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has the bad luck streak also afflicted the solo pool? (or maybe I should do my research ...)

Offtopic for this thread, but no, not particularly.

[thedreamer]

Damn guys..

I'm sorry I made a funny jab at kano about the changes affecting the pool luck.

[SergES]

When was lucky no one is blamed, and now need to find culprit.

[Dmc123dmc]

A little bad luck and the room fills with aggression. Come on guys, lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya..... maybe around some rubber chickens!

[Mikestang]

What is the use of repeating something thats been answered by the person it was asked in the first place aside from the pleasure in trolling?
You signature campaign troll.

I post with logic and provide a thought-out response; you posts bullshit and call people names.  Hmm....

You also can't seem to figure out how to quote more than one post in a single response.

You're funny. 

[xstr8guy]

At some point don't we have to cut our losses and simply assume that there's something wrong with the pool and bail? I've already shutdown my less efficient miners because of this bad luck.

I'd hate to lose my shares that I've built up during this time but I simply can't run my gear with no revenue incoming. I hate to think that I can't support small pools but the reality is... I can't justify (under any circumstances) an entire week without finding a block. 

[loshia]

At some point don't we have to cut our losses and simply assume that there's something wrong with the pool and bail? I've already shutdown my less efficient miners because of this bad luck.

I'd hate to lose my shares that I've built up during this time but I simply can't run my gear with no revenue incoming. I hate to think that I can't support small pools but the reality is... I can't justify (under any circumstances) an entire week without finding a block.  

Calm down dude.
Mining at particular pull is a matter of trust for me personally.
Nothing is wrong with the pool!
Luck is a luck and that is all.
Have in mind that so called bigger pools are not immuned to bad luck also...
It is your decision after all but if you trust kano I suggest to stay here. If you wanna change avoid Chinese pools at any cost..
What about the good luck before that block?
In avarege in  long term assuming that BTC diff stays almost same you should be EVEN

All - Last 281 Blocks   96.63%   96.25%   0.2687   103.90%
The above means that if you were mining here from day one you would made 3.9-0.9 pool fee extra
Sounds exelenT for me what about you?

Ps: there was very nice graph from organofcorti comparing pools luck and surprisingly kano pool beat them all especially BIGEST Chinese pools
Look for it if you want

[pekatete]

I post with logic and provide a thought-out response; you posts bullshit and call people names.  Hmm....

You also can't seem to figure out how to quote more than one post in a single response.

You're funny. 

You post nonsense for the simple and selfish persuits of your signature campaign. On a good day I'd call that signature campaign trolling, but I'd be feeding the troll in you to troll even more. I call you what I perceive you to be from your posts, and you are a pathetic troll (and so what if I can't quote more than one post, if at all ... it's a troll's toolkit).

[WBF1]

At some point don't we have to cut our losses and simply assume that there's something wrong with the pool and bail? I've already shutdown my less efficient miners because of this bad luck.

I'd hate to lose my shares that I've built up during this time but I simply can't run my gear with no revenue incoming. I hate to think that I can't support small pools but the reality is... I can't justify (under any circumstances) an entire week without finding a block.  

I measure from Monday to Sunday. Last week we had approximately 50% coins mined than expected. We're just about 50% through this week. If my basic math serves me right, that means I'm still at 100% for the past week and a half. No reason to flip the ejector switch yet.

[kano]

Yet another reason why not to mine on Eligius.

They hide the truth.

My recent post about the facts about their payout system got deleted:

...
Thank for the great pool, i feel like im getting double profit yesterday... maybe this incident makes lot of miner mining wrong fork and so for us it seem difficulty get halved  

Your maximum payout on CPPSRB is PPS - no more.

yes, but i do feel that i get more from usual payment. maybe from transaction fee

CPPSRB pays you a maximum of 100% PPS - no more - but usually less.

To put it in the simplest terms:
Don't believe wizkid057 or Luke-jr, one likes to hide the truth and the other lies regularly.

Their pool has bad luck caused by them and their software.

You must of course remember that the Luck statistic is NOT only random block finding luck but also includes the pool latency and related problems, which  Eligius has, that I have proven before with many repeated simple tests.

[philipma1957]

At some point don't we have to cut our losses and simply assume that there's something wrong with the pool and bail? I've already shutdown my less efficient miners because of this bad luck.

I'd hate to lose my shares that I've built up during this time but I simply can't run my gear with no revenue incoming. I hate to think that I can't support small pools but the reality is... I can't justify (under any circumstances) an entire week without finding a block.  

I have supported this pool on and off.  I Have supported solo.ckpool pretty much on.
variance or luck can suck bigtime.
But for you guys to complain just look below 12 blocks in a row all good times.  So you caught a shit one a 99% cdf  it happens  what about the 12 good ones here.

281   365637   bitminerpro_S3R.2059A0C3EB62 >>> 25.08284573   2015-07-17 01:26:22+00   Matured   13,415,052,999   26.26%   0.231
280   365602   melancon_004 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.33853126   2015-07-16 19:32:15+00   Matured   40,757,569,911   79.80%   0.550
279   365509   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.07354634   2015-07-16 01:55:45+00   Matured   7,657,237,878   14.99%   0.139
278   365491   melancon_022 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.16632509   2015-07-15 22:33:56+00   Matured   32,902,151,742   64.42%   0.475
277   365383   canaan.dqe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.12963832   2015-07-15 07:53:32+00   Matured   49,003,014,038   95.94%   0.617
276   365257   BTCWoman.3Jo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.13419375   2015-07-14 09:29:50+00   Matured   11,465,257,986   22.45%   0.201
275   365224   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.47074934   2015-07-14 04:05:35+00   Matured   7,315,108,528   14.32%   0.133
274   365204   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.16541863   2015-07-14 00:42:52+00   Matured   36,505,299,231   71.47%   0.511
273   365089   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.09490192   2015-07-13 07:47:38+00   Matured   15,464,398,776   30.28%   0.261
272   365061   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.18186700   2015-07-13 00:38:41+00   Matured   23,959,388,224   46.91%   0.374
271   365003   aluz.18 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26.16233241   2015-07-12 14:01:22+00   Matured   15,866,544,419   31.06%   0.267
270   364961   melancon_020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.25408248   2015-07-12 07:24:10+00   Matured   16,479,406,100   32.26%   0.276

I have not mined here in a while  and I am being crushed at mmpool.org at this time.  But I will send 250th here for a bit.

[PPOC]

Yet another reason why not to mine on Eligius.

They hide the truth.

My recent post about the facts about their payout system got deleted:

...
Thank for the great pool, i feel like im getting double profit yesterday... maybe this incident makes lot of miner mining wrong fork and so for us it seem difficulty get halved  

Your maximum payout on CPPSRB is PPS - no more.

yes, but i do feel that i get more from usual payment. maybe from transaction fee

CPPSRB pays you a maximum of 100% PPS - no more - but usually less.

To put it in the simplest terms:
Don't believe wizkid057 or Luke-jr, one likes to hide the truth and the other lies regularly.

Their pool has bad luck caused by them and their software.

You must of course remember that the Luck statistic is NOT only random block finding luck but also includes the pool latency and related problems, which  Eligius has, that I have proven before with many repeated simple tests.

So now that we crossed the 500% percent mark, I think that means shares will be dropping off on the back end, so only the last 500% when a block is hit will be paid, correct?

[PPOC]

At some point don't we have to cut our losses and simply assume that there's something wrong with the pool and bail? I've already shutdown my less efficient miners because of this bad luck.

I'd hate to lose my shares that I've built up during this time but I simply can't run my gear with no revenue incoming. I hate to think that I can't support small pools but the reality is... I can't justify (under any circumstances) an entire week without finding a block.  

I have supported this pool on and off.  I Have supported solo.ckpool pretty much on.
variance or luck can suck bigtime.
But for you guys to complain just look below 12 blocks in a row all good times.  So you caught a shit one a 99% cdf  it happens  what about the 12 good ones here.

281   365637   bitminerpro_S3R.2059A0C3EB62 >>> 25.08284573   2015-07-17 01:26:22+00   Matured   13,415,052,999   26.26%   0.231
280   365602   melancon_004 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.33853126   2015-07-16 19:32:15+00   Matured   40,757,569,911   79.80%   0.550
279   365509   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.07354634   2015-07-16 01:55:45+00   Matured   7,657,237,878   14.99%   0.139
278   365491   melancon_022 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.16632509   2015-07-15 22:33:56+00   Matured   32,902,151,742   64.42%   0.475
277   365383   canaan.dqe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.12963832   2015-07-15 07:53:32+00   Matured   49,003,014,038   95.94%   0.617
276   365257   BTCWoman.3Jo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.13419375   2015-07-14 09:29:50+00   Matured   11,465,257,986   22.45%   0.201
275   365224   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.47074934   2015-07-14 04:05:35+00   Matured   7,315,108,528   14.32%   0.133
274   365204   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.16541863   2015-07-14 00:42:52+00   Matured   36,505,299,231   71.47%   0.511
273   365089   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.09490192   2015-07-13 07:47:38+00   Matured   15,464,398,776   30.28%   0.261
272   365061   canaan.dq6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.18186700   2015-07-13 00:38:41+00   Matured   23,959,388,224   46.91%   0.374
271   365003   aluz.18 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26.16233241   2015-07-12 14:01:22+00   Matured   15,866,544,419   31.06%   0.267
270   364961   melancon_020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25.25408248   2015-07-12 07:24:10+00   Matured   16,479,406,100   32.26%   0.276

I have not mined here in a while  and I am being crushed at mmpool.org at this time.  But I will send 250th here for a bit.

Thanks for the 250+. hope that helps us get over this killer block. Slush killed a block that was over 900% about 8 hours ago and now they are on to another almost 200% block so far, again my comments that last 2 days now very few blocks outside china. very odd. Ghash also had a 2 day block they just hit, only ones doing well are the China pools. Hmmmm

[WBF1]

Yet another reason why not to mine on Eligius.

They hide the truth.

My recent post about the facts about their payout system got deleted:

...
Thank for the great pool, i feel like im getting double profit yesterday... maybe this incident makes lot of miner mining wrong fork and so for us it seem difficulty get halved  

Your maximum payout on CPPSRB is PPS - no more.

yes, but i do feel that i get more from usual payment. maybe from transaction fee

CPPSRB pays you a maximum of 100% PPS - no more - but usually less.

To put it in the simplest terms:
Don't believe wizkid057 or Luke-jr, one likes to hide the truth and the other lies regularly.

Their pool has bad luck caused by them and their software.

You must of course remember that the Luck statistic is NOT only random block finding luck but also includes the pool latency and related problems, which  Eligius has, that I have proven before with many repeated simple tests.

So now that we crossed the 500% percent mark, I think that means shares will be dropping off on the back end, so only the last 500% when a block is hit will be paid, correct?

My understanding is that it functions Iike a 500% "wide" sliding window. Your portion of any payout is based on data within that 500% wide window. This would mean that the window now includes only work on this block and because it has been more than 500% since the last block, data begins to be discarded when calculating payouts. The discarded data is what is before the current 500% window and after the last payout... About an 8.6% "wide" window of data that is now to be discarded at the time of this post (508.6% on current block).

Can someone more knowledgeable validate my understanding, or tear it to shreds?

[kano]

...
My understanding is that it functions Iike a 500% "wide" sliding window. Your portion of any payout is based on data within that 500% wide window. This would mean that the window now includes only work on this block and because it has been more than 500% since the last block, data begins to be discarded when calculating payouts. The discarded data is what is before the current 500% window and after the last payout... About an 8.6% "wide" window of data that is now to be discarded at the time of this post (508.6% on current block).

Can someone more knowledgeable validate my understanding, or tear it to shreds?

Yes correct.
Unpaid shifts (of shares) are now being "effectively" thrown off the end.

I updated the web site Help->Payouts not long ago also to explain it a little better.
https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

[philipma1957]

Yet another reason why not to mine on Eligius.

They hide the truth.

My recent post about the facts about their payout system got deleted:

...
Thank for the great pool, i feel like im getting double profit yesterday... maybe this incident makes lot of miner mining wrong fork and so for us it seem difficulty get halved  

Your maximum payout on CPPSRB is PPS - no more.

yes, but i do feel that i get more from usual payment. maybe from transaction fee

CPPSRB pays you a maximum of 100% PPS - no more - but usually less.

To put it in the simplest terms:
Don't believe wizkid057 or Luke-jr, one likes to hide the truth and the other lies regularly.

Their pool has bad luck caused by them and their software.

You must of course remember that the Luck statistic is NOT only random block finding luck but also includes the pool latency and related problems, which  Eligius has, that I have proven before with many repeated simple tests.

So now that we crossed the 500% percent mark, I think that means shares will be dropping off on the back end, so only the last 500% when a block is hit will be paid, correct?

My understanding is that it functions Iike a 500% "wide" sliding window. Your portion of any payout is based on data within that 500% wide window. This would mean that the window now includes only work on this block and because it has been more than 500% since the last block, data begins to be discarded when calculating payouts. The discarded data is what is before the current 500% window and after the last payout... About an 8.6% "wide" window of data that is now to be discarded at the time of this post (508.6% on current block).

Can someone more knowledgeable validate my understanding, or tear it to shreds?

To add just  a bit more the 500% mark is larger then most pools to avoid this problem.  Kano's pool very rarely gets to this point of dropping shares off the backend. This is one of the reasons I still use his pool on and off.

I think he has past 500% not more then 3 of 282 blocks but my memory is meh.  The wide 500% numbers allows for me or anyone to drop 250th in for 5 shifts in a cold streak in an effort to break the block.  If The block remains unbroken I could still get some btc in the following blocks made as I won't fall off the back end for 5 or 6 days.

[tlhIlwI]

Sadly, I just had a SP20 die after a power outage, so that's 1.45T less from here 

I'm working on it now, but it doesn't look promising.  I can get it to SD boot, but only inside an air conditioned environment.  As soon as I put it next to the other miners (~30C) it will not boot.

[philipma1957]

Sadly, I just had a SP20 die after a power outage, so that's 1.45T less from here 

I'm working on it now, but it doesn't look promising.  I can get it to SD boot, but only inside an air conditioned environment.  As soon as I put it next to the other miners (~30C) it will not boot.

That sucks.  Try clocking it lower.  It may work.

[WBF1]

Sadly, I just had a SP20 die after a power outage, so that's 1.45T less from here 

I'm working on it now, but it doesn't look promising.  I can get it to SD boot, but only inside an air conditioned environment.  As soon as I put it next to the other miners (~30C) it will not boot.

That sucks.  Try clocking it lower.  It may work.

I had an ASIC I had to disable on a SP20E recently. Lots of issues cropping up with these little miners lately. So much for the  "professional" and "carrier grade" designations...

[tlhIlwI]

This will be my last post on this since this is drifting off topic.  Anyway...

I have the SP20 running again, sort of.  I can always get it to start perfectly indoors, but it will not start as expected in the garage.  Through trial and error I've figured out how to get it to boot when in the garage.  I have to bring the miner inside to an air conditioned environment, then I run a hair dryer into the air intake to warm things up a bit (about 30-60 seconds).  After that I quickly move it to the garage, and plug it in.  It starts right up.  I've replicated the result three times now. 

I discovered this after testing my original hypothesis that the problem was thermal related (the cold air in the house letting it start).  To test that hypothesis, while inside the house I warmed up the miner with a hair dryer to see if it would fail to start due to heat.  It still started fine which meant it wasn't the cold air that was letting it start.  Just after that it started fine in the garage also, but a few minutes later it no longer would.  Nothing would bring it back to life except the hair dryer inside the house, and that consistently brought it back to life.  I have no idea how long that ritual will continue to work until it is done for completely.  So it's not temperature... humidity maybe?

Now if only that ritual would help us crack this block!...