not installed with a valid ssl certificate yet, but they will install it later today.


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May 12, 2015, 06:47:32 AM
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I contacted many of the books to talk about withdrawal times. We are all frustrated when we don't get instant withdrawals. It seems that withdrawal times have slowed down in some cases rather than speed up. Here are some of the thoughts and feelings that I ascertained.

The solid bitcoin books are no longer one or two man operations. Most have double digit full time employees and have work outsourced as well. Full time employees include those in IT, trading, support and marketing. Some have locations in multiple countries.

The player base is growing at a fast rate. Unfortunately, with an increase in players comes an increase in fraudulent activity including hacking. All money is not kept in hot wallets. Players aren't required to give personal information to bitcoin books. Withdrawal amounts are becoming larger. If a book sends money to the wrong person, there is no recourse for the book. Because of this, books should be required to offer us a form of 2FA for our safety.

Some books have casinos as well as poker rooms. Casinos tend to bring about more fraudulent activity. There are a few more things that can trigger a manual review such as making multiple withdrawals in a short period of time, win rates above a certain amount of standard deviations, total amount of withdrawal, multiple accounts to circumvent limits or abuse bonuses.

Books may use a third party for grading purposes, in house grading, or two sources for verification. No matter what means are used, human input is needed in the process that can lead to mistakes. Manual grading may be required in small markets as well as prop bets. Outside of those two exceptions, grading should still be done at a very fast rate so that we can make additional bets if wanted.

Most books are stating that they are working to make withdrawals immediate if they aren't currently doing it. My personal feelings on withdrawals have changed somewhat after getting responses from the sports books. I feel that a vast majority of the withdrawals be done within a 15 minute period. Some withdrawals will take longer for above reasons, but it should be a low percentage. We should set some type of standard that books should adhere to when making withdrawals for the purpose of grades. Does anyone have opinions on withdrawal times?

Books- Feel free to chime in or discuss withdrawal times of your book.






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May 12, 2015, 09:06:35 AM
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Peeps - " Does anyone have opinions on withdrawal times?"

Yes. Instant.

As you mentioned, several books (like Nitro) have regressed.
Instant withdrawals were great for the customer, but now it can take 2.5 - 5 hours.

If they had specific problems with their instant withdrawals, then remedy the problems by improving their systems and software, rather than penalizing their customers with long wait times for withdrawals.

And honesty about withdrawal times would be refreshing. Don't state "It may take a few minutes once in awhile" if it's going to take hours fairly often.


The books should also allow one to opt out of Casino and Poker access, which are frequently used by hackers once they steal one's sportsbook funds, to move the funds out of the book, or gamble them away.
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