Efxes just posted this and I thought I should share it here:
They stole $15,000 from me in bitcoin. They have done it to countless other people. They are constantly stealing from people and not paying them. The only way they pay is if you find a way to prevent people from depositing and things. They are truly a virus on the community. There are tons of people talking about how they just confiscated $15,000 of my deposits with vague TOS rules, and we are just bumping their thread further and many people are just seeing Cloudbet advertised and not following what is going on.
You guys should see all of the scams in the past the site has been dealing with. They owe me $15,000 and countless others. You can follow
my scam accusation thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277995.0You can also see a list of about 30 scam threads started from different people over the years here:
I just went in their discord chat and there was another message from the chat who said they rolled him for 2 BTC ($20,000) and they aren’t paying him back either.
I know how the place operates. They offer an extremely wide selection of odds to anonymous users who use only crypto-currency- this leaves their sportsbook extremely vulnerable to any sharp action or syndicate bettors who can take advantage of obscure betting lines and matches. Then when they begin to get hit, they find ways to just ban any winning bettor and confiscate the money.
They confiscate the money not only to profit themselves and put it back into marketing budget to get losing gamblers, but they also want to break any winning bettor so that they don’t come back and make a new account and continue to gamble with them.
Instead of Cloudbet using this model and scamming people left and right, how about they just offer less betting lines and higher juice and not be an entirely thieving corporation?
Also their username has begun to get serious amounts of flags and some negative trust rating, and I hope it continues and they are completely banned from the site and their thread taken down. See their profile here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154563They have a legendary account and guess what, positive trust ratings mostly due to influencer marketing and signature campaigns. They are bringing in new suckers to steal money from. If they don’t win it by gambling losses, they take the money by force. Any long term winner on the site will get KYC’d and served some sort of TOS to keep the funds, or they’ll just hold it indefinitely and not even respond. I’ve seen it all.
Can we get rid of this thieving site? How about you return my money first, Cloudbet? Again, see the scam accusation thread and decide for yourself if these people should still have a place on bitcointalk as a legendary person. I don’t think so. I will ask others who know about what is going on to weigh in on this thread and I hope you do keep it up. We need to clean up these scammers from the crypto community- they are obviously rampant with what they can get away with being anonymous.
Again they need to change their business model so that they don’t need to scam people in order to survive as a casino.
They want to take $15,000 from me, out of my deposits and say since I am a winning account they can do that #1 and #2 they are saying that because I logged in from a USA IP and have a permanent residence in USA that I could not have been gambling on their account for 3 months from Mexico where I have been staying during the pandemic since I am out of work. I need the funds for my day to day life, they were processing tons of deposits and cashouts. See here all my deposits to the site.
Here are all of the deposits I had made to the site in the last days.
2020-09-20 02:03
-62.870026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/2b5e75e192cdb526bdd9d2b533e7d2831a7c1b396dabb7c140d0d6d7f56f11ff2020-09-20 03:42
-30.000043:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/01e511b44f7764c5c0777d5e05bb0a0469735dac1986f7e1c7ce88a3291658042020-09-20 03:42
-40.000043:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/e65e1d247510d1b3eadfd9b60e60e684317aef3d05c89bcea63899e56f65e70f2020-09-20 04:35
-25.000026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/b9ff51ded44267f6cb791115c22f6efd3e6601f74883c8c659b1a27e005f2a632020-09-21 04:06
-17.000043:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/4aba5056b29de5c859fbee68cd4d97cc0c62f0fe9569e7e919d82eda414b5db82020-09-21 04:46
-13.500043:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/2e41abd57b82f45f79bd2f53ad54351c95bd31572fb4a6a5ae3cf2b7109069a72020-09-21 04:46
-7.000026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/a75034c751b2237dedcd1ce9e83f8e36c159ad7b46e54b2f428c46af42a3b4122020-09-21 06:46
-20.000026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/ef102b75b7d0203ab30d59220884f4e434a13708b338aa58f55d44a5cdf958bf2020-09-21 08:21
-10.000026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/5eaff8faf8d150b90401064fe08e6e2fbf57c9165c4293133c641121d999df3c2020-09-21 08:23
-5.000043:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/d7464120ea42e93516bd69b9480198602408f66002ff642340a5741b2bf8fda42020-09-21 09:11
-16.00004247:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/c68f163c2e0c96e1ee88ab16e6f4027de708a9c3a3c938a0c3630b652b5173ef2020-09-22 00:19
-40.000026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/95500ca4c75f1fccdfa8f7be857e0cb970ab65452a2d5652bedaeb0025b5a18e2020-09-22 03:16
-30.000043:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/f275fba7618cb81e1703abc6db23ef861ef8ddb76ae43bd398bb0a27f241340b2020-09-22 08:32
-8.380026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/d33c583f3657e815293faa3c941ef334e36265b9425ed29480d3662d2fc40408THE FINAL DEPOSITS:
2020-09-23 04:47
-24.000026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/0aa77c3a5bc46f9dcd68f5cc5a8b3bc0022a489e6cb52169ec2f068d6200ac5c2020-09-23 06:29
-20.000026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/4a38b8c78869faac477e7599e3203c35aeb45df952bc47d0913668434f432a832020-09-23 07:36
-16.000026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/2e7d94c62df064ca773b1d5f070bd66fa9f8e6dd43ecc3561f8eb8f3b9a054b12020-09-23 11:25
-3.000043:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/acd56954dbd14b667ee8ee75c4ea15cf2657af95c700fcd458d5bace3f63f8aa2020-09-23 11:25
-11.000026:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/b18dc22fcc787e1bbcc36d9137b4debbdb8e923dcf52dcce9bb10eee1f5763d3FINAL CASHOUT REQUEST was around 67 BCH. Some other cashouts had been processed along the way without freezing the account yet.
I trusted them with tons of money and they waited until I deposited a lot of funds until they scammed me and took all the money. They also pulled an even worse move- they mis-graded a wager, the winning total was about $3,000. But my account balance at the time was about $30,000. I didn’t notice the mis-grade, and they were telling me that since there was a mis-grade, ALL the bets I made after that should be voided because I didn’t let them know personally and was playing with their funds. it was 10% of my account balance and I had no idea. It was a retire in a 2nd set and some books have different rules so I wouldn’t know.
If they don’t change they need to go. Where is the $15k Cloudbet.
-Efxes
