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February 19, 2017, 04:05:04 PM
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There are pay sites much more accurate than Alexa. The decrease shown by Alexa is unrealistic.

It's easy to manipulate Alexa.

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I’ve already written several blog posts about Alexa and how notoriously bad its statistics are. Not really surprising that they are bad if you know how the data for those statistics is gathered. For the bulk of their data Alexa relies on people installing the Alexa Toolbar (or a toolbar that passes information to Alexa). It’s this toolbar that monitors to which websites you go and how you end up on them.

This has as a result that demographic, used browsers, and even the country visitors are from influence the data that Alexa gathers about a website. This can introduce serious artefacts and biases into the collected data and basically makes the statistics generated from it worthless. At best it can give you an idea about how well a website is doing, but that doesn’t mean that what you’re seeing matches reality. I’ve already written a far more detailed blog post about how Alexa works and why you never should rely on the data it provides; it’s just too unreliable.

The best illustration I have about how unreliable Alexa’s statistics are is from when I compared HotWhopper and Real Sceptic. According to Alexa I had a higher ranking than HotWhopper and  HotWhopper’s Alexa ranking was dropping noticeably. But HotWhopper had fourteen times the number of pageviews and had nine times more visitors than Real Sceptic. What made it even worse was that HotWhopper’s pageviews and visitors were increasing. Statistics from direct measurements told a very different story than the one Alexa was telling.

It also made me wonder if it was possible to influence Alexa ranking/statistics. As Alexa does mention on their website that there are some other sources for the data they gather. Turns out this is surprisingly easy to do.
https://www.realskeptic.com/2014/05/14/another-reason-use-alexa-statistics-easy-manipulate/
1) Who manipulate betcoin.ag's Alexa rank recently and how?

2) If Alexa's rank is heavily inaccurate, you can be rest assured that betcon.ag would have already paid for pay sites, to get a more accurate statistic.

3) You should see in your affiliate billing that the revenue decreased recently.

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February 19, 2017, 05:29:44 PM
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Trying to catch up a bit, but does this leave 2 sportsbooks? Nitrogen and BitcoinRush?

One of which (BitcoinRush) no one outside of Peep on this forum even recommends? We handled over ~28,000 btc in bets (not a lot compared to the kings like Nitrogen, but still worth mentioning).


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Trying to catch up a bit, but does this leave 2 sportsbooks? Nitrogen and BitcoinRush?

One of which (BitcoinRush) no one outside of Peep on this forum even recommends? We handled over ~28,000 btc in bets (not a lot compared to the kings like Nitrogen, but still worth mentioning).


Surprised that you guys have stayed under the radar on most sites.

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February 20, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
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Trying to catch up a bit, but does this leave 2 sportsbooks? Nitrogen and BitcoinRush?

One of which (BitcoinRush) no one outside of Peep on this forum even recommends? We handled over ~28,000 btc in bets (not a lot compared to the kings like Nitrogen, but still worth mentioning).


Surprised that you guys have stayed under the radar on most sites.

Yea, I guess most people don't realize how small our team actually is compared to the big guys, we will be hiring shortly after our private equity opportunity is completed filled though.


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February 21, 2017, 03:42:30 AM
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New book - http://zombiewager.com/

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March 03, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
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Update:

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books
sportsbet.io C (2016)
anonibet.com  C- (2011)
cloudbet.com C-(2013)

"D" rated books
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
directbet.eu D+ (2014)
1xbit.com D (2016)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)
powerbet.io D (2016)





Exchanges
betbtc.co (2014)
fairlay.com (2014)
betmatch.is (2016

Prediction Markets
btcbet.us (2016)
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com  (2013)

Mutual Betting
Onehash.com



"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

BetVIP - closed 6/12/15

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betopen.co
bitgame.online
bitsport.bet
jetwin.ps  (2013)
mBitcasino
zombiewager.com


Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month

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March 05, 2017, 07:38:49 AM
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bitsport.bet - new book.

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March 05, 2017, 07:55:09 AM
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Your A- rated betcoin.ag sportsbook is recently in free fall on Alexa Global Rank: 163,185 - 55,576 = 51% down within 2 months!

So it might be dangerous to bet there...

- Betcoin.ag Alexa ranks: Global Rank:  163,185 - 55,576 = 51% down   Rank in US: 66,962  

- NitrogenSports Alexa ranks: Global Rank: 51,627 + 12,032 = 20% up   Rank in US: 12,591

Alexa is valid to trust or not?

It´s only to check visitors

That's right. Still in my opinion, Nitrogensports beats Betcoin.ag in both trust and popularity.

Yup, Nitro is the largest sportsbook in the bitcoin gambling community, odds and betting limits are best, cloudbet has larger limits but odds are lower now. Cloudbet's support is terrible as well.
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March 05, 2017, 09:38:38 AM
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bitsport.bet - new book.

Nice to know. I will try

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March 05, 2017, 12:18:31 PM
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bitsport.bet - new book.

No company name on their site plus Betconstruct software smells like scam.

/ also ridiculous betting limits. I can give you just one advice: Stay away from this site.
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March 05, 2017, 12:26:57 PM
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© 2014 - 2017 BITSPORT.BET

are they online since 2014?
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© 2014 - 2017 BITSPORT.BET

are they online since 2014?


According to their thread, they are new. I just contacted them to get more information.

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We are a new Sportsbook and Casino platform. We aiming to be the leading platform for BTC and LTC gambling. As you see we have one of the top gaming providers on our platform as NetEnt, Evolution, Ezugi etc.

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March 06, 2017, 02:56:44 PM
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BTW: Why is this thread not sticked on top?
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March 07, 2017, 04:53:12 AM
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© 2014 - 2017 BITSPORT.BET

are they online since 2014?


Bitsport opened in 2017. They seem easy to work with which is a definite plus. After more history and background, a rating will go up.

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March 07, 2017, 10:39:22 PM
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New to this but have been testing the top 3, NitrogenSports.eu, Betcoin.ag and Cloudbet.com for 1-2 weeks now and have not had a problem with a deposit or withdrawal or any customer service inquiry.  I will probably split my play on all three for awhile, but I am sure I am not alone in the great experience I have had on each.  This thread has been really helpful as well. 
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© 2014 - 2017 BITSPORT.BET

are they online since 2014?


Bitsport opened in 2017. They seem easy to work with which is a definite plus. After more history and background, a rating will go up.
Lie about a non-existing license is "easy to work with"? Yeah, lies are always a good start and good for your thread!
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March 07, 2017, 11:36:36 PM
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New to this but have been testing the top 3, NitrogenSports.eu, Betcoin.ag and Cloudbet.com for 1-2 weeks now and have not had a problem with a deposit or withdrawal or any customer service inquiry.  I will probably split my play on all three for awhile, but I am sure I am not alone in the great experience I have had on each.  This thread has been really helpful as well. 

Thanks for the input and welcome here.

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March 08, 2017, 06:46:07 AM
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New to this but have been testing the top 3, NitrogenSports.eu, Betcoin.ag and Cloudbet.com for 1-2 weeks now and have not had a problem with a deposit or withdrawal or any customer service inquiry.  I will probably split my play on all three for awhile, but I am sure I am not alone in the great experience I have had on each.  This thread has been really helpful as well. 

Trying just the top ones, you missed the best one in the list though. Powerbet has the best odds of all bitcoin sportsbooks and instant withdrawals - plus a very good bonus. Don't know why Peeps has it on D.
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March 08, 2017, 07:54:35 AM
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powerbet.io  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1710755.0


lol, powerbet.io deleted most of my posts 2 weeks ago and today they deleted the last 2 ones

They could delete these 2 posts 2 weeks ago but they did it only today

Perhaps they are in big trouble



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As i see you are an 1xbet/1xbit clone  (on markets and odds with different layout)

You cant void bets saying that the bettor is an arbitrag bettor, this is bullshit

Some traditional bookmakers tired to make such rules that arbitrage betting is not allowed ,   none of them in businnes now
And of corse if you would have  any gambling license then it wont take too long, if the bettor make a complaint to the regulator and you try to explain it you void those bets because of arbitraging


You have only the right to limit the user and if you detect he makes another account you can freeze it, if you have such rules that only one account allowed.


so you have to resettle those bets according to results




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https://powerbet.io/pages/terms
As i see  there is nothing about arbitrage betting in your tos  

Which is mega lol because until now i thought you have such rules

So you have no right to void any bets saying arbitrage betting


Jetwin also using such words " for recreational players" but as I remeber they voided my bets because they were very slow to update their lines and they voided them before the match started not afterwards and not only the winner ones, so mega unfair from powerbet


For me is very recreational  to get out a lot of money from the sportsbet industry  via arbitrage betting, it is free money , very  recreational  , it is so refreshing for me Wink

Please define what means recreational for you powerbet , i am not an expert in such not common words meaning






Since we got his approval, here are just a few bets that contain clear indications of arbitrage betting (the 1st and most important is the stake value, than betting on double result - aggressive arbitrage - and - not to be ignored - the leagues the bets are placed on, which can also be a sign of arbitrage), of a rather long list:

Sc-esv Parndorf vs Ask Royal Sped Klingenbach   Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 92.27

Arsenal Tula vs Shakhtyor Karagandy Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 51.39

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia   Three Way - Cska Sofia Stake 40.04

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia   Three Way - Draw Stake 51.82

The list can continue with stakes such as: 15.79, 8.84, 66.18, 132.21, 36.49, 94.05, 94.85, 58.61, 40.37 and so on.

For the punter, we strongly suggest this article: http://sportsarbitrageguide.com/avoiding_bookmaker_limits.php


This is probably behavioural pattern of an arber but its not actually proof that the customer is arbing.

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Another question :

Did you void the winner bets only  or the loser ones too ?




Only winner bets. After last two wins my balance should have been 510 mbtc and thay updated it to 0. No details nothing and just banned me permanently.



We have this healthy habit of deleting useless "educated" (actually pure troll posts that won't change our policy against arbers) posts from random people. The arbiter complaint is there as well as our resolution to it. We consider this enough info for potential arbitrators to decide if they want to try their luck with us. As mentioned before, anyone can feel free to start their own thread about arbitrage policies of various bookies, including us of course, but please refrain yourself from posting such oppinions on our thread.

@OP, sorry for the intrusion on your thread - a very good one actually, but we felt this forum user that we quoted deserved a final reply from us. Maybe more arbitrators will finally understand that we have a strict policy against arbitrage, and we'll retroactively void arbitrage bets once deemed as such by clear indicators.

Hi powerbet,

Thanks for posting and feel free to post at any time.

The recreational bettor only clause is standard and used by most books.

As far as arbs go, are you talking in-house arbs where the player buys back the other side at powerbet to gain a profit. All bets are at powerbet? If that's the case, then you can cancel wagers.

If you are assuming that a player is an arbitrage player using powerbet with another book, then the accusation of a player being an arbitrage bettor isn't valid.

As far as the bonus goes, when a book has 100% bonus with an 8x rollover, it's going to draw many that multi-account. A book that accuses a player of multi-accounting must have air tight evidence that the player did indeed break the rules by multi-accounting.

This thread is a player protection thread. The rules that you have in place that have been invoked are for lower tiered books that should be avoided. Top books do not confiscate winnings.

You can ban a player, limit a player, but never confiscate winnings. A book that cancels winners free rolls players. The book keeps the losers and voids the winners. This isn't acceptable.
Bump for Iulius69's question on powerbet.

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