[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Hueristic]

I think monero will rise more than the other big cap names.

The higher #Bitcoin rallies, the stronger the Altcoin pumps will be

$BTC has rallied over 180% since its bottom in mid-December 2018

On average, most $ALTS have only pumped ~30%

This discrepancy isn't going to last for long
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https://twitter.com/rektcapital/status/1133398109344677888

Hope so.  Never in its history did XMR rise at super high velocity more than say ETH except the Alphabay pump.  XMR/BTC mostly moves in a range longer than other alts before trending up.

Don't remind me, that fucked me so bad.

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[Chicken_76]

Over the past 24h Bitcoin went up about 1% , but everything else with 'Bitcoin' in the name has been pumping hard:

Bitcoin Cash: 6%
Bitcoin SV: 56%
Bitcoin Gold: 22%
Bitcoin Diamond: 53%
Lightning Bitcoin: 12%

In the meantime, Monero only went up 3%. What do all these 'Bitcoin something's offer that Bitcoin + Monero do not? How can the market be so out of touch with reality?

[generalizethis]

Over the past 24h Bitcoin went up about 1% , but everything else with 'Bitcoin' in the name has been pumping hard:

Bitcoin Cash: 6%
Bitcoin SV: 56%
Bitcoin Gold: 22%
Bitcoin Diamond: 53%
Lightning Bitcoin: 12%

In the meantime, Monero only went up 3%. What do all these 'Bitcoin something's offer that Bitcoin + Monero do not? How can the market be so out of touch with reality?

Don't know about the other coins, but SV's volume has never looked organic, so hard to take it seriously.

[Hueristic]

Over the past 24h Bitcoin went up about 1% , but everything else with 'Bitcoin' in the name has been pumping hard:

Bitcoin Cash: 6%
Bitcoin SV: 56%
Bitcoin Gold: 22%
Bitcoin Diamond: 53%
Lightning Bitcoin: 12%

In the meantime, Monero only went up 3%. What do all these 'Bitcoin something's offer that Bitcoin + Monero do not? How can the market be so out of touch with reality?

They offer a quick pump with the incoming dump, do you want to be the bag holder when the curtain comes down?

Not one of them has any other reason for existence except as a P&D scam.

The reality of the market is there are more scammers (speculators) than people who actually want to change the world. There are those that see crypto as a vehicle of change and are those that are just trying to use that vision to game the old system and profit. Shortsighted people are in the majority and that is why the human race is in a fucking race with extinction. Let them have their short term gains, they are too stupid to know what they are doing anyway and think winning is a lambo.

[Febo]

Over the past 24h Bitcoin went up about 1% , but everything else with 'Bitcoin' in the name has been pumping hard:

Bitcoin Cash: 6%
Bitcoin SV: 56%
Bitcoin Gold: 22%
Bitcoin Diamond: 53%
Lightning Bitcoin: 12%

In the meantime, Monero only went up 3%. What do all these 'Bitcoin something's offer that Bitcoin + Monero do not? How can the market be so out of touch with reality?

I think that we are again in that time when this pumps happens. One day one coin other day other coin. eventually none will get exempted. Last year that did not happen, now it seems will start again.  When this happens the worst you can do is to worry about it since you did not used it. You simply cant be on every pump. Impossible.  

What I see right now is Bitcoin at almost $9000, what is way more as I expected to be at this time of 2019.  I also see Monero keep pace of great development. Beside that I also see a rain of new research papers that offers possible improvements in Monero. I dont think that any month in past so many come out as this May.  

To me it all looks like it never were better. No matter how much coin X gained value today or if Coin Y will implement ability to tie my shoelaces tomorrow.

[Sipizter]

Over the past 24h Bitcoin went up about 1% , but everything else with 'Bitcoin' in the name has been pumping hard:

Bitcoin Cash: 6%
Bitcoin SV: 56%
Bitcoin Gold: 22%
Bitcoin Diamond: 53%
Lightning Bitcoin: 12%

In the meantime, Monero only went up 3%. What do all these 'Bitcoin something's offer that Bitcoin + Monero do not? How can the market be so out of touch with reality?

Don't know about the other coins, but SV's volume has never looked organic, so hard to take it seriously.

I guess the reason for BSV pump is the fact that Craig Wright filed a copyright claim for original Bitcoin Whitepaper as Satoshi Nakamoto. So I guess some people really believe him to be Satoshi...

[Globb0]

Monero is gone a little bit lower profile.

Its a shame when they were all here fighting us that was exposure.

What can be done to raise the coins profile?


I am open to suggestions, viable options can be worth seeking some funding

[GingerAle]

Over the past 24h Bitcoin went up about 1% , but everything else with 'Bitcoin' in the name has been pumping hard:

Bitcoin Cash: 6%
Bitcoin SV: 56%
Bitcoin Gold: 22%
Bitcoin Diamond: 53%
Lightning Bitcoin: 12%

In the meantime, Monero only went up 3%. What do all these 'Bitcoin something's offer that Bitcoin + Monero do not? How can the market be so out of touch with reality?

They offer a quick pump with the incoming dump, do you want to be the bag holder when the curtain comes down?

Not one of them has any other reason for existence except as a P&D scam.

The reality of the market is there are more scammers (speculators) than people who actually want to change the world. There are those that see crypto as a vehicle of change and are those that are just trying to use that vision to game the old system and profit. Shortsighted people are in the majority and that is why the human race is in a fucking race with extinction. Let them have their short term gains, they are too stupid to know what they are doing anyway and think winning is a lambo.

amen. The fact that monero is still making progress give me hope in humanity.  The fact that monero was salvaged from a scam attempt is.... ironic. The fact that bitcoin is plodding towards a dystopian surveillance state with willfully blind participants is... disturbing. Monero *needs* to survive and thrive.

and I speculate bananas.

[Hueristic]

Over the past 24h Bitcoin went up about 1% , but everything else with 'Bitcoin' in the name has been pumping hard:

Bitcoin Cash: 6%
Bitcoin SV: 56%
Bitcoin Gold: 22%
Bitcoin Diamond: 53%
Lightning Bitcoin: 12%

In the meantime, Monero only went up 3%. What do all these 'Bitcoin something's offer that Bitcoin + Monero do not? How can the market be so out of touch with reality?

They offer a quick pump with the incoming dump, do you want to be the bag holder when the curtain comes down?

Not one of them has any other reason for existence except as a P&D scam.

The reality of the market is there are more scammers (speculators) than people who actually want to change the world. There are those that see crypto as a vehicle of change and are those that are just trying to use that vision to game the old system and profit. Shortsighted people are in the majority and that is why the human race is in a fucking race with extinction. Let them have their short term gains, they are too stupid to know what they are doing anyway and think winning is a lambo.

amen. The fact that monero is still making progress give me hope in humanity.  The fact that monero was salvaged from a scam attempt is.... ironic. The fact that bitcoin is plodding towards a dystopian surveillance state with willfully blind participants is... disturbing. Monero *needs* to survive and thrive.

and I speculate bananas.

Nice to see you post, spot on with your prediction as usual.

[Whtwabbit]

Over the past 24h Bitcoin went up about 1% , but everything else with 'Bitcoin' in the name has been pumping hard:

Bitcoin Cash: 6%
Bitcoin SV: 56%
Bitcoin Gold: 22%
Bitcoin Diamond: 53%
Lightning Bitcoin: 12%

In the meantime, Monero only went up 3%. What do all these 'Bitcoin something's offer that Bitcoin + Monero do not? How can the market be so out of touch with reality?

They offer a quick pump with the incoming dump, do you want to be the bag holder when the curtain comes down?

Not one of them has any other reason for existence except as a P&D scam.

The reality of the market is there are more scammers (speculators) than people who actually want to change the world. There are those that see crypto as a vehicle of change and are those that are just trying to use that vision to game the old system and profit. Shortsighted people are in the majority and that is why the human race is in a fucking race with extinction. Let them have their short term gains, they are too stupid to know what they are doing anyway and think winning is a lambo.

amen. The fact that monero is still making progress give me hope in humanity.  The fact that monero was salvaged from a scam attempt is.... ironic. The fact that bitcoin is plodding towards a dystopian surveillance state with willfully blind participants is... disturbing. Monero *needs* to survive and thrive.

and I speculate bananas.

The "willfully blind participants" that are starting to open their eyes is trending up, monero will grow with them, long term looking good

[KeyJockey]

Hey fellas... how'z it hangin'? 

I been "away" awhile, again.  Still "OUT" mostly.  Long ago even before the 'crypto winter' was really "real" to all of us I'd speculated that the crashing would be overwith sometime around late springtime towards early summer 2019 (i.e. now).

Soooooooooo... gotta start thinkin' about coming back, I guess.

But, I dunno. IS it really "time" yet now?  Or kinda sorta maybe feels like there's gonna be one more leg-down crashola just to shake the monkeys one last time, before we REALLY start to get going towards next retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

Whaddaya dudes all think?  Maybe I oughta "get back in" but with only like 'half' yet... and wait & see on the other half?

Something like that?  Or still just thinkin' out loud here awhile yet again.

LOL 

[kurious]

Hey fellas... how'z it hangin'? 

I been "away" awhile, again.  Still "OUT" mostly.  Long ago even before the 'crypto winter' was really "real" to all of us I'd speculated that the crashing would be overwith sometime around late springtime towards early summer 2019 (i.e. now).

Soooooooooo... gotta start thinkin' about coming back, I guess.

But, I dunno. IS it really "time" yet now?  Or kinda sorta maybe feels like there's gonna be one more leg-down crashola just to shake the monkeys one last time, before we REALLY start to get going towards next retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

Whaddaya dudes all think?  Maybe I oughta "get back in" but with only like 'half' yet... and wait & see on the other half?

Something like that?  Or still just thinkin' out loud here awhile yet again.

LOL 

Welcome back, KeyJockey.

Well the crypto winter ended (effectively) in December with BTC dropping to $3122.

Since then BTC has seen a decent recovery and accumulation phase as I am sure you can see.   A real 'alt season' has not really kicked off yet, with BTC dominance mostly increasing since the start of the year (it was over 60% not too long back). However, green shoots are appearing - so your timing is about right.

Certainly Monero at over $90 is better than sub $40 as XMR was in December, but while keeping up respectably well in USD terms, against BTC it hasn't really performed yet - probably due to the stage of the cycle IMHO.

With BTC slipping back into a mid-50s percentile dominance-wise, it looks like alts are waking up - and XMR is sitting mid-table in performance terms, having lost less than most during the crypto winter.  Institutional fund money when and if it comes may buy a top-20 basket of CC to help out, but whatever happens it looks fairly obvious big-caps are largely doing better than minor alts.

For me, it's not a time to sell XMR and it is still sitting at no. 12, or 13 in market cap, in spite of stable coins and platforms taking spots all over the top 20.   

'Real private money' - Monero's use case (and dominance for privacy) does not really need arguing any more.

I'd say: Sit tight, keep a balance in BTC and XMR - and tread very carefully if you feel like going elsewhere in the wonderful world of crypto, many alts are on life-support at best.

[Febo]

But, I dunno. IS it really "time" yet now?  Or kinda sorta maybe feels like there's gonna be one more leg-down crashola just to shake the monkeys one last time, before we REALLY start to get going towards next retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

Leg down is always possible. But better name for it would be a bear trap. And would bounce back to levers where we are right now really fast. Bear trap is an option, but I would not bet on in.

[pa]

....retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

What are you counting as the most recent ATH? $450? So you're expecting the next ATH of ~$4500 by 2020? That would be nice, but seems unlikely.
But what do I know? I predicted $175 for New Years Day.

[KeyJockey]

....retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

What are you counting as the most recent ATH? $450? So you're expecting the next ATH of ~$4500 by 2020? That would be nice, but seems unlikely.
But what do I know? I predicted $175 for New Years Day.

Well no I'm speculating "in general" about "crypto in general" over the mid-to-longterm future.

No idea as of yet about SPECIFIC coins (even tho this IS the monero forum and I still *DO* believe in HoneyPony!)

But overall what I mean about this is just the overall general trend since Satoshi first launched the original BTC blockchain.

no value to a penny (10x)
penny to a dime (10x)
dime to a dollar (10x)
dollar to $10 (10x)
$10 to $100 (10x)
$100 to $1000 (10x) <--- my first rodeo LOL
$1000 to $20,000 <--- my second rodeo but the one I fucked up BOTH of 'em after... doh!
And, BTW, which IMHO was a double-overshoot: should've peaked about HALF of last cycle!
Too much hype/manipulation more than usual?? Maybe 'cuz of fucking Tether???

So... "you-are-here" now...?

And, Future?

SOMETHING... some coin... maybe BTC? Maybe NOT?  Will "retake" $10,000??

Then...

$10,000 to $100,000 <--- my THIRD rodeo, which I hope *this time*...?  I won't fuck it all up!!!!

And maybe finally...?

$100,000 to the mythical $1 Million Per Coin, global adoption and use by everyone, transactions priced in 0.00000001 satoshi-as-penny usage.

That final one IF and WHEN it can ever happen, would be my FOURTH rodeo here so hopefully by then fully experienced and knowledgable enough to really NOT FUCK IT UP by the time the Fat Lady really finally SINGS.

Again as for IF this will be "BTC" or not, or XMR, or BCH (don't shoot me!) or something ELSE totally unexpected out of left field?  Who Da Fuck KNOWS???

[gembitz]

when does poloniex geofence monero? ( xmr )    lol

[dEBRUYNE]

when does poloniex geofence monero? ( xmr )    lol

Monero is one of the coins that is definitely not a security. As for it's privacy features:

People often like to purport that Monero will inevitably get banned. However, the new FinCEN guidance is basically inconsistent with that notion. From the CoinCenter article:

Section 4.5.3 states that exchanges are not per se banned from using privacy-preserving cryptocurrencies but will need to comply with the same BSA regulations they comply with for typical cryptocurrencies. We believe that this is possible. Exchanges need to know their customers but they do not have a black letter law requirement to know the customers of their customers. In other words, a bank needs to know who you are but they are not obligated to know the name and address of people that you pay using cash you withdraw from your account.

https://coincenter.org/entry/fincen-s-new-cryptocurrency-guidance-matches-coin-center-recommendations

Arguably, this is long-term bullish for Monero.

[ukloon]

Monero is bullush for 2 reasons, not good ones but anyway.. As the leading privacy coin it will be used for dark purchasing whether is via the dark web or P2P monero will be there as one of the payment choices. Also, people who wish to hide their wealth will store it in monero rather than BTC

[birr]

Monero is bullush for 2 reasons, not good ones but anyway.. As the leading privacy coin it will be used for dark purchasing whether is via the dark web or P2P monero will be there as one of the payment choices. Also, people who wish to hide their wealth will store it in monero rather than BTC

Nothing wrong with those reasons.
The dark web has its good side.  I forget who said "you can't get knifed buying drugs on the web" or something to that effect.  And dark web drug bazaar seller rating systems means good drugs.  You don't want to end up like some meth head in Gary, Indiana who lost his teeth to caustic meth cooked in a trailer park.  Arguably, when a dark bazaar like Silk Road gets taken down, it means more deaths due to drug impurities and violence.
And "hiding your wealth" isn't illegal per se.  I don't want Fat Vinny and his crew knowing where I keep my benjamins or my Monori.

[gembitz]

when does poloniex geofence monero? ( xmr )    lol

Monero is one of the coins that is definitely not a security. As for it's privacy features:

...>_>

~Monero was literally forked from bytecoin you n00b! ..where is the logic behind this??hmm    lmfaooo #geofencing