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March 16, 2016, 07:37:47 PM |
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Hey, I just joined Kano,, new to mining -- initially set up at Antpool,, but after reading a little here, i've pointed my little S7 to Kano in the interest of decentralisation
Just 1 question -- Why does it show 4.9thz on my miner - but 4.4thz on the pool?
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bctmke
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March 16, 2016, 07:45:36 PM |
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Hey, I just joined Kano,, new to mining -- initially set up at Antpool,, but after reading a little here, i've pointed my little S7 to Kano in the interest of decentralisation
Just 1 question -- Why does it show 4.9thz on my miner - but 4.4thz on the pool?
Don't trust your miner. The bitmain firmware is notoriously wrong! |
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zOU
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March 16, 2016, 07:46:18 PM |
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Hello,
The pool shows the share rate which may be lower or higher than the hasrate.
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Legacy2005
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March 16, 2016, 08:09:40 PM |
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Hey, I just joined Kano,, new to mining -- initially set up at Antpool,, but after reading a little here, i've pointed my little S7 to Kano in the interest of decentralisation
Just 1 question -- Why does it show 4.9thz on my miner - but 4.4thz on the pool?
as others have said the pool will show share rate and hash rate in the worker chart. But it also depends on what number you are looking at on your miner. Are you reading the "live" hash or the average hash? you could try to OC the miner if you are wanting to push more power (or just buy a avalon (since they seem to have blocks falling out of them)). just remember its a balance between power/rated speed and hw errors. sometimes higher th isnt always better. |
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wolfen
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March 16, 2016, 08:58:45 PM |
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unknown on the blockchain means orphan?
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For those about to block we salute you! AC->BTC
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bitmine49
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March 16, 2016, 09:14:22 PM |
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800,592.01812447 BTC - block
Holy Toledo Batman
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flikflak
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March 16, 2016, 09:36:56 PM |
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unknown on the blockchain means orphan?
Nope, those coins are valid. The unknown ones are all going to the same F1fxc... Wallet. Seems to me, we have a new 30PH mine online somewhere.. somehow. Unknown blocks does not mean an attack on the network, it simply means we have been unable to determine the origin. |
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jonnybravo0311
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March 16, 2016, 09:41:28 PM |
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unknown on the blockchain means orphan?
Nope, those coins are valid. The unknown ones are all going to the same F1fxc... Wallet. Seems to me, we have a new 30PH mine online somewhere.. somehow. Unknown blocks does not mean an attack on the network, it simply means we have been unable to determine the origin. A lot of the newly seen "Unknown" blocks are actually mined by some new pool as can be seen in the coinbase sig: Mined by 1hash.com. It's a Chinese pool that apparently has about 35PH. |
Jonny's Pool - Mine with us and help us grow! Support a pool that supports Bitcoin, not a hardware manufacturer's pockets! No SPV cheats. No empty blocks.
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kano (OP)
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March 16, 2016, 09:53:20 PM |
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Wooo doggy - on a roll today! Edit - ok maybe got a little overzealous cause I got the CKPool Monitor e-mail a second ago and it said "approx 1.5% diff" which made me think we nailed another one right after that last 5.962% block. Still... i stand by my original statement.  Yeah, it is just an estimate. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1331875.msg14196983#msg14196983... well my estimate is only off by a small amount until it's corrected ... so, no it's nothing to do with me  |
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ZACHM
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March 16, 2016, 09:58:27 PM |
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Absolutely, your estimate is much much much closer than mine. As I state on my thread, my monitor only grabs the info every 5 minutes, so it can easily be off by up to 5 minutes worth of shares being submitted. With the pool rate where it is, that can be a lot of shares. |
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kano (OP)
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March 17, 2016, 12:41:40 AM |
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Anyone connected to the DE node will have failed over at 00:19 UTC Linode DE lost connection with the USA for about 3 minutes. Normal cgminer failover will have successfully reconnected on the next attempt. Anyone curious to read an mtr of it  # mtr --report kano.is
Start: Thu Mar 17 00:21:51 2016
HOST: de Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1.|-- router2-fra.linode.com 0.0% 10 0.6 0.6 0.6 0.7 0.0
2.|-- 139.162.129.3 0.0% 10 0.9 1.0 0.7 2.0 0.3
3.|-- 100ge7-2.core1.fra1.he.ne 0.0% 10 4.7 9.3 4.7 23.8 5.6
4.|-- 100ge5-2.core1.par2.he.ne 20.0% 10 25.7 14.3 12.5 25.7 4.6
5.|-- 100ge7-1.core1.nyc4.he.ne 0.0% 10 85.3 87.6 83.0 92.4 2.8
6.|-- 100ge7-2.core1.chi1.he.ne 80.0% 10 102.7 102.7 102.6 102.7 0.0
7.|-- 10ge15-2.core1.den1.he.ne 80.0% 10 134.3 133.7 133.1 134.3 0.0
8.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
9.|-- 10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net 80.0% 10 147.5 150.9 147.5 154.4 4.8
10.|-- vegasnap-llc.10gigabiteth 80.0% 10 148.3 148.2 148.1 148.3 0.0
11.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
12.|-- 192.228.109.50 70.0% 10 157.6 154.6 149.2 157.6 4.7
13.|-- kano.is 80.0% 10 148.2 148.2 148.2 148.2 0.0
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Newko
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March 17, 2016, 01:39:29 AM |
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So, I mentioned last week I was gonna sell my S7 on eBay bc my elec costs are too high (still making couple bucks/day but worried about the upcoming having). I was hoping to get $700 (less the eBay & PayPal fees), so I'm happy it sold yesterday for $825. (Waiting for payment, so jury is still out on how this is gonna end - it's a longtime buyer with good reviews, so I'm hopeful). I'm still mining here (my miner is johnboy21) until I get paid, so here's hoping we can break this logjam before I disconnect. Gonna go make a chicken omelate for breakfast  Well, guess what? I'm still here mining on Kano bc the butthead who won the eBay bid failed to pay.  This is the second time in 2 weeks this has happened. I'm starting to think this is a sign from above that I should not sell and I should just hang in and keep mining. What say you, fellas (and gals?) - with apologies to The Clash, "Should I stay or should I sell?" |
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aarons6
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March 17, 2016, 02:33:01 AM |
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So, I mentioned last week I was gonna sell my S7 on eBay bc my elec costs are too high (still making couple bucks/day but worried about the upcoming having). I was hoping to get $700 (less the eBay & PayPal fees), so I'm happy it sold yesterday for $825. (Waiting for payment, so jury is still out on how this is gonna end - it's a longtime buyer with good reviews, so I'm hopeful). I'm still mining here (my miner is johnboy21) until I get paid, so here's hoping we can break this logjam before I disconnect. Gonna go make a chicken omelate for breakfast Well, guess what? I'm still here mining on Kano bc the butthead who won the eBay bid failed to pay. This is the second time in 2 weeks this has happened. I'm starting to think this is a sign from above that I should not sell and I should just hang in and keep mining. What say you, fellas (and gals?) - with apologies to The Clash, "Should I stay or should I sell?" he probably figured out he can buy a new one cheaper.. but yes, if you make money even if its 1$ its worth keeping it plugged in. after the halving, you might have to re-evaluate but you still have a few months. |
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March 17, 2016, 02:46:14 AM |
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Hey Guys, i'm kinda new to the game here. I've been playing around with 4 s7's for a couple weeks now. I own an IT company with our own data center so we are kind of running an experiment with these 4 to learn more about pools with multiple machines, how to manage multiple machines etc.
I've read about why to use kano vs antmine and I fully support that. but as we build a business plan to invest in hardware etc to go big ~150 machines. The problem i've had so far, and keep in mind this is over the last 2-3 weeks.... I get better results with antmine.
With my 4 boxes I can do a steady and predictable 0.1btc with my 4 miners. On here the last few days i'm lucky if i'm getting 0.05.
Am I missing something?
Another question I have is with a machine that finds a block. Does that user get a larger reward or what happens?
I'm aware of the halving, we're working to build experience and knowledge so we can make a very good educated decision on how to move forward after the halving and the potential new hardware.
Kano, we're in canada also and own two smaller data centers, we should chat about a canadian node?
Thanks in advance!
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LoneRangir
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March 17, 2016, 02:53:39 AM |
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With my 4 boxes I can do a steady and predictable 0.1btc with my 4 miners. On here the last few days i'm lucky if i'm getting 0.05.
Am I missing something?
Zach's monitor can show you what we've been earning over the last day, week, month, etc... Things have been somewhat erratic over the last 7 days. https://ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com/Another question I have is with a machine that finds a block. Does that user get a larger reward or what happens?
No, we're all in it together You get your fair share. |
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philipma1957
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March 17, 2016, 03:08:44 AM |
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Hey Guys, i'm kinda new to the game here. I've been playing around with 4 s7's for a couple weeks now. I own an IT company with our own data center so we are kind of running an experiment with these 4 to learn more about pools with multiple machines, how to manage multiple machines etc.
I've read about why to use kano vs antmine and I fully support that. but as we build a business plan to invest in hardware etc to go big ~150 machines. The problem i've had so far, and keep in mind this is over the last 2-3 weeks.... I get better results with antmine.
With my 4 boxes I can do a steady and predictable 0.1btc with my 4 miners. On here the last few days i'm lucky if i'm getting 0.05.
Am I missing something?
Another question I have is with a machine that finds a block. Does that user get a larger reward or what happens?
I'm aware of the halving, we're working to build experience and knowledge so we can make a very good educated decision on how to move forward after the halving and the potential new hardware.
Kano, we're in canada also and own two smaller data centers, we should chat about a canadian node?
Thanks in advance!
Well why not do 50-50 for 30 days. ½ at kano.is with antpool as back up ½ at antpool with kano.is as back up compare each 30 day shot. long term kano.is has had better results but running 150 machines cost money for manpower and electric power. a 10 day cold streak is more likely to happen here but antpool has had cold streaks. so a 50-50 mix of the two is more likely to smooth variance better and you can at least say you are doing 50% morally correct. I define morally correct as trying to go long term with the game not kill the goose for the golden eggs. after 3x 30 day comparison test you can reevaluate . your deployment. I am smaller then your setup will be even if I fill the solar array with buysolar we are going to do 13 to 16 kwatts which is 60th max with current generation. |
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Newko
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March 17, 2016, 03:26:03 AM |
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So, I mentioned last week I was gonna sell my S7 on eBay bc my elec costs are too high (still making couple bucks/day but worried about the upcoming having). I was hoping to get $700 (less the eBay & PayPal fees), so I'm happy it sold yesterday for $825. (Waiting for payment, so jury is still out on how this is gonna end - it's a longtime buyer with good reviews, so I'm hopeful). I'm still mining here (my miner is johnboy21) until I get paid, so here's hoping we can break this logjam before I disconnect. Gonna go make a chicken omelate for breakfast Well, guess what? I'm still here mining on Kano bc the butthead who won the eBay bid failed to pay. This is the second time in 2 weeks this has happened. I'm starting to think this is a sign from above that I should not sell and I should just hang in and keep mining. What say you, fellas (and gals?) - with apologies to The Clash, "Should I stay or should I sell?" he probably figured out he can buy a new one cheaper.. but yes, if you make money even if its 1$ its worth keeping it plugged in. after the halving, you might have to re-evaluate but you still have a few months. Thanks for the input. I'm making about $3/day (down from $4 a month ago). Problem is, I think the S7 is depreciating more than $3/day, so it's a crap shoot. Darn thing is loud as heck - I may underclock it and reduce fan speed to get noise down a little bit. I'll think on it. If I decide to sell again, I'll offer it here bc eBay seems to be too risky and I'd rather sell it to a Kano miner. |
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March 17, 2016, 03:37:38 AM |
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Hey Guys, i'm kinda new to the game here. I've been playing around with 4 s7's for a couple weeks now. I own an IT company with our own data center so we are kind of running an experiment with these 4 to learn more about pools with multiple machines, how to manage multiple machines etc.
I've read about why to use kano vs antmine and I fully support that. but as we build a business plan to invest in hardware etc to go big ~150 machines. The problem i've had so far, and keep in mind this is over the last 2-3 weeks.... I get better results with antmine.
With my 4 boxes I can do a steady and predictable 0.1btc with my 4 miners. On here the last few days i'm lucky if i'm getting 0.05.
Am I missing something?
Another question I have is with a machine that finds a block. Does that user get a larger reward or what happens?
I'm aware of the halving, we're working to build experience and knowledge so we can make a very good educated decision on how to move forward after the halving and the potential new hardware.
Kano, we're in canada also and own two smaller data centers, we should chat about a canadian node?
Thanks in advance!
I was mining at Anthole for over a year and then switched to Kano to compare earnings. You need to run these earnings comparisons over an extended time like Phil mentioned. At the end of the day, investing in bitcoin long term and mining at Antpool are two polar opposite schools of thought. IMO Bitcoins survival depends on a strong, ethical community and with so many companies in the space making decisions based on profit and not community...we are no better off than we were with central bank fiat paper money. Mine on a small pool and as Kano said, we need to stop buying Bitmain gear. Vote with our dollars and force these bad actors to conform to what is right or we make them irrelevant. |
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Newko
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March 17, 2016, 03:41:48 AM |
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Hey Guys, i'm kinda new to the game here. I've been playing around with 4 s7's for a couple weeks now. I own an IT company with our own data center so we are kind of running an experiment with these 4 to learn more about pools with multiple machines, how to manage multiple machines etc.
I've read about why to use kano vs antmine and I fully support that. but as we build a business plan to invest in hardware etc to go big ~150 machines. The problem i've had so far, and keep in mind this is over the last 2-3 weeks.... I get better results with antmine.
With my 4 boxes I can do a steady and predictable 0.1btc with my 4 miners. On here the last few days i'm lucky if i'm getting 0.05.
Am I missing something?
Another question I have is with a machine that finds a block. Does that user get a larger reward or what happens?
I'm aware of the halving, we're working to build experience and knowledge so we can make a very good educated decision on how to move forward after the halving and the potential new hardware.
Kano, we're in canada also and own two smaller data centers, we should chat about a canadian node?
Thanks in advance!
I was mining at Anthole for over a year and then switched to Kano to compare earnings. You need to run these earnings comparisons over an extended time like Phil mentioned. At the end of the day, investing in bitcoin long term and mining at Antpool are two polar opposite schools of thought. IMO Bitcoins survival depends on a strong, ethical community and with so many companies in the space making decisions based on profit and not community...we are no better off than we were with central bank fiat paper money. Mine on a small pool and as Kano said, we need to stop buying Bitmain gear. Vote with our dollars and force these bad actors to conform to what is right or we make them irrelevant. I wish I did more research before buying my S7 - I didn't realize what a greedy company they were, mining empty blocks and all. Now I wish I had an Avalon 6 instead. Well, it least I won't mine there. |
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kspare
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March 17, 2016, 03:48:40 AM |
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I can tell you one reason why i bought the s7 was because they made it easy. And the easiest part being new to the game was they sold the power supply. I looked at the avalon and while I was new and trying to figure out who was a legit place to buy from, bitmain made it easy.
As I learn more, I may not go that route in the future, but like I said, right now i;m keeping my pool small so I can learn before I go big.
We own an IT company, so this kind of falls right in our laps, we have staff with free cycles that can help manage and maintain, so my costs are very low compared to others. As long as we do it right we could do well!
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