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[clgrissom3]

What happened? Blockchain said that block was Kano's now it says Antpool?

Block 406198 is Antpool

Block 406197 is Kano with already 2 confirms

It is now at 6 confirms but it does say Antpool on both Blocktrail and Blockchain...mmmm.  Maybe Antpool is off on their own fork with this one!

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[not.you]

will have to wait to see how it pans out. we are showing 6 now. but antpool keeps building off their own block. would serve them right to have all of them ripped their greedy paws.

The kano block definitely orphaned despite what the kano webpage shows.

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/block/0000000000000000033f1b617ad5c03cec10a6bcc19ce0778e8d75fdbf1ed152

https://blockchain.info/block-index/1102810/0000000000000000033f1b617ad5c03cec10a6bcc19ce0778e8d75fdbf1ed152

Even the link on the kano web page goes to the antpool block. 

[zahzin]

Any way for anyone to customize a full bitcoin node so all who would wish could patch their own core full node with patches that would not propagate this type of antshit block hijacking..

[Legacy2005]

if this is a fork would be good to know so we can get off the bad path and not lose time mining for 0.

[kako13]

randybtc had the last orphan here as well?  

[utbeauchamp]

It is more than likely an orphan. Kano's website is keeping to what Blockchain is reporting in regards to time since last block and number of confirms.

When Kano wakes up I am sure he will give let us know what happened, but it is absolute bulls**t that we got orphaned when we relayed first.

[zahzin]

The antpool needs to change its ways or suffer a horrible faith..

[xZork]

The antpool needs to change its ways or suffer a horrible faith..

As long as they keep making hardware and people keep adding to their pool their is nothing one can really do other than spread the word.

[zahzin]

The antpool needs to change its ways or suffer a horrible faith..

As long as they keep making hardware and people keep adding to their pool their is nothing one can really do other than spread the word.

So sad but so true I guess..

We need some chinese anti-ant propaganda..

[Legacy2005]

Its sad but people see 30+ blocks a day and go there thinking size matters.

[Mikestang]

If you own a bitmain S5/S7 that you bough brand new from bitmain and you are mining with it then you have absolutely ZERO place to complain about antpool and their empty blocks - you are part of the problem

What we need is a solid company to manufacture and put out a super efficient miner lineup and give Bitmain a run for their money.  Competition is what will put them in their place.

Well that's easy, it exists already and is called Caanan Creative and they have a miner called the Avalon 6 that is just as efficient as the S7, is quieter and cooler, and costs basically the same.

Don't blame the manufacturers, blame the people that support them.  Competition exists, people vote with their wallets.  Sadly most people make decisions solely based on their wallets as well.

If you are looking for a quality miner that is faster and cheaper than the S7 who would you expect to be able to undercut a massive Chinese company already producing a cheap product (cheap in cost and fit/feel)?  That's about as low operating costs as you can come.

[utbeauchamp]

What we need is a solid company to manufacture and put out a super efficient miner lineup and give Bitmain a run for their money.  Competition is what will put them in their place.

Well that's easy, it exists already and is called Caanan Creative and they have a miner called the Avalon 6 that is just as efficient as the S7, is quieter and cooler, and costs basically the same.

Don't blame the manufacturers, blame the people that support them.  Competition exists, people vote with their wallets.

If you are looking for a quality miner that is faster and cheaper than the S7 who would you expect to be able to undercut a massive Chinese company?  That's about as low operating costs as you can come.

Totally agree and I just purchased an A6, but it is way easier to get an S7 than an A6. I also bought an A6 at a significant premium versus the S7 (with current coupon push).

I am all about voting with your wallet, but I made a decision that I would sacrifice ROI for principle and that isn't an option for large mining operations.

[Mikestang]

but it is way easier to get an S7 than an A6

What kind of excuse is that?  I don't even understand the attempted reasoning, other than to fool one's self that they made "the only decision they could".

Why is it easier to click "add to cart" on one page vs. the other? e.g.

http://holybitcoin.com/product/avalon-6-3500-ghs-sha256-bitcoin-miner/ vs http://holybitcoin.com/product/bitmain-antminer-s7/

I don't see how one is easier.

[yochdog]

What we need is a solid company to manufacture and put out a super efficient miner lineup and give Bitmain a run for their money.  Competition is what will put them in their place.

Well that's easy, it exists already and is called Caanan Creative and they have a miner called the Avalon 6 that is just as efficient as the S7, is quieter and cooler, and costs basically the same.

Don't blame the manufacturers, blame the people that support them.  Competition exists, people vote with their wallets.

If you are looking for a quality miner that is faster and cheaper than the S7 who would you expect to be able to undercut a massive Chinese company?  That's about as low operating costs as you can come.

Totally agree and I just purchased an A6, but it is way easier to get an S7 than an A6. I also bought an A6 at a significant premium versus the S7 (with current coupon push).

I am all about voting with your wallet, but I made a decision that I would sacrifice ROI for principle and that isn't an option for large mining operations.

S7 is dogshit when it comes to reliability, and it consumes more power than they advertise.  Bitmain is complete shit, take it from someone who owns hundreds and hundreds of their machines.  Do yourself a favor and buy Avalon's.  Superior in every way. 

[VRobb]

A Hole pool karma
Getting worse and worse each day
Must lose face faster

[sorry2xs]

well block 406197 has 21 confirmations IMO it belongs to kano.is

[Sierra8561]

Looks like some news on 14nm miners today. Looks like June for BW. Also explains the difficulty increases we've seen, due to large customer orders already mining.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429033.0

[firetreeactual]

Well, I do understand the feeling about Bitmain. I'm a small miner...when I'm maxed out on power, I'll be running a little over 16Th. I just ordered 2 S7s from Bitmain, Batch 16 (one fan). I would have preferred to go with Avalon, but logistically it didn't make sense in my specific situation. They cost twice as much (as what I had to pay Bitmain with a coupon), and produce a full Th less than the S7; yes, it's on 1050 watts v. 1300w, but even 1050w basically takes a full 20A 120v circuit, unless you piggyback two S3s to get another .9Th. So...,you've got 4.6Th from the circuit. With an S7, you can run one S3 with it, and get around 5.1Th. Those were the factors I had to look at, since I've got just four 20A circuits to work with. When Avalon is able to put out a unit that is just a bit heftier, and it made economic sense (or an S7 bites the dust), I'll move over.

[sorry2xs]

preorders,does anyone remember 500%BFL

[sorry2xs]

Well, I do understand the feeling about Bitmain. I'm a small miner...when I'm maxed out on power, I'll be running a little over 16Th. I just ordered 2 S7s from Bitmain, Batch 16 (one fan). I would have preferred to go with Avalon, but logistically it didn't make sense in my specific situation. They cost twice as much (as what I had to pay Bitmain with a coupon), and produce a full Th less than the S7; yes, it's on 1050 watts v. 1300w, but even 1050w basically takes a full 20A 120v circuit, unless you piggyback two S3s to get another .9Th. So...,you've got 4.6Th from the circuit. With an S7, you can run one S3 with it, and get around 5.1Th. Those were the factors I had to look at, since I've got just four 20A circuits to work with. When Avalon is able to put out a unit that is just a bit heftier, and it made economic sense (or an S7 bites the dust), I'll move over.

well 1000 watts @ 120 volts is 9 amps,also Bitmain specs for the S7 any batch is for an ambient temp of 25 degrees C. that is a hard target to meet anywhere south of the mason-nixon line
Edit: that's 77 Fahrenheit