Scientific proof that God exists?

[XinXan]

I don't think he's trolling. It seems to me he fancied himself as some sort of important Bitcointalk religious guru, anyone can goto for advice. Obviously this plan exploded in his face.
I think he's dug himself into such a deep hole, that confused and frightened, he's just saying anything that pops into his head now.

 

Im suprised the mods allow him to keep posting that link, spamming it over and over and when you show him evidence that the bible is a non sense he avoids talking about it and keeps posting his link

I'm surprised that the mods let you be so off-topic all the time.

Re-posting the link saves space. I could simply post all the information at the link every time. I am trying to be brief, yet stay on-topic.

I know you dont want to talk about the image i posted since you cant refute anything there because it is in the bible and you are trying to avoid it but i will remind you of it each time you post something

[BADecker]

All the goofy things that the joint, Buffer Overflow, Joshuar and others say about me, is the only thing they can do, because there is enough scientific evidence expressed at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 that proves God exists that they can't do anything else. Even the parts of it that are not scientific evidence, prove that God exists beyond a shadow of a doubt. Any supposed evidence to the contrary, is simply incidental evidence, that is, evidence that might prove something scientific, but doesn't contradict the proof that God exists as expressed by the evidence at the link.

The thing that really has me stumped is, why do these people want to disprove God? Or if they aren't trying to do that, why would they want to hide the truth of God's existence?

I guess, different people, different goals and ideals. I am going the next step beyond proving God, now that I have done so. I am investigating how to contact Him. But that's for another topic.

[BADecker]

I don't think he's trolling. It seems to me he fancied himself as some sort of important Bitcointalk religious guru, anyone can goto for advice. Obviously this plan exploded in his face.
I think he's dug himself into such a deep hole, that confused and frightened, he's just saying anything that pops into his head now.

 

Im suprised the mods allow him to keep posting that link, spamming it over and over and when you show him evidence that the bible is a non sense he avoids talking about it and keeps posting his link

I'm surprised that the mods let you be so off-topic all the time.

Re-posting the link saves space. I could simply post all the information at the link every time. I am trying to be brief, yet stay on-topic.

I know you dont want to talk about the image i posted since you cant refute anything there because it is in the bible and you are trying to avoid it but i will remind you of it each time you post something

Personally, I really don't mind that you are off-topic.

 

[BADecker]

I was curious if you realized that you implicated Genesis as "all mistake."

I wouldn't mind if you explained it to me. However, I am rather impatient. Please do it in as few words as possible.

Thanks.

Sure.

First you say:

...Quran is perfection of mistakes. In other words, it is entire mistake.

Then I point out:

...the Quran and the Bible are virtually identical up until the house of Abraham.

Therefore:

-  If the Quran is "all mistake," and...
-  If the Quran and Bible are initially identical...
-  Then the Bible is initially "all mistake"  (because it is initially identical to the Quran which you dscribed as "all mistake")

Thanks, again.

Actually, the reverse is true. Even if the beginning of Quran were exactly the same as the beginning of Genesis, the fact that the Quran is against the idea of Jesus salvation for all people, makes the Quran complete imperfection. Beyond this, it makes the Quran a book of blasphemy and hypocrisy. Why? In Genesis, after the first sin in the Garden, God who walked in the Garden in His form as Jesus with the first two people, promised the Messiah.

The whole Bible, including Genesis, is there for the salvation of people through Jesus salvation. Jesus is the Messiah that the Jews say is prophesied about by Moses and other prophets, even though many Jews don't accept Him as such.

Since the Quran promises Heaven (salvation) by personal works righteousness, if it has a mixture of Messiah salvation along with works righteousness salvation, it is mixed-up and self-contradictory.

You should be telling this to yourself, not to me.

If the reverse is true, then why did you say the opposite earlier?

Look, you contradicted yourself earlier and now you're disagreeing with what you had said.  Don't tell me "actually, the reverse is true" when the reverse is completely false based upon your earlier words.

All you're doing is essentially claiming you are right no matter what position you take or what you say.  It's not my fault you can't keep your thoughts organized.

What does anything you say have to do with anything? The point is, if you are on-topic with all this, you are barely so. Get a life, and get on-topic like I am with my https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 information, instead of all this rambling. Now, of course, I am only suggesting. Far be it from me to even attempt to order you.

[psybits]

Wow what a mega off-topic thread!

I always keep an open mind and have an interest in evidence both for or against. I am not a committed atheist or a hard line creationist.

I do think most of the bible should be seen as a story, and I think verses from the bible are irrelevant when it comes to a genuine investigation of if there is a higher power or not. The bible is just a book that has gone through many, many revisions over the years at the whims of kings and other leaders throughout history. It has little to do with if there is genuine evidence of a higher spiritual force behind the universe or not.

[Buffer Overflow]

The thing that really has me stumped is, why do these people want to disprove God? Or if they aren't trying to do that, why would they want to hide the truth of God's existence?

Science cannot prove or disprove god. I wrote this way back on page #3 all those months ago. Shame you ignored it. Would of saved you a lot of typing. You'll learn.

I think your confused between the difference of believing in a god and believing in a religion.

[psybits]

The thing that really has me stumped is, why do these people want to disprove God? Or if they aren't trying to do that, why would they want to hide the truth of God's existence?

Science cannot prove or disprove god. I wrote this way back on page #3 all those months ago. Shame you ignored it. Would of saved you a lot of typing. You'll learn.

I think your confused between the difference of believing in a god and believing in a religion.

Yes sometimes it does seem like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole when it comes to "scientifically" proving or disproving god.

[XinXan]

I don't think he's trolling. It seems to me he fancied himself as some sort of important Bitcointalk religious guru, anyone can goto for advice. Obviously this plan exploded in his face.
I think he's dug himself into such a deep hole, that confused and frightened, he's just saying anything that pops into his head now.

 

Im suprised the mods allow him to keep posting that link, spamming it over and over and when you show him evidence that the bible is a non sense he avoids talking about it and keeps posting his link

I'm surprised that the mods let you be so off-topic all the time.

Re-posting the link saves space. I could simply post all the information at the link every time. I am trying to be brief, yet stay on-topic.

I know you dont want to talk about the image i posted since you cant refute anything there because it is in the bible and you are trying to avoid it but i will remind you of it each time you post something

Personally, I really don't mind that you are off-topic.

 

You keep trying to ignore the proofs that the bible is just full of lies and totally inaccurate but THE TRUTH IS HERE FOR EVERYONE ELSE :

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com

[BADecker]

The thing that really has me stumped is, why do these people want to disprove God? Or if they aren't trying to do that, why would they want to hide the truth of God's existence?

Science cannot prove or disprove god. I wrote this way back on page #3 all those months ago. Shame you ignored it. Would of saved you a lot of typing. You'll learn.

I think your confused between the difference of believing in a god and believing in a religion.

Words are easy, especially when you decide to write a simple line or two. If you would read my stuff at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 slowly, even you might come to understand that God's existence has been proven there.

[BADecker]

The thing that really has me stumped is, why do these people want to disprove God? Or if they aren't trying to do that, why would they want to hide the truth of God's existence?

Science cannot prove or disprove god. I wrote this way back on page #3 all those months ago. Shame you ignored it. Would of saved you a lot of typing. You'll learn.

I think your confused between the difference of believing in a god and believing in a religion.

Yes sometimes it does seem like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole when it comes to "scientifically" proving god.

Did you read the stuff at my https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 link? stuff that proves the existence of God?

[BADecker]

I don't think he's trolling. It seems to me he fancied himself as some sort of important Bitcointalk religious guru, anyone can goto for advice. Obviously this plan exploded in his face.
I think he's dug himself into such a deep hole, that confused and frightened, he's just saying anything that pops into his head now.

 

Im suprised the mods allow him to keep posting that link, spamming it over and over and when you show him evidence that the bible is a non sense he avoids talking about it and keeps posting his link

I'm surprised that the mods let you be so off-topic all the time.

Re-posting the link saves space. I could simply post all the information at the link every time. I am trying to be brief, yet stay on-topic.

I know you dont want to talk about the image i posted since you cant refute anything there because it is in the bible and you are trying to avoid it but i will remind you of it each time you post something

Personally, I really don't mind that you are off-topic.

 

You keep trying to ignore the proofs that the bible is just full of lies and totally inaccurate but THE TRUTH IS HERE FOR EVERYONE ELSE :

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com

Oh, you're just upset that I have proven that God exists, and you can't prove He doesn't.

 

[Buffer Overflow]

Words are easy, especially when you decide to write a simple line or two.

I'm typing on a phone. Compared to a proper keyboard it's slow and hardwork.

[BADecker]

Words are easy, especially when you decide to write a simple line or two.

I'm typing on a phone. Compared to a proper keyboard it's slow and hardwork.

Great work, man! I'm not the OP, but I would let you be off-topic just for that.

[XinXan]

I don't think he's trolling. It seems to me he fancied himself as some sort of important Bitcointalk religious guru, anyone can goto for advice. Obviously this plan exploded in his face.
I think he's dug himself into such a deep hole, that confused and frightened, he's just saying anything that pops into his head now.

 

Im suprised the mods allow him to keep posting that link, spamming it over and over and when you show him evidence that the bible is a non sense he avoids talking about it and keeps posting his link

I'm surprised that the mods let you be so off-topic all the time.

Re-posting the link saves space. I could simply post all the information at the link every time. I am trying to be brief, yet stay on-topic.

I know you dont want to talk about the image i posted since you cant refute anything there because it is in the bible and you are trying to avoid it but i will remind you of it each time you post something

Personally, I really don't mind that you are off-topic.

 

You keep trying to ignore the proofs that the bible is just full of lies and totally inaccurate but THE TRUTH IS HERE FOR EVERYONE ELSE :

http://www.biblicalnonsense.com

Oh, you're just upset that I have proven that God exists, and you can't prove He doesn't.

 

You cant prove the flying spaguetti monster doesnt exist, can you? But i can prove the bible is stupid


http://www.biblicalnonsense.com


Right there

[bl4kjaguar]

Non-Biblical teachings that seem to be about God may be correct in some areas, but because they are false in other areas, they are not really about God.

God is not jealous or wrathful; God is love.
Instead of trying to "reconcile" these two cointradictions through "the person of Jesus Christ", why not accept that God is love and go from there?

There is already a cointradictory statement in the Bible that you do not want to address with me.

[XinXan]

Non-Biblical teachings that seem to be about God may be correct in some areas, but because they are false in other areas, they are not really about God.

God is not jealous or wrathful; God is love.
Instead of trying to "reconcile" these two cointradictions through "the person of Jesus Christ", why not accept that God is love and go from there?

There is already a cointradictory statement in the Bible that you do not want to address with me.

Why would i accept anything if there is no proof of it? How does god show us his love exactly? Through war, diseases, hunger?

[BADecker]

Non-Biblical teachings that seem to be about God may be correct in some areas, but because they are false in other areas, they are not really about God.

God is not jealous or wrathful; God is love.
Instead of trying to "reconcile" these two cointradictions through "the person of Jesus Christ", why not accept that God is love and go from there?

Because they are different points, the thing that I was talking about that you quoted, and the thing that you are talking about. Sometimes we need to talk about different things. Why not continue with my point?

Better still, why not remain on-topic and start a new thread if this is what you have in mind.

There is already a cointradictory statement in the Bible that you do not want to address with me.

Jesus said:

I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Kindly treat me as a little child. Explain the on-topic contradictory statement. If it is not on-topic, you could always start a new thread.

[BADecker]

Non-Biblical teachings that seem to be about God may be correct in some areas, but because they are false in other areas, they are not really about God.

God is not jealous or wrathful; God is love.
Instead of trying to "reconcile" these two cointradictions through "the person of Jesus Christ", why not accept that God is love and go from there?

There is already a cointradictory statement in the Bible that you do not want to address with me.

Why would i accept anything if there is no proof of it? How does god show us his love exactly? Through war, diseases, hunger?

By not giving us the greater war we are asking for when we reject God and His salvation. By limiting the starvation. By taking us home to a wonderful life in Heaven when we die believing in Him.

Do you want to reject yourself by rejecting God on some mistaken principle that you hold? Go ahead. So you don't understand it. God is God. Either take the only way to eternal life through accepting Him, or be stubborn and go into eternal death. The death thing won't be fun.

Why off-topic all the time? Can't you start a new thread? Oh, I get it. Since you are accepting the eternal death thing, who cares about a little idea like being on-topic, right?

[bl4kjaguar]

Non-Biblical teachings that seem to be about God may be correct in some areas, but because they are false in other areas, they are not really about God.

God is not jealous or wrathful; God is love.
Instead of trying to "reconcile" these two cointradictions through "the person of Jesus Christ", why not accept that God is love and go from there?

Because they are different points, the thing that I was talking about that you quoted, and the thing that you are talking about. Sometimes we need to talk about different things. Why not continue with my point?

Where have I ever pointed you to a teaching that is false? And by what standard/criteria did you determine that?

It is by no means obvious that "Non-Biblical teachings" will be false no matter what: as I have mentioned to you already, there is no way to prove that a given Scripture is divinely-inspired (this is contrary to what is often taught to Christians), you can only make suggestions about the quality of the writing in the context of the content-source problem.

Kindly treat me as a little child. Explain the on-topic contradictory statement. If it is not on-topic, you could always start a new thread.

We are qualifying the type of God that exists; for our definition, we will say that God is the ONE BEING, ONE POWER, or ONE SPIRIT; any of these words will work.

To say that the ONE BEING is wrathful and jealous is probably not the right perception; that is not what spirituality is about!

The essence of God is love. God is not wrath and jealousy, yet you have said that others will incur God's wrath and your Bible states that God IS JEALOUS. This is plainly a cointradiction; I even saw it depicted as such in a little Christian pamphlet that I received today (one which is quite popular).

[Joshuar]

I was curious if you realized that you implicated Genesis as "all mistake."

I wouldn't mind if you explained it to me. However, I am rather impatient. Please do it in as few words as possible.

Thanks.

Sure.

First you say:

...Quran is perfection of mistakes. In other words, it is entire mistake.

Then I point out:

...the Quran and the Bible are virtually identical up until the house of Abraham.

Therefore:

-  If the Quran is "all mistake," and...
-  If the Quran and Bible are initially identical...
-  Then the Bible is initially "all mistake"  (because it is initially identical to the Quran which you dscribed as "all mistake")

Thanks, again.

Actually, the reverse is true. Even if the beginning of Quran were exactly the same as the beginning of Genesis, the fact that the Quran is against the idea of Jesus salvation for all people, makes the Quran complete imperfection. Beyond this, it makes the Quran a book of blasphemy and hypocrisy. Why? In Genesis, after the first sin in the Garden, God who walked in the Garden in His form as Jesus with the first two people, promised the Messiah.

The whole Bible, including Genesis, is there for the salvation of people through Jesus salvation. Jesus is the Messiah that the Jews say is prophesied about by Moses and other prophets, even though many Jews don't accept Him as such.

Since the Quran promises Heaven (salvation) by personal works righteousness, if it has a mixture of Messiah salvation along with works righteousness salvation, it is mixed-up and self-contradictory.

You should be telling this to yourself, not to me.

If the reverse is true, then why did you say the opposite earlier?

Look, you contradicted yourself earlier and now you're disagreeing with what you had said.  Don't tell me "actually, the reverse is true" when the reverse is completely false based upon your earlier words.

All you're doing is essentially claiming you are right no matter what position you take or what you say.  It's not my fault you can't keep your thoughts organized.

So I've been keeping track a little. This is the 77th time BADecker has contradicted himself/told a blatant lie.