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[nhando]

I just got beat up bad by my electric company!

I was running 300A with 125TH mining power on my 400A service at home.

The electric company called me in and want to put me on commercial rate which works out to be about $.13/KWh.

I shut 40 S5's down and the draw went to roughly 200A to eliminate any "equipment safety concerns".  I need to get rid of them.  
I have to get rid of the rest of my s5's, another 40 of them in May.

That leaves me with a dozen s7's which I have to sell or get hosted elsewhere in July.  

They are watching to see if I use more than the "average" customer in my area with my size home.  They said that should
be no more than 6679 KWh/month which I figure to be about a 9.27 amp continuous draw.

Basically, I am screwed.  At least I bought some time till the halving.  I never did tell them what I was doing, just lots of ''math'.

I hope none of you find yourself in the same situation.

Anyone want some S5's in the United States, make me an offer.  I also have the PSU's and power cables that went with them.

What state do you live in?  Can't you just switch providers?  It doesn't make sense, if they allowed 400A connection to your house, you're allowed to use all of it.  Otherwise they will reject the connection to the transformer.  Most residential transformer doesn't even allow connecting 400AMP from 1 house as typically you will need 500MCM cable which is too big for their connector Bus Bar.  The work around is via using 6 smaller parallel cables.  That was the issue at my house.  Fortunately that transformer was overloaded and overdue to be upgraded so I got lucky and was able to hook up the 500MCM which is a FAT heavy Copper cable to the new transformer.  I had no issues driving most of the 400AMP at 80% which is 320AMP.    DMwardjr have similar configuration and was actually trying to go to 800AMP to 1000AMP for his house.  Just tell them you're running a lot of servers at your house.  Sounds like they're just trying to make more money from you.  

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[TTravis]

Because they can.  They called me into a meeting at their location.  I brought my electrician along.

You are a paying customer, you have a service with them, you are entitled to use that service as long as you pay for it.  You should have brought a lawyer, not an electrician.  They don't get to tell you what you can or can't do on your property, nor can they limit you to an arbitrary average value of those residents around you.  They are stupid to drive away a well paying customer.
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Bad timing on my part.  My daughter graduates law school in May!

[TTravis]

What state do you live in?  Can't you just switch providers?  It doesn't make sense, if they allowed 400A connection to your house, you're allowed to use all of it.  Otherwise they will reject the connection to the transformer.  Most residential transformer doesn't even allow connecting 400AMP from 1 house as typically you will need 500MCM cable which is too big for their connector Bus Bar.  The work around is 6 smaller parallel cables.  That was the issue at my house.  Fortunately that transformer was overloaded and overdue to be upgraded so I got lucky and was able to hook up the 500MCM which is a FAT heavy Copper cable to the new transformer.  I had no issues driving most of the 400AMP at 80% which is 320AMP.    DMwardjr have similar configuration and was actually trying to go to 800AMP to 1000AMP for his house.  Just tell them you're running a lot of servers at your house.  Sounds like they're just trying to make more money from you.  

I am in Indiana, and no, we do not have our pick of power companies like other areas do.

400A service minus 20% safety means 320A useable.  I was just under at 300A.
The meter is rated as 320 amp continuous load.

With the supply cables, I was running safely at 300 amp.

I actually had a 2nd similar meter installed on my property that I wanted to expand into.  It by my driveway.  It is live but not being used.

They put in a new transformer on my property that has plenty of capacity.

They put in newer smart meters but I don't think they are communicating because I am out in the country.

[bitmine49]

any reason why not the s7?

it would be very hard for him to do to the s5/s7 that he did for s3 because the s5/s7 use a read only file system. so once you reboot it, it will get set back to stock

Is this why I can't change the root ssh password? Chinese need their backdoors.

It wont be a backdoor unless you leave your router wide open as well. Still, passwd doesnt work?

Password works but only default. If you change the ssh password (which is a pre-req in my book) it just reverts back to "admin"

Yes - I am a networking/security professional so I build my own firewall, virtual servers... all open source.

[VirosaGITS]

any reason why not the s7?

it would be very hard for him to do to the s5/s7 that he did for s3 because the s5/s7 use a read only file system. so once you reboot it, it will get set back to stock

Is this why I can't change the root ssh password? Chinese need their backdoors.

It wont be a backdoor unless you leave your router wide open as well. Still, passwd doesnt work?

Password works but only default. If you change the ssh password (which is a pre-req in my book) it just reverts back to "admin"

Yes - I am a networking/security professional so I build my own firewall, virtual servers... all open source.

Not Password to login. passwd, to change the password, worked for me. You probably know already, since you're a networking/security professional, but this is how to use passwd;

passwd root
newpass
newpassagain
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/changing-password-of-specific-account-in-linux-commandline/

This revert the password to admin?

[bitmine49]

any reason why not the s7?

it would be very hard for him to do to the s5/s7 that he did for s3 because the s5/s7 use a read only file system. so once you reboot it, it will get set back to stock

Is this why I can't change the root ssh password? Chinese need their backdoors.

It wont be a backdoor unless you leave your router wide open as well. Still, passwd doesnt work?

Password works but only default. If you change the ssh password (which is a pre-req in my book) it just reverts back to "admin"

Yes - I am a networking/security professional so I build my own firewall, virtual servers... all open source.

Not Password to login. passwd, to change the password, worked for me. You probably know already, since you're a networking/security professional, but this is how to use passwd;

passwd root
newpass
newpassagain
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/changing-password-of-specific-account-in-linux-commandline/

This revert the password to admin?

yes it does.

[clgrissom3]

Block by Jays86!

[TTravis]

Time to clean my glasses!  I went to look at the top of the page thinking that the block time might still say 13h.  I look here and see block found.  I go back and it really says 13m.  Pleasant surprise.

Thanks for pulling us out of that one Jays86.

[clgrissom3]

I just got beat up bad by my electric company!

I was running 300A with 125TH mining power on my 400A service at home.

The electric company called me in and want to put me on commercial rate which works out to be about $.13/KWh.

I shut 40 S5's down and the draw went to roughly 200A to eliminate any "equipment safety concerns".  I need to get rid of them. 
I have to get rid of the rest of my s5's, another 40 of them in May.

That leaves me with a dozen s7's which I have to sell or get hosted elsewhere in July. 

They are watching to see if I use more than the "average" customer in my area with my size home.  They said that should
be no more than 6679 KWh/month which I figure to be about a 9.27 amp continuous draw.

Basically, I am screwed.  At least I bought some time till the halving.  I never did tell them what I was doing, just lots of ''math'.

I hope none of you find yourself in the same situation.

Anyone want some S5's in the United States, make me an offer.  I also have the PSU's and power cables that went with them.

Seriously, you are a candidate for hosting your iron at a data center!  You may even find one that can beat your electrical rates!

[TTravis]

Yes, I would say you are right, at least for the s7's.  I bought some time to keep them running till July halving.  Then I will evaluate.

I was paying $.07/KWh after taxex and fees.

[kano]

Wow I've been away for a little while, and come back and check the forum....Damn all this Drama.  Seems Kano needs to go all out CSI on these rogue miners.  Although statistically he could ban me because my lone s7 has never found a block LOL

Fortunately it's not block finding to find this particular problem.

The generalised block finding issue does indeed start around 250 BTC per miner, so it is rather expensive to detect.
I'd guess at that other pool the number was way in excess of that.

In this case it's a LOT lower.

However, after the last lot of payouts and adding more accounts to the list (total 29 now), the total BTC the accounts have been rewarded since they were created is a lot more.
73.88963719 BTC

Since I started putting holds on accounts, I have however held 4.14403224 BTC to subtract from that total
(there is probably also some dust in there, but of course that would be relatively insignificant)

[clgrissom3]

This guy is spending 5 BTC per day for a 10THs rental...He could buy 2 Avalon6's per day with that much BTC!
That is 0.5000 BTC/TH/Day...I hope it's not anyone here on kano...if it is, delete that order ASAP!!

[Legacy2005]

wow. I guess there is scum bags in every sector of life that try and cheat the hardworking for their personal gain.

and here I thought you couldn't cheat in maths.

[clgrissom3]

wow. I guess there is scum bags in every sector of life that try and cheat the hardworking for their personal gain.

and here I thought you couldn't cheat in maths.

People can do crazy stuff sometimes.  I just don't get what their motive was...it just doesn't make sense.  They were not making anything extra by doing this...if anything they were hurting their own bottom line each time they withheld a block.

[Legacy2005]

wow. I guess there is scum bags in every sector of life that try and cheat the hardworking for their personal gain.

and here I thought you couldn't cheat in maths.

People can do crazy stuff sometimes.  I just don't get what their motive was...it just doesn't make sense.  They were not making anything extra by doing this...if anything they were hurting their own bottom line each time they withheld a block.

idk, we can only speculate what motive was. its not like they are going to get on here and admit to being dirty and why they did it. in cases like this this is where you need regulation so they can be prosecuted for siphoning money from the pool.

[cavaliersrus]

This guy is spending 5 BTC per day for a 10THs rental...He could buy 2 Avalon6's per day with that much BTC!
That is 0.5000 BTC/TH/Day...I hope it's not anyone here on kano...if it is, delete that order ASAP!!

maybe he is mining a altcoin that just started and is speculating a spike in price once more people mine the coin but that price is crazy

[Legacy2005]

This guy is spending 5 BTC per day for a 10THs rental...He could buy 2 Avalon6's per day with that much BTC!
That is 0.5000 BTC/TH/Day...I hope it's not anyone here on kano...if it is, delete that order ASAP!!

maybe he is mining a altcoin that just started and is speculating a spike in price once more people mine the coin but that price is crazy

what I don't get is why don't they just do a fixed order. no reason to spend .5 when you can spend .003 ish

[cavaliersrus]

This guy is spending 5 BTC per day for a 10THs rental...He could buy 2 Avalon6's per day with that much BTC!
That is 0.5000 BTC/TH/Day...I hope it's not anyone here on kano...if it is, delete that order ASAP!!

maybe he is mining a altcoin that just started and is speculating a spike in price once more people mine the coin but that price is crazy

what I don't get is why don't they just do a fixed order. no reason to spend .5 when you can spend .003 ish

i have no idea what fixed does vs standard cause im new to nicehash im renting right now on there vs my normal mining rig rental site where i rent

[clgrissom3]

Block by JoeInAsia with 5.7THs!  You get on the Acclaim Board with your first kano block!

Edit:  It's a nice fat block with lots of fees!

[Legacy2005]

This guy is spending 5 BTC per day for a 10THs rental...He could buy 2 Avalon6's per day with that much BTC!
That is 0.5000 BTC/TH/Day...I hope it's not anyone here on kano...if it is, delete that order ASAP!!

maybe he is mining a altcoin that just started and is speculating a spike in price once more people mine the coin but that price is crazy

what I don't get is why don't they just do a fixed order. no reason to spend .5 when you can spend .003 ish

i have no idea what fixed does vs standard cause im new to nicehash im renting right now on there vs my normal mining rig rental site where i rent

fixed is 1 price from start the finish. so if you start the order and it says you pay .0034 you pay that.

where as standard you can raise and lower the price depending on the current market. so you could start your order at .0031. if it sits around and doesn't start you can raise it. so some people start off at current value say .0038 and slowly lower and ride out the lower price till they drop off then raise it again. so you can turn a 24hr rental into 30ish if you play the rise/lower game correct.