[XMR] Monero Speculation

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Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

He denied the report

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awe because he won't add your shitcoin? lol poloniex is the shitty exchange with FLUFFY PONY ass fucker XMR bytecoin clone!!    reee

Ya know i ignore your shit but its been slow here so i read this and i gotta say your just going off the rails. You shit is getting more and more outlandish everyday. I thought trolls tried to trick fools? How can you possibly think touting a shitcoin that had a daily volume of 600 bucks ON A  PUMP and attacking a dev thats accomplished more than you have your entire life in just 4 years?

You need to step back and up your game its just not becoming and frankly I'm embarrassed for you. Anyway I just clicked "view ignored" because i was bored, I doubt I'll be reading another one of your posts for awhile so don't bother responding.[size]

[Hueristic]

Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

He denied the report

Do you have a link to the denial?

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Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

He denied the report

Do you have a link to the denial?

Check his twitter feed. The original reply where he said "I never said this" is less clear because the original tweet was then deleted however the later ones where he just tags them as #fakenews are still there.

[kurious]

Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

He denied the report

Do you have a link to the denial?

Check his twitter feed. The original reply where he said "I never said this" is less clear because the original tweet was then deleted however the later ones where he just tags them as #fakenews are still there.

I don't know about this quote's veracity, but he hosted a debate with Tuur Demeester and Jimmy Song I watched (yeah, it was slow day) and he raised (positively) the importance of privacy to the guests.  Both said the lack of opacity of Bitcoin's blockchain was essential, seemingly dismissive of the whole privacy issue.  He looked like he disagreed, to me - he didn't mention Monero, but I would have thought he'd understand the value, I'd certainly be surprised if he dismissed privacy wholesale.

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Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

Crypto enthusiast Max Keiser revealed the fact that he’s pretty certain that Monero will gain the position as a market leader.

He believes that this is bound to happen sooner rather than later.

Keiser supports Monero and pointed out the lack of fungibility in Bitcoin’s case.

He said that Monero can serve this purpose and as a result, the privacy-oriented coin will become one of the top three digital assets in the crypto market soon.

Keiser is a maximalist's maximalist.  AND he tends to be right.  The fact he thinks this about Monero is pretty interesting.

(Oh... just read the other posts... it was kind of surprising.)

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Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

He denied the report

Do you have a link to the denial?

Check his twitter feed. The original reply where he said "I never said this" is less clear because the original tweet was then deleted however the later ones where he just tags them as #fakenews are still there.

I don't know about this quote's veracity, but he hosted a debate with Tuur Demeester and Jimmy Song I watched (yeah, it was slow day) and he raised (positively) the importance of privacy to the guests.  Both said the lack of opacity of Bitcoin's blockchain was essential, seemingly dismissive of the whole privacy issue.  He looked like he disagreed, to me - he didn't mention Monero, but I would have thought he'd understand the value, I'd certainly be surprised if he dismissed privacy wholesale.

I agree. It may have been that the quote was taken out of context or misrepresented and that was his objection, but he definitely recognizes that privacy is important. There was an interview during MCC where he said that he thought Monero could do well alongside Bitcoin for a long time based on its commitment to privacy but that eventually Bitcoin would become private and Monero would not be needed.

[Hueristic]

Holy shit I havn't been keeping up but this is hilarious!

https://youtu.be/3etTQE504Jo

[elrippos friend]

Holy shit I havn't been keeping up but this is hilarious!

https://youtu.be/3etTQE504Jo

Indeed, i just laughed my ass of  I'll have to watch part one later, but that is really great stuff 

[Hueristic]

Holy shit I havn't been keeping up but this is hilarious!

https://youtu.be/3etTQE504Jo

Indeed, i just laughed my ass of  I'll have to watch part one later, but that is really great stuff 

Glad you liked it, where you been?

[Millionero]

Therapist:
Nouriel, show me on the doll where bitcoin touched you.
Roubini:
Here!  Right here on my a-butt-a!  Bitcoin touch me on my a-butt-a!
Therapist:
Did it hurt, Nouriel?
Roubini:
Yes, my butt a-hurt-a!  I am a-butt-a-hurta!

[elrippos friend]

Holy shit I havn't been keeping up but this is hilarious!

https://youtu.be/3etTQE504Jo

Indeed, i just laughed my ass of  I'll have to watch part one later, but that is really great stuff 

Glad you liked it, where you been?

Thanks  I am around, just observing 

[7jaka7]

Holy shit I havn't been keeping up but this is hilarious!

https://youtu.be/3etTQE504Jo

Indeed, i just laughed my ass of  I'll have to watch part one later, but that is really great stuff 

Glad you liked it, where you been?

Thanks  I am around, just observing 

Don't lie... We know you're working your ass off to buy as much cheap moneros as possible!

[Febo]

We have more and more articles posting about that wallet bug, that was found by HackerOne as part of a our bug bounty program, from half year ago to be a minting bug. Not sure if that is a deliberate FUD or just. It is funny how you make something super good with community founded bounty rewards and it can be still presented bad at the end. 

[Hueristic]

We have more and more articles posting about that wallet bug, that was found by HackerOne as part of a our bug bounty program, from half year ago to be a minting bug. Not sure if that is a deliberate FUD or just. It is funny how you make something super good with community founded bounty rewards and it can be still presented bad at the end. 

Yeah, looks like a FUd campaign going on atm.

[elrippos friend]

We have more and more articles posting about that wallet bug, that was found by HackerOne as part of a our bug bounty program, from half year ago to be a minting bug. Not sure if that is a deliberate FUD or just. It is funny how you make something super good with community founded bounty rewards and it can be still presented bad at the end. 

Yeah, looks like a FUd campaign going on atm.

"if you are attacked, you are dangerous" --> best compliment for Monero 

[qwizzie]

Interesting, it made me look up the mentioned bug and i found this article :

https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-reports-on-resolving-fake-xmr-minting-bugs-a-month-after-fix

“Most of the vulnerabilities were disclosed few months ago, yet were only now fixed. While Monero developers are doing great work,
they cannot guarantee no new coins were minted by deceiving an exchange. If such an attack would occur, it might've taken a long time until
the exchange would've noticed it, unless their security mechanisms are advanced enough to scan its cold wallet storage and compare it with
account deposits very quickly.”

The article on itself is an interesting read and not something i consider specificly a FUD article.

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Interesting, it made me look up the mentioned bug and i found this article :

https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-reports-on-resolving-fake-xmr-minting-bugs-a-month-after-fix

they cannot guarantee no new coins were minted

This part is wrong.

Cointelegraph has been running false anti-Monero propaganda as long as there has been a Monero, although in this case I don't know if the error is deliberate or just careless.

I mean how careless can you be before it becomes more likely to be malicious? If you click through the link on that article and read their other article, you find this from the original researcher who discovered the bug:

“It is our belief that the vulnerability cannot be used to "mint" real, transactable monero out of thin air.”

No new coins were minted. Guaranteed.

The bug could only be used to fool an exchange into falsely crediting a users account, not to mint coins. Unlike a previous similar bug, this one is not known to have ever been exploited to fool an exchange at all. (The earlier bug was reportedly exploited, but only after a careless exchange failed to upgrade after a fix had already been released.)

[qwizzie]

Interesting, it made me look up the mentioned bug and i found this article :

https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-reports-on-resolving-fake-xmr-minting-bugs-a-month-after-fix

they cannot guarantee no new coins were minted

No new coins were minted. Guaranteed.

Having a closed blockchain like that of Monero + existance of critical bugs for some time + the increased number of Monero mining malware out in the open
makes it difficult for me to accept any ultimate guarantee on this matter.

It is true that these fake minting bugs only affect  exchanges, but what is to say hackers did not locate a (smaller) exchange / exchanges already
and were abusing them this way untill Monero patched up these bugs ? Whats to say these exchanges can even identify such problem occurring or having ocurred
on their exchange ?

Also the article mentions 9 security bugs of which 8 have been patched. Does this mean 1 is still open ?

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It is true that these fake minting bugs only affect  exchanges, but what is to say hackers did not locate a (smaller) exchange / exchanges already
and were abusing them this way untill Monero patched up these bugs ? Whats to say these exchanges can even identify such problem occurring or having ocurred
on their exchange ?

Then the exchange has incurred a normal business risk for running risky semi-experimental software (all cryptocurrencies, including Bitcoin), partially as a result of the bug, and partially as a result of lacking strict controls and audits on their own operations.

But in any case, no new coins were minted as a result of these bugs.

Also the article mentions 9 security bugs of which 8 have been patched. Does this mean 1 is still open ?

Math would suggest such (although my confidence in the accuracy of cointelegraph 'reporting' is extremely low, for good reasons, so I wouldn't reach any conclusions without a better source). I don't personally know but I would imagine the established process for vulnerability reporting is being carried out.

[Hueristic]

Interesting, it made me look up the mentioned bug and i found this article :

https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-reports-on-resolving-fake-xmr-minting-bugs-a-month-after-fix

they cannot guarantee no new coins were minted

No new coins were minted. Guaranteed.

Having a closed blockchain like that of Monero + existance of critical bugs for some time + the increased number of Monero mining malware out in the open
makes it difficult for me to accept any ultimate guarantee on this matter.

It is true that these fake minting bugs only affect  exchanges, but what is to say hackers did not locate a (smaller) exchange / exchanges already
and were abusing them this way untill Monero patched up these bugs ? Whats to say these exchanges can even identify such problem occurring or having ocurred
on their exchange ?

Also the article mentions 9 security bugs of which 8 have been patched. Does this mean 1 is still open ?

The article is a hit piece written so sloppily that i am not even bothering to read it to see what bugs you are mentioning as the lie that new coins can be minted shows right there they are incompetent or scamming fudders. So dyOr if you want to believe whatever that site prints.