Scientific proof that God exists?

[BADecker]

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:

One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

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[Astargath]

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:

One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html


You cant find any more solid proof against Biblical God than that, until you prove God exists with phisical evidences.

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atheism has become strong these days.

I'm not so sure about this. Churches around here on a Sunday are full up. I know this because they seem to think parking laws don't apply to them, so they park their cars wherever they choose, blocking everyone in.

Also most people I've spoke to believe in a god. Only a small handful believe in religion though, which a different thing altogether. But as I said, the churches are full so it must be still popular.

[Ibistru]

Ok people can please everyone stop feeding the sky fairies troll so that this thread goes happily into oblivion?

[the joint]

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:

One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

A couple questions:

1) In your view, what is the difference, if any, between evidence and proof?

2) In your view, does "proof" always equate to 100% certainty?  Why or why not?

[GannickusX]

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:

One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

A couple questions:

1) In your view, what is the difference, if any, between evidence and proof?

2) In your view, does "proof" always equate to 100% certainty?  Why or why not?

In his view proof is only when he says something but when someone else provides proof is not proof anymore

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Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:

One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

A couple questions:

1) In your view, what is the difference, if any, between evidence and proof?

2) In your view, does "proof" always equate to 100% certainty?  Why or why not?

Depends. He can change the definitions around to suit the situation. That way he gives the illusion his arguments have substance.

[the joint]

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:

One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

A couple questions:

1) In your view, what is the difference, if any, between evidence and proof?

2) In your view, does "proof" always equate to 100% certainty?  Why or why not?

Depends. He can change the definitions around to suit the situation. That way he gives the illusion his arguments have substance.

I know, he butchers and tortures the English language repeatedly.  This is basically me experimenting with various approaches to see if he responds differently to any of them.

There's a part of me that likes to believe that 'nobody' who is capable of living on their own is that stupid, and that he knows when he signs off his account that he's dead wrong on so many things, but simply can't admit it because he's already invested so much time and energy trying to cast a certain impression (i.e. that he's super-duper smart and nobody except him understands the awesomeness of his logic...you know, because faith and stuff).

[(oYo)]

Perhaps there is a god after all. 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993290.msg10826753#msg10826753

[BADecker]

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:

One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

A couple questions:

1) In your view, what is the difference, if any, between evidence and proof?

2) In your view, does "proof" always equate to 100% certainty?  Why or why not?

Depends. He can change the definitions around to suit the situation. That way he gives the illusion his arguments have substance.

I know, he butchers and tortures the English language repeatedly.  This is basically me experimenting with various approaches to see if he responds differently to any of them.

There's a part of me that likes to believe that 'nobody' who is capable of living on their own is that stupid, and that he knows when he signs off his account that he's dead wrong on so many things, but simply can't admit it because he's already invested so much time and energy trying to cast a certain impression (i.e. that he's super-duper smart and nobody except him understands the awesomeness of his logic...you know, because faith and stuff).

It's called getting the info across.

When I make mistakes, I am only acting like everyone else. At least I am willing to admit that we make mistakes.

One area that I am not making very many, if any, mistakes in is, the evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 that prove that God exists. The scientist in the joint should be able to recognize this.

[Decksperiment]

Dont take it on faith.. Listen to the treeeeeeeeeeeeee's!!!!

Help's you breath more easily..

Check mate theists. He is not even trying to disprove the sequoia age because he cant

Well, checkmate to the bible, not theists.

Best thing said in this thread since it started..

[BADecker]

Well, at least we had a breather.

[(oYo)]

Speak of the devil... 

[BADecker]

You are giving him too much credit. He ain't that powerful.

[BADecker]

Now notice how he starts talking about someone named Sam out of the blue. He doesn't capitalize the name Sam. And he doesn't explain who Sam is.

Please be patient with him. Have mercy on him. Even, maybe, if you're a religions sort, pray for him.

[XinXan]

Now notice how he starts talking about someone named Sam out of the blue. He doesn't capitalize the name Sam. And he doesn't explain who Sam is.

Please be patient with him. Have mercy on him. Even, maybe, if you're a religions sort, pray for him.

In this thread people may not agree that god exists or not but we all agree that you have no idea what you are talking about 99% of the times

[BADecker]

Now notice how he starts talking about someone named Sam out of the blue. He doesn't capitalize the name Sam. And he doesn't explain who Sam is.

Please be patient with him. Have mercy on him. Even, maybe, if you're a religions sort, pray for him.

In this thread people may not agree that god exists or not but we all agree that you have no idea what you are talking about 99% of the times

Since you are unwilling to accept the proven fact found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395, that God DOES indeed exist, how are you going to understand what I am talking about? Since I accept the proven fact that God exists, I certainly know what I am talking about. But it is starting to become evident that you won't know even what you are talking about until you accept the evidence at the link which proves God exists, if then.

[XinXan]

Now notice how he starts talking about someone named Sam out of the blue. He doesn't capitalize the name Sam. And he doesn't explain who Sam is.

Please be patient with him. Have mercy on him. Even, maybe, if you're a religions sort, pray for him.

In this thread people may not agree that god exists or not but we all agree that you have no idea what you are talking about 99% of the times

Since you are unwilling to accept the proven fact found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395, that God DOES indeed exist, how are you going to understand what I am talking about? Since I accept the proven fact that God exists, I certainly know what I am talking about. But it is starting to become evident that you won't know even what you are talking about until you accept the evidence at the link which proves God exists, if then.

So far seems no one accepts your proofs, not even religious people, doesnt that make you think?

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Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Doesn't talk about God at all. Even if the times are correct here (we don't know that they are because laws of physics of the distant past may have been different), this only suggests that God did it differently than the religions say.

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

This author, himself, agrees that God exists when he says at the bottom of http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/outro.html:

One day, perhaps, we’ll all be free of conditioned thinking and learn to rely on observable and testable evidence when examining religious claims. One day, perhaps, we can all peacefully coexist. Whatever force might be watching us now probably realizes that the majority of us are currently incapable of achieving these goals. If this being is observing our planet during a search for an enlightened race that’s ready for the deepest secrets of the universe, it should probably try us again later.

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

While the Big Bang has not been proven to absolutely have not happened, the current descriptions and times that modern science applies to Big Bang happenings, have been shown to be wrong by electric cosmos information. See http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

Science and astronomy have made tremendous strides in knowledge about the universe over the last hundred years. Most of the knowledge is a hodge podge of pasting new findings into old. This process has turned the whole understanding of astronomy and cosmology into a complete mess, even though astronomers are ashamed to admit it... ashamed that they could have been so bold as to believe all those silly cosmology assertions of former astronomers and cosmologists. The evidence for this is found at http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm and the pages following. Follow the thinking in Internet searches for "electric cosmos," and you will see how it is gradually replacing current popular understandings about the universe, simply because it makes way more sense.

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

You can keep on setting yourself against God for awhile, by believing that He doesn't exist. Yet, some of the most important and basic evidences that prove God exists are found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Proofs against god:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/index2.html

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/BigBang.htm

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can keep believing in your thing but there are the solid proofs against god

There are no proofs against God in the common methods for finding evidence that proves something. The evidences at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 are scientific evidences that scientists use everyday to prove aspects of nature and the universe around us. These evidences also prove the existence of God.

The religion of atheism has become strong these days. And I don't understand why. Why are people who are out to find the truth (or so they say) so adamantly against one of the basic truths of the universe, that God exists? Accepting the fact of the existence God doesn't hurt them at all. They can still go on being good (or bad, in some cases) scientists.

Personally, I think it is a political ploy, pushed by the super rich, to mix up the common people, so that they can control the world more easily.

A couple questions:

1) In your view, what is the difference, if any, between evidence and proof?

2) In your view, does "proof" always equate to 100% certainty?  Why or why not?

Depends. He can change the definitions around to suit the situation. That way he gives the illusion his arguments have substance.

I know, he butchers and tortures the English language repeatedly.  This is basically me experimenting with various approaches to see if he responds differently to any of them.

There's a part of me that likes to believe that 'nobody' who is capable of living on their own is that stupid, and that he knows when he signs off his account that he's dead wrong on so many things, but simply can't admit it because he's already invested so much time and energy trying to cast a certain impression (i.e. that he's super-duper smart and nobody except him understands the awesomeness of his logic...you know, because faith and stuff).

It's called getting the info across.

I call it deliberately misleading people.
Telling people you have proof when you don't is not "getting the info across", it's just lying.

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Dont take it on faith.. Listen to the treeeeeeeeeeeeee's!!!!

Help's you breath more easily..

Check mate theists. He is not even trying to disprove the sequoia age because he cant

Well, checkmate to the bible, not theists.

Best thing said in this thread since it started..

Play it again sam..

Play it again sam.. humphrey bogart.. stop hijackin daniel's thread wi yer shit, and go to your true home, the fuckin nursery..

Edit: This is meant for Vod/Oyo, and the pope BADicker..