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The inverters shut down if power goes out. Im not using any battery backup. The solar only offsets a fraction of my overall power usage, never makes it onto grid.
Here is the answer! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Thank you! That seems like it would cut down on costs as that is a good amount of batteries. I still wonder the price of it. I have never seen numbers that allowed me to justify it in past. But I would love for someone to show some numbers that make solar or wind with ROI that is not horribly long. I will chime in since I just installed a 7.65 kW system mostly to offset my electric bill from mining, however, it is completely a grid-tie system. I paid $.65/watt including shipping (bought from a wholesaler on eBay), $2800 for 2 inverters, installation was $1.10/watt (1 inverter would have worked if I went with SolarEdge w/optimizers). I had to take a break from mining when my Edison bill hit $900 last November for running about 8 TH. Not entirely sure if this system will help in ROI for running S7s, on the other hand, Edison buys back extra power @ $0.9/kW $0.09/kW..
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September 28, 2015, 10:22:48 PM |
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Here is a picture of my S7 miner.... ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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September 28, 2015, 11:14:56 PM |
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I paid $.65/watt including shipping (bought from a wholesaler on eBay), $2800 for 2 inverters, installation was $1.10/watt (1 inverter would have worked if I went with SolarEdge w/optimizers). I had to take a break from mining when my Edison bill hit $900 last November for running about 8 TH.
I'm guessing you did the ROI math for the solar factoring in other uses at your home, because otherwise I fail to see how spending thousands of dollars in solar equipment is a good "investment". Don't get me wrong, I think it's really cool, but the finances rarely make sense to me.
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September 28, 2015, 11:24:05 PM |
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I paid $.65/watt including shipping (bought from a wholesaler on eBay), $2800 for 2 inverters, installation was $1.10/watt (1 inverter would have worked if I went with SolarEdge w/optimizers). I had to take a break from mining when my Edison bill hit $900 last November for running about 8 TH.
I'm guessing you did the ROI math for the solar factoring in other uses at your home, because otherwise I fail to see how spending thousands of dollars in solar equipment is a good "investment". Don't get me wrong, I think it's really cool, but the finances rarely make sense to me. Thank you for sharing price. Gives me kinda a estimate. Sadly I cannot justify it with my electricity. Just will take too long for me to ROI on it. I can see long term though it would be very nice to have but longer term then I want currently on investments. Over lifetime of house if you used that as scale I'm sure it will pay off sometime, and then you would have a great setup. Just seems to take a while compared to cheap electricity.
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September 28, 2015, 11:38:48 PM |
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I paid $.65/watt including shipping (bought from a wholesaler on eBay), $2800 for 2 inverters, installation was $1.10/watt (1 inverter would have worked if I went with SolarEdge w/optimizers). I had to take a break from mining when my Edison bill hit $900 last November for running about 8 TH.
I'm guessing you did the ROI math for the solar factoring in other uses at your home, because otherwise I fail to see how spending thousands of dollars in solar equipment is a good "investment". Don't get me wrong, I think it's really cool, but the finances rarely make sense to me. I really didn't do the ROI math, I was thinking at least I could sell excess production at $.09/kW if mining didn't work. At current hardware price and ever increasing difficulty, it is kind of impossible to ROI even with free electricity, but everybody still wants to mine, right!
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September 29, 2015, 11:11:19 AM |
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I have been adding panels and inverters to my solar setup for years now. It's a pretty low budget setup. That's why I have many smaller grid tie inverters versus one larger one. Usually I buy a few panels at a time and wire them up. Everything was purchased with the ROI from a couple dozen ztex and other fpga boards that I ran years ago, including current mining gear. The pictures of my power sipping fpga and early asic setups are somewhere in this thread ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 29, 2015, 11:13:37 AM |
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I will chime in since I just installed a 7.65 kW system mostly to offset my electric bill from mining, however, it is completely a grid-tie system. I paid $.65/watt including shipping (bought from a wholesaler on eBay), $2800 for 2 inverters, installation was $1.10/watt (1 inverter would have worked if I went with SolarEdge w/optimizers). I had to take a break from mining when my Edison bill hit $900 last November for running about 8 TH. Not entirely sure if this system will help in ROI for running S7s, on the other hand, Edison buys back extra power @ $0.9/kW $0.09/kW..
so you spent around $15,000 for 7.65kW and no battery packs? IIUC, that means you should get ~7kw*12h = 84kwh/day (~$8), and it will take roughly 2000 days, or 6-7yrs, to pay back the system cost assuming no surprises as i understand, thats not too bad since solar insallations are typically advertised as around 10yrs to break even, at which point you might need to install $4000 of new panels to keep running another 10+yrs
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September 29, 2015, 11:40:44 AM |
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I will chime in since I just installed a 7.65 kW system mostly to offset my electric bill from mining, however, it is completely a grid-tie system. I paid $.65/watt including shipping (bought from a wholesaler on eBay), $2800 for 2 inverters, installation was $1.10/watt (1 inverter would have worked if I went with SolarEdge w/optimizers). I had to take a break from mining when my Edison bill hit $900 last November for running about 8 TH. Not entirely sure if this system will help in ROI for running S7s, on the other hand, Edison buys back extra power @ $0.9/kW $0.09/kW..
so you spent around $15,000 for 7.65kW and no battery packs? IIUC, that means you should get ~7kw*12h = 84kwh/day (~$8), and it will take roughly 2000 days, or 6-7yrs, to pay back the system cost assuming no surprises as i understand, thats not too bad since solar insallations are typically advertised as around 10yrs to break even, at which point you might need to install $4000 of new panels to keep running another 10+yrs I adjusted the math. you need to find your sun hour zone to calculate annual average daily sun hours. I am in Florida and receive just over 4.5 hours on average. ~7kw*( average daily sun hours) = X kwh/day (~$ Z) ~4.5kW (4.5h) = 20.25kWh/day At current difficulty and my averaged mining efficiency of .33W/GH, 1kW will run ~ 3Th of gear and will result in ~$.25 in BTC being generated per hour. So my solar setup, on average and at current BTC price and difficulty, earns 20.25kWh($.25) = ~$5/day. or something like that...
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September 29, 2015, 12:17:47 PM |
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I will chime in since I just installed a 7.65 kW system mostly to offset my electric bill from mining, however, it is completely a grid-tie system. I paid $.65/watt including shipping (bought from a wholesaler on eBay), $2800 for 2 inverters, installation was $1.10/watt (1 inverter would have worked if I went with SolarEdge w/optimizers). I had to take a break from mining when my Edison bill hit $900 last November for running about 8 TH. Not entirely sure if this system will help in ROI for running S7s, on the other hand, Edison buys back extra power @ $0.9/kW $0.09/kW..
so you spent around $15,000 for 7.65kW and no battery packs? IIUC, that means you should get ~7kw*12h = 84kwh/day (~$8), and it will take roughly 2000 days, or 6-7yrs, to pay back the system cost assuming no surprises as i understand, thats not too bad since solar insallations are typically advertised as around 10yrs to break even, at which point you might need to install $4000 of new panels to keep running another 10+yrs That's why I never have been able to justify it. It's a long term investment. If you look at mortgage 6-7 years on a house to ROI is not horrible compared to many loan duration for a house. But as far as bitcoin 10 year ROI point just does not fit well. So kinda 2 different investments. If it's all still working down the road in 10 years he will be very happy getting free electricity from the sun.
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September 29, 2015, 02:51:47 PM |
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I will chime in since I just installed a 7.65 kW system mostly to offset my electric bill from mining, however, it is completely a grid-tie system. I paid $.65/watt including shipping (bought from a wholesaler on eBay), $2800 for 2 inverters, installation was $1.10/watt (1 inverter would have worked if I went with SolarEdge w/optimizers). I had to take a break from mining when my Edison bill hit $900 last November for running about 8 TH. Not entirely sure if this system will help in ROI for running S7s, on the other hand, Edison buys back extra power @ $0.9/kW $0.09/kW..
so you spent around $15,000 for 7.65kW and no battery packs? IIUC, that means you should get ~7kw*12h = 84kwh/day (~$8), and it will take roughly 2000 days, or 6-7yrs, to pay back the system cost assuming no surprises as i understand, thats not too bad since solar insallations are typically advertised as around 10yrs to break even, at which point you might need to install $4000 of new panels to keep running another 10+yrs That was one of the reason for going solar also, the system will generate enough power to cover my daily household usage and some excess. Hoping that it would allow me to run some gears at zero or very low electricity cost, now if Bitmain only shipped my Batch 1 S7 orders. Planning to post some pictures once I get the miners
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Today we had our scheduled 3 month cleaning activity. Since we recently installed a high power pump on our cooling system, we decided to clean our dirty girls with horse-grade shampoo and industrial compressed air (life on the farm is very dirty). WARNING: DO NOT TRY THIS AT YOUR FARM!Before: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1NtToT4.jpg&t=665&c=wGCn9F2nooV5ow) After: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FulfKvQl.jpg&t=665&c=fSoocQTmxNiSdQ) Lots of bubbles: More pics at https://www.facebook.com/StartHash (Like!, Share!, Mine!)Wow, this difference between before and after is huge, good job, they look brand new again! I use a bottle of everclear. Works wonders!
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October 01, 2015, 12:05:08 PM |
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I use a bottle of everclear. Works wonders!
We first have to remove the coarse dust and particles with compressed air: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpiYLmyK.jpg&t=665&c=YqzeH_tf3q_yTA) We then use electronic detergent to suspend the remaining particles in a temporary solution and to blow it away: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Farexons.it%2Fimages%2Fmade%2Fimages%2Fuploads%2Fprodotti%2F4247_394_394_c1.jpg&t=665&c=m5q-bWuh30Dr7A) The dust problem is slightly mitigated by our new filters: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLtBwZTa.jpg&t=665&c=1lTJcAPMbPFVZA) Now we have to clean the filters...
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October 01, 2015, 01:32:48 PM |
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That's a lot of dust in your mining farm, that can be cleaned within a day or less, may i know how many rigs do you have. What is the total of the hashrate, i just checked your website and checked the contracts plans but not so much information. The VIP benefits**, what benefits are you offering to the users, i would be interested in the VIP M.
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October 01, 2015, 02:05:09 PM |
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That's a lot of dust in your mining farm, that can be cleaned within a day or less, may i know how many rigs do you have. What is the total of the hashrate, i just checked your website and checked the contracts plans but not so much information. The VIP benefits**, what benefits are you offering to the users, i would be interested in the VIP M.
Our city is nestled in a river valley of the nostalgic and rustic Moldavian hills. As such, it's very dusty during some times of the year. We have around 40 miners currently. The total and allocated hashrate stats will be visible once we sell a minimum of contracts (otherwise it would show an unflattering small percentage). We are going to add more information to our site as we go, user feedback always points out where this is lacking. The VIP benefits are listed on the contract page, for example https://www.starthash.com/product/vip-m (basically VIP rank gives you access to all transparent non-proprietary information regarding our installations, including our lovely physical selves).
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October 03, 2015, 12:31:28 PM |
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Here is a picture of my S7 miner.... ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) Heh...funny it looks just like my 'fantasy S7 Miner' weird (at 13.5c kwh any S7 is also only in my mind) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:)
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October 03, 2015, 11:09:10 PM |
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A picture of my modest mining facility ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcryptominer.ca%2Fwebsite%2Fimage%2Fir.attachment%2F566_1b2cdef%2Fdatas&t=665&c=n3YVDljvVz6CLQ) It may look like a mess, but everything runs like a charm and is properly identified!
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It may look like a mess, but everything runs like a charm and is properly identified!
Very cool! I think with a little cable management you would see lower operating temperatures on your machines.
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October 04, 2015, 01:22:29 AM |
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A picture of my modest mining facility ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcryptominer.ca%2Fwebsite%2Fimage%2Fir.attachment%2F566_1b2cdef%2Fdatas&t=665&c=n3YVDljvVz6CLQ) It may look like a mess, but everything runs like a charm and is properly identified! As beautiful and captivating as the mona lisa. What are the green colored things in the floor in front of the racks?
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Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function. Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
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October 04, 2015, 01:42:22 AM |
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A picture of my modest mining facility ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It may look like a mess, but everything runs like a charm and is properly identified! As beautiful and captivating as the mona lisa. What are the green colored things in the floor in front of the racks? Looks to me like foam insulation, I would guess a good thermal insulator as well as static insulator from the concrete floor. Am I right?
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October 04, 2015, 02:22:14 AM |
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Here is my setup again ....Just because soon no more home mining for me....so sad....the withdrawal will be hard ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) the link as usual is below lostgonzo.imgur.com My complete KNC Shrine above of 2 Titan Scrypt Miners (LTC) and a KNC 550gh Jupiter BTC miner (OFF) used as a gravity assist device for the work bench ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and the obligatory self promotion picture below ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjHkdGnd.jpg&t=665&c=iy8t-JBuDAMdOw) Well Winter is coming so the oppurtunity for DENIAL and running them a couple more months in 2016 as 'space heaters' at a small loss will delay the inevitable some I guess (so sad so addicted) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:)
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