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October 30, 2017, 02:02:17 PM |
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If you get how the zerocoin protocol works you will see how easy it is to have privacy. It's possible to keep all your coins untraceable on pivx, by keeping them on the zpiv form, however you can't stake this way. And once they come from the zpiv accumlator, what can you say about the origin or destination of those pivx? nothing.  . And this statement just proves that they are not Fungable and can never be. /answering shill mode off I feel like the goal of trying to cast the widest net for suckers users has many treating privacy as a feature, rather than a function. Until their goal is fungibility and creating the largest anonymity set, they will continue to stare at Monero's design in dumb awe. They neither understand that Monero's user base demands best in class privacy or how to attain best in class privacy--to them marketing and better-than-Bitcoin's-privacy are enough.
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October 30, 2017, 02:43:19 PM |
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Er what? Cryptocurrencies are either traceable or untraceable, there’s no in between. So is he saying that Zcash is traceable or it can be made traceable?
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October 30, 2017, 03:50:28 PM Last edit: October 30, 2017, 04:04:28 PM by Febo |
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I went check this for a reddit post when someone complained how bad Monero preformed in last 2 months. It is logical it did since bithumb listing was exactly 2 months ago. SO i took last 3 months and top20 coins that exist at least 3 months and got this. OMG 1.22 7.22 +492% NEO 7.3 28.2 +286% BCC 62 224 +261% LISK 1.83 4.74 +159% BTC 2695 6045 +124%XMR 41 89 +117%XLM 0.016 0.03 +88% QTUM 5.63 10.31 +83% DASH 178 274 +54% ETH 202 306 +51% IOTA 0.26 0.39 +50% LTC 40 57 +43% ZEC 184 238 +29% BHC 355 455 +28% NEM 0.16 0.2 +25% WAVES 2.8 3.47 +24% XRP 0.17 0.2 +18% STRAT 4.92 4.21 -14%ETC 14 11 -21%EOS 1.78 0.66 -63%You see Monero is closest to Bitcoin. And in top 30%. Luckily for us we did not hold EOS. Just for fun I heard NASDAQ index is doing well lately 6348 6699 +5.5%. Better then 3 red coins it is. 
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October 30, 2017, 04:25:48 PM |
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I went check this for a reddit post when someone complained how bad Monero preformed in last 2 months. It is logical it did since bithumb listing was exactly 2 months ago. SO i took last 3 months and top20 coins that exist at least 3 months and got this. OMG 1.22 7.22 +492% NEO 7.3 28.2 +286% BCC 62 224 +261% LISK 1.83 4.74 +159% BTC 2695 6045 +124%XMR 41 89 +117%XLM 0.016 0.03 +88% QTUM 5.63 10.31 +83% DASH 178 274 +54% ETH 202 306 +51% IOTA 0.26 0.39 +50% LTC 40 57 +43% ZEC 184 238 +29% BHC 355 455 +28% NEM 0.16 0.2 +25% WAVES 2.8 3.47 +24% XRP 0.17 0.2 +18% STRAT 4.92 4.21 -14%ETC 14 11 -21%EOS 1.78 0.66 -63%You see Monero is closest to Bitcoin. And in top 30%. Luckily for us we did not hold EOS. Just for fun I heard NASDAQ index is doing well lately 6348 6699 +5.5%. Better then 3 red coins it is.  Good job Febo! Well done! It seems to be easy, I wonder that idea of this comparision didn't come to my mind ;> But maybe your conclusions should be that we have to sell XMR as overpriced asset ;> Speaking not quite serious.. I had a dream few nights ago that Monero price had risen significantly above $ 100.. It's so strange because XMR have no first place in my altfolio that it was monero in my dream indeed.. Could we expect such a rise in near future in real world?
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October 30, 2017, 04:43:37 PM |
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Hmm i remember it was always around rank.5- Does anyone who monitor coingecko rankings more closely tells what was the main reasons Monero went ahead of Ripple and Litecoin.
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October 30, 2017, 04:46:08 PM |
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Good job Febo! Well done! It seems to be easy, I wonder that idea of this comparision didn't come to my mind ;> But maybe your conclusions should be that we have to sell XMR as overpriced asset ;> Speaking not quite serious.. I had a dream few nights ago that Monero price had risen significantly above $ 100.. It's so strange because XMR have no first place in my altfolio that it was monero in my dream indeed.. Could we expect such a rise in near future in real world? Interesting statistic. I don't think it's overpriced. If you compare Monero to other cryptos you can see it's definitely not overpriced. This must be a sign from god. I will buy tons of Monero. (1-2 because I don't really have a lot of money  ) Hmm i remember it was always around rank.5- Does anyone who monitor coingecko rankings more closely tells what was the main reasons Monero went ahead of Ripple and Litecoin. Monero seems a lot more active in terms of development. Look at new commits in last 4 weeks. And it's very close from 3rd-5th place in total.
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generalizethis
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October 30, 2017, 04:50:27 PM |
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Hmm i remember it was always around rank.5- Does anyone who monitor coingecko rankings more closely tells what was the main reasons Monero went ahead of Ripple and Litecoin. I think litecoin's git has a lot of tumbleweeds atm, whereas monero's looks like a gold rush. Haven't really paid attention to ripple.
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October 30, 2017, 05:52:43 PM |
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Ripple, Vertcoin and even Doge have larger communities than Monero! ouch.
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rangedriver
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October 30, 2017, 06:02:17 PM |
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Ripple, Vertcoin and even Doge have larger communities than Monero! ouch. Privacy peeps don't do Facebook? Who knew?
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generalizethis
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October 30, 2017, 06:02:42 PM |
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Ripple, Vertcoin and even Doge have larger communities than Monero! ouch. Not sure why they even use facebook as a metric for monero, a privacy coin shouldn't have a strong facebook presence. What's paragon coin? They have a ton of likes. Also, vertcoin's stats don't match their rank, though that could be because of an unlisted metric.
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rangedriver
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October 30, 2017, 06:08:36 PM |
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Ripple, Vertcoin and even Doge have larger communities than Monero! ouch. Not sure why they even use facebook as a metric for monero, a privacy coin shouldn't have a strong facebook presence. What's paragon coin? They have a ton of likes. Also, vertcoin's stats don't match their rank, though that could be because of an unlisted metric. Plus... reddit subscribers is somewhat illusionary if the coin was once popular and now isn't so much (Dogecoin for example). Number of users online is a far better metric. Also IRC stats and other real-time social metrics give a crucial sense of social industry. (Of which Monero is number 2).
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October 30, 2017, 06:10:05 PM |
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Ripple, Vertcoin and even Doge have larger communities than Monero! ouch. Not sure why they even use facebook as a metric for monero, a privacy coin shouldn't have a strong facebook presence. What's paragon coin? They have a ton of likes. Also, vertcoin's stats don't match their rank, though that could be because of an unlisted metric. Yes that Vertcoin stats are strange. Everyone knew that Dogecoin have lots of followers and big community. Paragon was some recent ICO with an rapper and a model as main faces. It gained lots of publicity I guess that is why so many Facebook followers.
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October 30, 2017, 06:16:40 PM |
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hey guys, anyone has some price predictions  :D ?? I hear rumers about upswing starting from november... or does it look more like we hold between 85 and 95 usd ?
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October 30, 2017, 06:16:57 PM |
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Everyone knew that Dogecoin have lots of followers and big community.
Dogecoin had a huge community a couple of years ago. But with the price fall and some scams too many got disappointed and have left that boat. The community is not that big anymore, just check on reddit: 81k followers, some 400 active members. Monero has more actives 
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October 30, 2017, 06:39:36 PM |
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Ripple, Vertcoin and even Doge have larger communities than Monero! ouch. Not sure why they even use facebook as a metric for monero, a privacy coin shouldn't have a strong facebook presence. What's paragon coin? They have a ton of likes. Also, vertcoin's stats don't match their rank, though that could be because of an unlisted metric. Paragon coin is a shitty ico erc20 coin that advertises incessantly on Facebook and Twitter, which makes it obvious why they have a strong presence there. If you actually look at the comments they get many of them are like "fuck off scammers", but they probably still count as a net positive on gecko rankings since I don't they have any ai to determine positive and negative responses.
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October 30, 2017, 06:40:44 PM |
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Everyone knew that Dogecoin have lots of followers and big community.
Dogecoin had a huge community a couple of years ago. But with the price fall and some scams too many got disappointed and have left that boat. The community is not that big anymore, just check on reddit: 81k followers, some 400 active members. Monero has more actives  That's a ratio of 0.5 % lol. Anyway price of monero is quite stable the last month (between 85$-95$), hopefully price can get up again and reach new ATH.
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October 30, 2017, 06:46:24 PM |
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hey guys, anyone has some price predictions  :D ?? I hear rumers about upswing starting from november... or does it look more like we hold between 85 and 95 usd ? I wouldn't give a price but i'm confident come 2018 nobody will look at xmr/btc pairs anymore, that goes for all major alts with already decent fiat volume, in usd terms i'm bullish but it probably takes till next march before the real party starts. thats how i envision it in my little crypto universe 
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October 30, 2017, 06:57:48 PM |
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Ripple, Vertcoin and even Doge have larger communities than Monero! ouch. Privacy peeps don't do Facebook? Who knew? Haha I can confirm that I definitely do not have a facebook.
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October 30, 2017, 07:05:59 PM |
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hey guys, anyone has some price predictions  :D ?? I hear rumers about upswing starting from november... or does it look more like we hold between 85 and 95 usd ? I wouldn't give a price but i'm confident come 2018 nobody will look at xmr/btc pairs anymore, that goes for all major alts with already decent fiat volume, in usd terms i'm bullish but it probably takes till next march before the real party starts. thats how i envision it in my little crypto universe  That is always difficult to decide. Do you think XMR/BTC will slowly drop while BTC rises and therefore keeping XMR Fiat value stable?
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