[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[q327K091]

koko doubled his investment just now kind of waited all day long, someone unrolled 250K from mining ops again at 200 satoshi, swallowed it... immediate

Dumpers will dump and hate on it. Am here for the long run and dont intend to dump my stash of more than that. So can only wait and see what the future holds.

And an update regarding guide got a fair bit of it updated and will be hopefully rapping up next weekend and eventually getting the new and improved guide up for everyone and the new starters to get started out

legendary.. do you know how hard is to mine this coin and how expensive it is.. so we have BTC at super low , for one BTC one can purchase a semi ok drive of not even high capacity I don't care who is selling but they aint making much profit and off of me they make pennies on the dollar right now

preparing to pick up 213000.00000000 at 202 satoshi , he /she even added 50K to the sell order, 199 sat.. waiting a bit but not too long

damn... can't do exceed a limit.. would have chunked up to 1 million BURST.. got close though.. not selling even 1 , see you soon

[crazyearner]

koko doubled his investment just now kind of waited all day long, someone unrolled 250K from mining ops again at 200 satoshi, swallowed it... immediate

Dumpers will dump and hate on it. Am here for the long run and dont intend to dump my stash of more than that. So can only wait and see what the future holds.

And an update regarding guide got a fair bit of it updated and will be hopefully rapping up next weekend and eventually getting the new and improved guide up for everyone and the new starters to get started out

legendary.. do you know how hard is to mine this coin and how expensive it is.. so we have BTC at super low , for one BTC one can purchase a semi ok drive of not even high capacity I don't care who is selling but they aint making much profit and off of me they make pennies on the dollar right now

preparing to pick up 213000.00000000 at 202 satoshi , he /she even added 50K to the sell order

It is tough to get started but once you got the simple steps in order like wallet files plotting and so forth it gets simple on the way the ncan go to exchange and buy. Its way under prriced in my option but holding some reserves right now and keeping rest in offline wallet stored on back up hard drive.

Little insight to new guide.



Should soon have the rest done on it have  the first 2 sections done and dusted now working though plotting and mining and a few other bits. Once this is all done then going to go over it for spelling at the min its just rough

[Yanakitu Tenatako]

OMG look @diff

[yellowduck2]

koko doubled his investment just now kind of waited all day long, someone unrolled 250K from mining ops again at 200 satoshi, swallowed it... immediate

Dumpers will dump and hate on it. Am here for the long run and dont intend to dump my stash of more than that. So can only wait and see what the future holds.

And an update regarding guide got a fair bit of it updated and will be hopefully rapping up next weekend and eventually getting the new and improved guide up for everyone and the new starters to get started out

legendary.. do you know how hard is to mine this coin and how expensive it is.. so we have BTC at super low , for one BTC one can purchase a semi ok drive of not even high capacity I don't care who is selling but they aint making much profit and off of me they make pennies on the dollar right now

preparing to pick up 213000.00000000 at 202 satoshi , he /she even added 50K to the sell order

 way under prriced in my option but holding some reserves right now and keeping rest in offline wallet stored on back up hard drive.

There is no need for backup wallet. U don't even need to back up anything if u remember your pass phase. That's the magic of burst. U can access your burst anywhere , anytime , any platform as long as u remember your pass phase. There is no .wallet file to backup. U don't have to import anything. Type in your pass phase and u are good to go. This is not bitcoin. This is burst !

[crazyearner]

koko doubled his investment just now kind of waited all day long, someone unrolled 250K from mining ops again at 200 satoshi, swallowed it... immediate

Dumpers will dump and hate on it. Am here for the long run and dont intend to dump my stash of more than that. So can only wait and see what the future holds.

And an update regarding guide got a fair bit of it updated and will be hopefully rapping up next weekend and eventually getting the new and improved guide up for everyone and the new starters to get started out

legendary.. do you know how hard is to mine this coin and how expensive it is.. so we have BTC at super low , for one BTC one can purchase a semi ok drive of not even high capacity I don't care who is selling but they aint making much profit and off of me they make pennies on the dollar right now

preparing to pick up 213000.00000000 at 202 satoshi , he /she even added 50K to the sell order

 way under prriced in my option but holding some reserves right now and keeping rest in offline wallet stored on back up hard drive.

There is no need for backup wallet. U don't even need to back up anything if u remember your pass phase. That's the magic of burst. U can access your burst anywhere , anytime , any platform as long as u remember your pass phase. There is no .wallet file to backup.

I know that was keeping passphrase secure etc. But am looking into paper wallet and looking on how to create one and store coins on paper as offline hard paper wallet. Once got guide down think will look into creating paper wallet for bust if I get the time to

[yellowduck2]

koko doubled his investment just now kind of waited all day long, someone unrolled 250K from mining ops again at 200 satoshi, swallowed it... immediate

Dumpers will dump and hate on it. Am here for the long run and dont intend to dump my stash of more than that. So can only wait and see what the future holds.

And an update regarding guide got a fair bit of it updated and will be hopefully rapping up next weekend and eventually getting the new and improved guide up for everyone and the new starters to get started out

legendary.. do you know how hard is to mine this coin and how expensive it is.. so we have BTC at super low , for one BTC one can purchase a semi ok drive of not even high capacity I don't care who is selling but they aint making much profit and off of me they make pennies on the dollar right now

preparing to pick up 213000.00000000 at 202 satoshi , he /she even added 50K to the sell order

 way under prriced in my option but holding some reserves right now and keeping rest in offline wallet stored on back up hard drive.

There is no need for backup wallet. U don't even need to back up anything if u remember your pass phase. That's the magic of burst. U can access your burst anywhere , anytime , any platform as long as u remember your pass phase. There is no .wallet file to backup.

I know that was keeping passphrase secure etc. But am looking into paper wallet and looking on how to create one and store coins on paper as offline hard paper wallet. Once got guide down think will look into creating paper wallet for bust if I get the time to

How about creating a secure pass phase u can remember easily ? That's the safest way because people need to hack your brain to gain access. They cant even find any physical print out of your pass.

[crazyearner]

koko doubled his investment just now kind of waited all day long, someone unrolled 250K from mining ops again at 200 satoshi, swallowed it... immediate

Dumpers will dump and hate on it. Am here for the long run and dont intend to dump my stash of more than that. So can only wait and see what the future holds.

And an update regarding guide got a fair bit of it updated and will be hopefully rapping up next weekend and eventually getting the new and improved guide up for everyone and the new starters to get started out

legendary.. do you know how hard is to mine this coin and how expensive it is.. so we have BTC at super low , for one BTC one can purchase a semi ok drive of not even high capacity I don't care who is selling but they aint making much profit and off of me they make pennies on the dollar right now

preparing to pick up 213000.00000000 at 202 satoshi , he /she even added 50K to the sell order

 way under prriced in my option but holding some reserves right now and keeping rest in offline wallet stored on back up hard drive.

There is no need for backup wallet. U don't even need to back up anything if u remember your pass phase. That's the magic of burst. U can access your burst anywhere , anytime , any platform as long as u remember your pass phase. There is no .wallet file to backup.

I know that was keeping passphrase secure etc. But am looking into paper wallet and looking on how to create one and store coins on paper as offline hard paper wallet. Once got guide down think will look into creating paper wallet for bust if I get the time to

How about creating a secure pass phase u can remember easily ? That's the safest way because people need to hack your brain to gain access. They cant even find any physical print out of your pass.

Well my password is 40 digits long mixture of letters, numbers special digits and does not make any words up. I know it is secure enough but I would prefer cold storage just like my bitcoin on paper wallets and stored in a secure location.

[crazyearner]

New section added into guide.

Mining Pools list with most current and up to date pools to keep miners happy Also going to be adding a few other sections into it too that will be a little surprise to people using the guide

[HunterS]

I am now a Burstcoin Millionair

[crazyearner]

I am now a Burstcoin Millionair

So you own over 1 million Burst? Nice to see you holding so much. Dont be hating any time soon and dumping

[Youghoor]

I am now a Burstcoin Millionair

That is a lots of Burst.

[Irontiga]

I am now a Burstcoin Millionair

That is a lots of Burst.

I will hit that in time i hope

[crazyearner]

Such diff going to the bloody moon.

Network Difficulty
16020.2

Is it worth me grabbing some more TB drives for this given the amount of diff its just gone to

[Irontiga]

Such diff going to the bloody moon.

Network Difficulty
16020.2

Is it worth me grabbing some more TB drives for this given the amount of diff its just gone to

its just gone to

too high?

[crazyearner]

Such diff going to the bloody moon.

Network Difficulty
16020.2

Is it worth me grabbing some more TB drives for this given the amount of diff its just gone to

its just gone to

too high?

is only gonna get higher lol might as well buy some contracts than buying more space but 50/50 on contract vs own equipment lol

[yellowduck2]

Such diff going to the bloody moon.

Network Difficulty
16020.2

Is it worth me grabbing some more TB drives for this given the amount of diff its just gone to

Buying burst is a smarter choice now. U can sell all the burst u buy now when it hit 1000 sat and use that money to buy HDD to mine. Mining when price are high is a smarter choice. Buying instead of mining when price are low is a smarter choice. U can never mine the same amount of burst using the same amount of money buying HDD now because of low burst and BTC price. "Maybe" u will get equal amount in 1 year but price are so low now buying is way better to earn more BTC after u sell it at higher price and use it to buy HDD later

[bensam123]

How do you mine to a wallet on a different computer? I tried running a wallet on a different computer across the network, changed this:
nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0
nxt.allowedBotHosts=0.0.0.0
(could access the wallet from a different computer)

And changed this:
   "UpdaterAddr" : "192.168.0.98",
   "Server" : "192.168.0.98

It seems as though the miner could connect, but wouldn't start mining.

I'd really like to know this as I would like to centralize my wallets, I know questions get lost really easily in this thread.

conf/nxt-default.properties

change lines
100 :

Code:

nxt.allowedBotHosts=127.0.0.1; localhost; [0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]; 

to

Code:

nxt.allowedBotHosts=*

and 107:

Code:

nxt.apiServerHost=127.0.0.1

to

Code:

nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0.0

That should be all

Thanks, was using blank or 0.0.0.0, when you need *

[bensam123]

Such diff going to the bloody moon.

Network Difficulty
16020.2

Is it worth me grabbing some more TB drives for this given the amount of diff its just gone to

Buying burst is a smarter choice now. U can sell all the burst u buy now when it hit 1000 sat and use that money to buy HDD to mine. Mining when price are high is a smarter choice. Buying instead of mining when price are low is a smarter choice. U can never mine the same amount of burst using the same amount of money buying HDD now because of low burst and BTC price. "Maybe" u will get equal amount in 1 year but price are so low now buying is way better to earn more BTC after u sell it at higher price and use it to buy HDD later

You look at ROI. At the current rate, 5TB will earn 0.048BTC per month. In other words, you'll pay off the hard drive in 12~ months, or over a year at the current rate. Where do you think burst will be in a year? Where has cryptocoins in general went in a year?

I definitely think there are some people who are renting out equipment as well, although I'm not certain how or where you'd do this right now.

Really stupid idea to buy mining equipment right now and unfortunately the huge pump that happened pretty much ruined any sort of mining potential of the coin as it has too much attention now and the herp/derp coins=profitalways420!!! tards are hoping on the mining train.

[hvidgaard]

There is definitely some optimizations that could benefit Blagos miner. My experience is that I need to use a lower cache size than what ought to be optimal. Optimally, the miner should read all the data it needs from a file in one go, and do it's thing. That would limit the IO seeks to 2 per plotfile. But if I set the cache size such that it should be able to read everything the CPU will visually idle while it's trying to find the best offset. However if I lower it to 131072, it seems to keep the CPU at 100% utilization.

That said, I still have great success with optimizing. My 16TB took ~110s unoptimized, and are now running in ~80s, great improvement.

So after playing around and comparing Optimized Vs Non-optimized plots with the J6 optimizer, it appears as though non-optimized plots are faster. They however consume more memory when being mined (optimized plots have almost no memory usage). The speed difference is negligible, optimized is 10~ seconds slower, seemingly regardless of the number of drives I have attached.

I'm not exactly certain why this is, especially when everyone is saying they're faster. I even used a faster processor and Blagos miner was not operating at 100% usage. To that end, it appears that Blagos can only split threads down so much and it was effectively limited by one logical processor... at which point it would be faster if I had a higher frequency processor (single threaded performance becomes a bottleneck).

These are 4.54TB plots on 5TB 5,900RPM drives with 8192 stagger. They're hooked up via SATA 3 and I'm running W8.1 x64. The fastest I could hash one 5TB drive was 47s, it was non-optimized. A optimized one took 51s.

I really don't know why you'd want to optimize, unless you have extremely slow drives or almost no memory. Even on my pokey 5,900RPM drives, the bottleneck is definitely the processor (which makes a GPU assisted miner all the more desirable). The amount of time it takes to optimize and risk breaking your plots doesn't seem worth it.

Although I haven't played around with it, I would theorize a higher stagger size would actually make mining faster (if you have 16, 32, or 64GB of memory). These results may be because of how large my plots are comparatively to other people who are using much smaller drives.

I've been testing this over the last week or so and this has been tested across multiple systems. A A4-4000, G3220, and a AMD x4 640 (which is what I'm currently using). I tested in single drive configurations and multiple drive configurations (up to five drives). The results have been retested too, at no point in time were the drives actually the bottleneck in any of my tests. Maybe I just don't have a fast enough processor and after a certain threshold a non-optimized drive becomes worse then a optimized one.

In order to surpass a certain threshold it seems as though you need an extremely fast single threaded processor for best case mining. A i7, overclocked is better. Hyperthreading will help when you have more then four drives, although I also suspect a eight core FX would perform well when you have more then eight drives as AMD modules work quite well in multithreaded workloads.

[bensam123]

Thanks, how do you know if everything is functioning properly? I think I got everything working, but I'm not certain whether or not it's really 'working' so to speak. There is little to no documentation for the miner so I don't have any idea what any of the dialogue or options actually mean.

Like what is: dl sdl cdl ss rs?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg9117608#msg9117608
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg9696842#msg9696842
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg9552852#msg9552852
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg9304835#msg9304835

How often does the mining 'phase' happen?

Every new block (~4 min)

How do you know if you found a block mining solo?

You got burst in the wallet

How do you know how long it took to process the last deadline and what the deadline is (I'm using blagos)?

see stat-log.csv  (ID, #block, baseTarget, best_Deadline)

What is the initial 'mine' that happens when you start the miner up, where the percentage in the bottom left counts up?

percentage of reading of plots

What is optimizing people talk about and how do you do it? What does it mean?

merge the plots, defrag HDDs
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xj4mzvkjlyg0c2l/merge.zip?dl=0

Hey Blago, what processor are you using for the above screenshot, are all the drives optimized, and how much memory do you have? Also what interfaces are being used for these drives and what drives are these? Are these all 7200RPMs?

There is definitely some optimizations that could benefit Blagos miner. My experience is that I need to use a lower cache size than what ought to be optimal. Optimally, the miner should read all the data it needs from a file in one go, and do it's thing. That would limit the IO seeks to 2 per plotfile. But if I set the cache size such that it should be able to read everything the CPU will visually idle while it's trying to find the best offset. However if I lower it to 131072, it seems to keep the CPU at 100% utilization.

That said, I still have great success with optimizing. My 16TB took ~110s unoptimized, and are now running in ~80s, great improvement.

Hmmm, what sort of drives are you using? I never saw an improvement from optimizing my drives, I'm using the J6 optimizer as well (not Blagos). The drives I'm using should be very fast sequentially, but suck as far as seeks go (slower spindle = longer seeks, higher density = faster sequential).

I actually seem to be running into a absolute lowest mine time of ~50s for one of my drives. Although I'll be testing more later tonight on my desktop CPU (4690k). I OC'd my x4 640 an additional 25% and it didn't move that time at all, which I'm starting to think Blagos is part of the bottleneck (it can only process so fast regardless of the rest of the system).

When looking at the drives in resource monitor they aren't transferring that much data. The GPU plotter wrote to them about 3x faster doing a 8192 stagger buffer, which I assume is similar in nature to when they're getting mine

Why 131072 too? Why not 100000?


Some more testing, it looks like my drives are not the limitation. Looking at random transfers in HD Tune using random access, they're about 4x higher then the transfer speed I'm getting with Blagos at the same block size >64K. That is a worst case scenario as well, which shouldn't be representative of a optimized disk (which is supposedly mainly sequential).