#1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus

[slaman29]

If money were returned because of self exclusion, then many would be betting futures/outrights and excluding themselves when the future bet looked bad.

Many books have rules in place that are never invoked. Confiscating funds because of self exclusion should not be invoked. The player should be banned and all winnings paid along with futures that may accrue after self exclusion.

By the letter of the law, Sportsbet is allowed to confiscate the player's funds. If Sportsbet does confiscate money, it is showing to be a lower tiered book. This type of situation is why sportsbet does not have a high rating.

I'm glad you're keeping track of this. There are so many shady dealings going on especially just because these guys can hide behind a non-identified entity of an online casino, and it's really good you make it known about these guys.

Letter of law doesn't make things right, and I'm sure even TOS can be argued to be unfair. Simply put, you can't steal a person's money, whether or not the person did a bad thing.

I agree that you can't return funds after self exclusion, that is open to abuse. Ban player, let them only access tickets. Then settle the tickets and that is it.

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[bitcoin31]

The ratings is help to us to know what is best and good bitcoin sportbooks so we can decide where we gonna play because in this thread we can see there is a lot of list of the bitcoin gambling site and they have different criteria to grade and newbie who want to gambling their money who number 1 benefits this.

[raven7886]

One last warning prior to the Super Bowl. It's highly recommended to only have money in top books until some payouts after the Super Bowl. Some books may take the added money from Super Bowl bets as an opportunity to run with player's funds and close shop.

That is the worst financial decision anyone could really make. If you own a sportsbook and many people gamble on your website for the super bowl that means you are getting great customer numbers and wagered amounts. Even tough the odds are probably against the sportsbook on that game (its likely that the winner is getting less odds but still a loss) you will get that back from the customers who found out about your website during the search for superbowl betting.

Everyone could bet on big websites like nitrogen and so forth which means if they are not going with big ones and select your smaller website, do not run them away from you, find a way to keep them, offer people who bet on superbowl some promotions and bonuses for the next bets they will have, that way you can steer them away from big websites to yours, running away can give you one big win but keeping them there will give you big wins all the time.

[Peeps Place]

One last warning prior to the Super Bowl. It's highly recommended to only have money in top books until some payouts after the Super Bowl. Some books may take the added money from Super Bowl bets as an opportunity to run with player's funds and close shop.

That is the worst financial decision anyone could really make. If you own a sportsbook and many people gamble on your website for the super bowl that means you are getting great customer numbers and wagered amounts. Even tough the odds are probably against the sportsbook on that game (its likely that the winner is getting less odds but still a loss) you will get that back from the customers who found out about your website during the search for superbowl betting.

Everyone could bet on big websites like nitrogen and so forth which means if they are not going with big ones and select your smaller website, do not run them away from you, find a way to keep them, offer people who bet on superbowl some promotions and bonuses for the next bets they will have, that way you can steer them away from big websites to yours, running away can give you one big win but keeping them there will give you big wins all the time.

In the past, there have been fiat books that left right after the Super Bowl. One had a unique line and others have given away some nice bonuses for the Super Bowl. If a book plans to leave, next week is the time to do it. Half the bitcoin books have gone under.

[Peeps Place]

Hey Peeps-

I've been trying to access to my Anonibet account since September, 2017.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg21877924#msg21877924

Anonibet hasn't been active here since July 24, 2018.


Anonibet hasn't been active on Twitter since August 11, 2018
https://twitter.com/Anonibet

When I try to log-in to my account, I am asked to email Support from my original registered email account; which I have done.

I am wondering if Anonibet has already exited; but you have them listed as a "C" rated Sportsbook.

Can you help get in contact with Anonibet; I'd really like some assistance in accessing my account.

Much appreciated!

Check PM. You should be good to go. Anonibet even made an appearance in their thread today.

[sportsbet.io]

Hi Guys,

I just stumbled over this thread! apologies for the delay! Im new to looking after some of the customer comments here on the forum but have been with Sportsbet.io from the start.

So ANY questions you want to ask me, ill answer them 100% honestly.. regardless if you agree with the answers or not. 

We have some great things happening in 2019 and we want you all on the journey with us.

This week we launched Horse Racing! come to our site and check it out..

I wish I could tell you what my boss is doing next week in a Western European Country, but its Soccer season and some BIG competitions are playing in Western Europe! As soon as I can, Ill tell ya.    ( Remeber this COMMENT!)

We have a Superbowl Free Spin promotion going on this weekend. Check out our promo page for more detail.

We have the most responsive 24/7 live chat sportbook chat agents on the planet, come and test them out! any probs at all, message/post them here and Ill look after it.   

thanks lads,

Steve
sportsbet.io

[Peeps Place]

Hi Guys,

I just stumbled over this thread! apologies for the delay! Im new to looking after some of the customer comments here on the forum but have been with Sportsbet.io from the start.

So ANY questions you want to ask me, ill answer them 100% honestly.. regardless if you agree with the answers or not.  

We have some great things happening in 2019 and we want you all on the journey with us.

This week we launched Horse Racing! come to our site and check it out..

I wish I could tell you what my boss is doing next week in a Western European Country, but its Soccer season and some BIG competitions are playing in Western Europe! As soon as I can, Ill tell ya.    ( Remeber this COMMENT!)

We have a Superbowl Free Spin promotion going on this weekend. Check out our promo page for more detail.

We have the most responsive 24/7 live chat sportbook chat agents on the planet, come and test them out! any probs at all, message/post them here and Ill look after it.  

thanks lads,

Steve
sportsbet.io

Hi Steve,

Thanks for posting in this thread and for the PM today. Here are some of the reasons for the "D-" rating.

1. Margins - The margins (odds) at Sportsbet are very high. It's almost impossible for a player to overcome that type of hold with vanilla lines.

2. Self exclusion - When a player asks for self-exclusion, Sportsbet steers the player towards taking a temporary ban.

3. Areezy - Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play. Areezy has given me permission to look into his account. If there is something that is missing, please PM.

4. KYC/AML - There are rare cases where KYC may be required. Sportsbet is heavy handed on KYC and confiscated 21.5 BTC form a player of which 15 BTC was from his deposit.

5. Double spend claims - Sportsbet should wait for 1 confirmation if they are going to confiscate funds for an "accused" double spend attempt.

6. Communication - A PM was sent to all books asking if they banned players from the UK or US. Every book replied within a day except Sportsbet.

[slaman29]

Cool to see Sportsbet.io come in here and speak for themselves. Will be much cooler if they actually address some of the things that's putting them in the D category. New promotions are all welcome, but if the old problems can't go away, it's something that players never forget.

High claim to have most responsive chat agents too! Are they also good at discussing technical issues?

[PlayBetr]

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[Peeps Place]

Cool to see Sportsbet.io come in here and speak for themselves. Will be much cooler if they actually address some of the things that's putting them in the D category. New promotions are all welcome, but if the old problems can't go away, it's something that players never forget.

High claim to have most responsive chat agents too! Are they also good at discussing technical issues?

Agree 100%. I hope Steve jumps back in again to address those questions.

[Peeps Place]

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[bitgolden]

Sportsbet came in and saw the questions and ran back away. What are they suppose to say ?
Yeah, we stole money from people with super efficiency and find the best case scenario of what we can make from each and one of you ?

It is impossible to get them confess but we all know the truth. If a person has a self exclusion from the games that is one thing and I can understand voiding the bets however when a bet is still active and self exclusion has no end date it means game should continue and considering he was winning the bet and Liverpool will win the only reason why they gave him the money back and voided the bet is that he was winning.

What happens if someone gambles on Leicester to win the league and then realizes he is not going to win, will they just void his bet and give him his money back ? No chance at all, if that was the case I could just put in 10k dollars into all games and whenever the champion is looking like its decided I will void all other accounts and keep only the winning one and make myself rich quite quickly. They only paid him back because he was winning, they wouldn't pay him back if he was losing, simple as that.

[areezy]

Sportsbet came in and saw the questions and ran back away. What are they suppose to say ?
Yeah, we stole money from people with super efficiency and find the best case scenario of what we can make from each and one of you ?

It is impossible to get them confess but we all know the truth. If a person has a self exclusion from the games that is one thing and I can understand voiding the bets however when a bet is still active and self exclusion has no end date it means game should continue and considering he was winning the bet and Liverpool will win the only reason why they gave him the money back and voided the bet is that he was winning.

What happens if someone gambles on Leicester to win the league and then realizes he is not going to win, will they just void his bet and give him his money back ? No chance at all, if that was the case I could just put in 10k dollars into all games and whenever the champion is looking like its decided I will void all other accounts and keep only the winning one and make myself rich quite quickly. They only paid him back because he was winning, they wouldn't pay him back if he was losing, simple as that.

Exactly, they ignore all my emails. I have no words for them, I been a customer since 2016.. its a shame.

[Ziskinberg]

Exactly, they ignore all my emails. I have no words for them, I been a customer since 2016.. its a shame.

So I believe you are not gambling anymore with sportsbet because you have a bad experience with the site.
Actually you made your thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103517.msg49574254#msg49574254 but seems like
you are not getting what your expecting, so may I know what is your current sportsbook now? Tell us something about your experience.

[Peeps Place]

Sportsbet came in and saw the questions and ran back away. What are they suppose to say ?
Yeah, we stole money from people with super efficiency and find the best case scenario of what we can make from each and one of you ?

It is impossible to get them confess but we all know the truth. If a person has a self exclusion from the games that is one thing and I can understand voiding the bets however when a bet is still active and self exclusion has no end date it means game should continue and considering he was winning the bet and Liverpool will win the only reason why they gave him the money back and voided the bet is that he was winning.

What happens if someone gambles on Leicester to win the league and then realizes he is not going to win, will they just void his bet and give him his money back ? No chance at all, if that was the case I could just put in 10k dollars into all games and whenever the champion is looking like its decided I will void all other accounts and keep only the winning one and make myself rich quite quickly. They only paid him back because he was winning, they wouldn't pay him back if he was losing, simple as that.

Great post.


Now that the Super Bowl is over, please post if any payouts are taking longer than 2 hours. All other feedback is appreciated. There should be some changes in the next week.

[sportsbet.io]

Hi Guys,

I just stumbled over this thread! apologies for the delay! Im new to looking after some of the customer comments here on the forum but have been with Sportsbet.io from the start.

So ANY questions you want to ask me, ill answer them 100% honestly.. regardless if you agree with the answers or not.  

We have some great things happening in 2019 and we want you all on the journey with us.

This week we launched Horse Racing! come to our site and check it out..

I wish I could tell you what my boss is doing next week in a Western European Country, but its Soccer season and some BIG competitions are playing in Western Europe! As soon as I can, Ill tell ya.    ( Remeber this COMMENT!)

We have a Superbowl Free Spin promotion going on this weekend. Check out our promo page for more detail.

We have the most responsive 24/7 live chat sportbook chat agents on the planet, come and test them out! any probs at all, message/post them here and Ill look after it.  

thanks lads,

Steve
sportsbet.io

Hi Steve,

Thanks for posting in this thread and for the PM today. Here are some of the reasons for the "D-" rating.

1. Margins - The margins (odds) at Sportsbet are very high. It's almost impossible for a player to overcome that type of hold with vanilla lines.

2. Self-exclusion - When a player asks for self-exclusion, Sportsbet steers the player towards taking a temporary ban.

3. Areezy - Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play. Areezy has given me permission to look into his account. If there is something that is missing, please PM.

4. KYC/AML - There are rare cases where KYC may be required. Sportsbet is heavy handed on KYC and confiscated 21.5 BTC form a player of which 15 BTC was from his deposit.

5. Double spend claims - Sportsbet should wait for 1 confirmation if they are going to confiscate funds for an "accused" double spend attempt.

6. Communication - A PM was sent to all books asking if they banned players from the UK or US. Every book replied within a day except Sportsbet.

Morning All,

First of all, I can't believe I missed the Superbowl! Looked like a cracking game.

Second, I usually use this thread here to pump out my promos. ( yes, i pretty much will be doing the main sports promotions this year )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4160

Thirdly, we payed out a 75,000 euro multi bet the other week that was cashed out after 10 winning legs and the 11th leg actually was lost!
Another 110,000 euros was paid to a customer who had a good weekend betting on Basketball Qtr totals.
My boss is very happy to pay out big and fast! When I first started in the industry I was scared of the big wins! but as my boss always says, if the customer wins, give them their money!

Anyhow! onto the above Questions of the day, and then Ill pay out our Superbowl promotion!

1. Margins - yeah a popular Q for most books I guess. I know some leagues we are near market leaders, and on some we struggle a bit. Our trading team and Sportsbook Director are trying to find the best balance. For value Id recommend taking our daily price boost on EACH SPORT! yes.. that = >20 potential price boosts daily.
2. Self Exclusion- Not really my or trading/ops guys area, we have a particular person fully responsible for every case. She is extremely experienced as she is from one of the worlds biggest bookmakers. When She speaks, we listen.
3. Abreezy - As mentioned in a personal message, its pretty clear you are not getting all the correct information here. I won't be going into the dirty detail, but rest assured, the result was in the best interest of the customer on the information abreezy provided us.
As for this: ''Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play''
Unfortunately, pretty much we can. We haven't done it in the past as it is unethical, but this was a situation that needed to be urgently done. I couldn't careless if Liverpool win or not. its half a bitcoin payout and we do that on an hourly basis. This is not the financial amount that is the issue. As mentioned, we were left with no option but to proceed down this path after a long period of discussion with the customer in question.

4. KYC procedure: Out of my jurisdiction, but i can tell you that my boss pays out any winnings. Im not sure of this case in question, but if money was confiscated, once again Id say that player in question has not filled all of us in with the full and correct information here.

5. Probably. Ill mention it to our support payouts team.

6. Apologies on missing that email. We had a few guys looking after the forums in the past and Im not sure what happened.


Have a good Monday all and speak again soon!

regards,

Steve,
Sportsbet.io

[Peeps Place]

Hi Guys,

I just stumbled over this thread! apologies for the delay! Im new to looking after some of the customer comments here on the forum but have been with Sportsbet.io from the start.

So ANY questions you want to ask me, ill answer them 100% honestly.. regardless if you agree with the answers or not.  

We have some great things happening in 2019 and we want you all on the journey with us.

This week we launched Horse Racing! come to our site and check it out..

I wish I could tell you what my boss is doing next week in a Western European Country, but its Soccer season and some BIG competitions are playing in Western Europe! As soon as I can, Ill tell ya.    ( Remeber this COMMENT!)

We have a Superbowl Free Spin promotion going on this weekend. Check out our promo page for more detail.

We have the most responsive 24/7 live chat sportbook chat agents on the planet, come and test them out! any probs at all, message/post them here and Ill look after it.  

thanks lads,

Steve
sportsbet.io

Hi Steve,

Thanks for posting in this thread and for the PM today. Here are some of the reasons for the "D-" rating.

1. Margins - The margins (odds) at Sportsbet are very high. It's almost impossible for a player to overcome that type of hold with vanilla lines.

2. Self-exclusion - When a player asks for self-exclusion, Sportsbet steers the player towards taking a temporary ban.

3. Areezy - Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play. Areezy has given me permission to look into his account. If there is something that is missing, please PM.

4. KYC/AML - There are rare cases where KYC may be required. Sportsbet is heavy handed on KYC and confiscated 21.5 BTC form a player of which 15 BTC was from his deposit.

5. Double spend claims - Sportsbet should wait for 1 confirmation if they are going to confiscate funds for an "accused" double spend attempt.

6. Communication - A PM was sent to all books asking if they banned players from the UK or US. Every book replied within a day except Sportsbet.

Morning All,

First of all, I can't believe I missed the Superbowl! Looked like a cracking game.

Second, I usually use this thread here to pump out my promos. ( yes, i pretty much will be doing the main sports promotions this year )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4160

Thirdly, we payed out a 75,000 euro multi bet the other week that was cashed out after 10 winning legs and the 11th leg actually was lost!
Another 110,000 euros was paid to a customer who had a good weekend betting on Basketball Qtr totals.
My boss is very happy to pay out big and fast! When I first started in the industry I was scared of the big wins! but as my boss always says, if the customer wins, give them their money!

Anyhow! onto the above Questions of the day, and then Ill pay out our Superbowl promotion!

1. Margins - yeah a popular Q for most books I guess. I know some leagues we are near market leaders, and on some we struggle a bit. Our trading team and Sportsbook Director are trying to find the best balance. For value Id recommend taking our daily price boost on EACH SPORT! yes.. that = >20 potential price boosts daily.
2. Self Exclusion- Not really my or trading/ops guys area, we have a particular person fully responsible for every case. She is extremely experienced as she is from one of the worlds biggest bookmakers. When She speaks, we listen.
3. Abreezy - As mentioned in a personal message, its pretty clear you are not getting all the correct information here. I won't be going into the dirty detail, but rest assured, the result was in the best interest of the customer on the information abreezy provided us.
As for this: ''Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play''
Unfortunately, pretty much we can. We haven't done it in the past as it is unethical, but this was a situation that needed to be urgently done. I couldn't careless if Liverpool win or not. its half a bitcoin payout and we do that on an hourly basis. This is not the financial amount that is the issue. As mentioned, we were left with no option but to proceed down this path after a long period of discussion with the customer in question.

4. KYC procedure: Out of my jurisdiction, but i can tell you that my boss pays out any winnings. Im not sure of this case in question, but if money was confiscated, once again Id say that player in question has not filled all of us in with the full and correct information here.

5. Probably. Ill mention it to our support payouts team.

6. Apologies on missing that email. We had a few guys looking after the forums in the past and Im not sure what happened.


Have a good Monday all and speak again soon!

regards,

Steve,
Sportsbet.io

Steve,

I respect you for coming back to address each point. On 1-4, I strongly disagree. I don't want to rip into each answer but feel that your rating is justified. It looks like you brought people from Will Hill, although Will Hill would never do what you are doing. One thing I'd like to correct is point 1 on your odds:

Using the top 3 books, Nitrogen, Betcoin and Bitcoinrush along with Sportsbet, to rank margins (odds):

A) EPL - Sportsbet last. The hold is more than double of the other 3.
B) Other Major European Major Soccer - Sportsbet last.
C) UEFA Champions League - Sportsbet last.
D) UEFA Nationals League - Sportsbet 3rd of the 4.
E) Baseball - Sportsbet last.
F) NFL - Sportsbet last.
G) ATP Tennis - Sportsbet last.
H) WTA Tennis - Sportsbet last.
I) MMA - Sportsbet 3rd.
J) UFC - Sportsbet 3rd.
K) NBA - Sportsbet 3rd.
L) NHL - Sportsbet 3rd.

Odds courtesy of Darkstar.

[Supercrypt]

I can attest that bitcoinrush credits the account with the wins already. It is definitely quick and I am really happy with it. Not only they have the greatest odds, they are also very quick on anything else. Deposits, withdrawals, adding games, paying out the wins, helping on support, answering on the topic. Basically anything you would want the sportsbook to be fast about they are. That is the only feedback I can give about so far, I also played on nitrogen however I can't check it right now since I forgot my password and it is saved on my PC's google (who really types their password anymore ) so I will notify about them when I get there as well but I am sure that works as well. It is really great that we have this much of a big game every year, it makes it super fun for at least a day.

[Peeps Place]

I can attest that bitcoinrush credits the account with the wins already. It is definitely quick and I am really happy with it. Not only they have the greatest odds, they are also very quick on anything else. Deposits, withdrawals, adding games, paying out the wins, helping on support, answering on the topic. Basically anything you would want the sportsbook to be fast about they are. That is the only feedback I can give about so far, I also played on nitrogen however I can't check it right now since I forgot my password and it is saved on my PC's google (who really types their password anymore ) so I will notify about them when I get there as well but I am sure that works as well. It is really great that we have this much of a big game every year, it makes it super fun for at least a day.

Thanks Supercrypt.

To all, please keep feedback coming in.

[DarkStar_]

1. Margins - yeah a popular Q for most books I guess. I know some leagues we are near market leaders, and on some we struggle a bit. Our trading team and Sportsbook Director are trying to find the best balance. For value Id recommend taking our daily price boost on EACH SPORT! yes.. that = >20 potential price boosts daily.

Wanted to add that even with the price boost, odds can be quite bad. You're running 1.87 evens on NBA which turn into 1.95 evens after a boost, which is the same as what BitcoinRush is offering except it's unlimited and doesn't depend on a promotion. Other major markets aren't as bad, but it's pretty disappointing that you only manage to match the market leaders with a promotion.