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[baybayfish]

I am a newbie to bitcoin mining. I got a S9 miner. Let me make my question simple for Kano pool.

I used Antpool for about two weeks. I got average 0.0028 BTC per day from Antpool, with average 14TH/s. Antpool pays everyday.

If I switch to Kano pool with average 14TH/s, do you think I can get better than 0.0028 BTC per day? Maybe Kano cannot pay for this much every day, but on average, from a week/month perspective, do you think better than 0.0028 BTC/14TH per day average is achievable for Kano pool? This is not asking for guarantee, but just for a general ballpark estimation and expectation.

Thanks.

[nazzer]

I am a newbie to bitcoin mining. I got a S9 miner. Let me make my question simple for Kano pool.

I used Antpool for about two weeks. I got average 0.0028 BTC per day from Antpool, with average 14TH/s. Antpool pays everyday.

If I switch to Kano pool with average 14TH/s, do you think I can get better than 0.0028 BTC per day? Maybe Kano cannot pay for this much every day, but on average, from a week/month perspective, do you think better than 0.0028 BTC/14TH per day average is achievable for Kano pool? This is not asking for guarantee, but just for a general ballpark estimation and expectation.

Thanks.

On average you'll be paid better - Antpool does not pay transaction fees to miners; on that basis you've pretty much been losing out at least 20 - 40% BTC per day. So you're probably losing out 0.0005 BTC/day on average just by mining on Antpool.

[MattMell]

I am a newbie to bitcoin mining. I got a S9 miner. Let me make my question simple for Kano pool.

I used Antpool for about two weeks. I got average 0.0028 BTC per day from Antpool, with average 14TH/s. Antpool pays everyday.

If I switch to Kano pool with average 14TH/s, do you think I can get better than 0.0028 BTC per day? Maybe Kano cannot pay for this much every day, but on average, from a week/month perspective, do you think better than 0.0028 BTC/14TH per day average is achievable for Kano pool? This is not asking for guarantee, but just for a general ballpark estimation and expectation.

Thanks.

The answer is yes you will get more at kano pool...... BUT it depends over how long you evaluate and when you evaluate.
If your period of evaluation is short then you may earn a lot less or a lot more. The longer the period of evaluation gets the higher the certainty that you will earn more.

If you have to get a payout every 2/3 days then PPLNS is maybe not the reward method you should look at even though your reward over a longer period is higher.

Sorry, I know there are a lot of 'to long/shots' but all is probabilities and no one can guarantee - as you know.

Edit: A good indication may be what others earned relative to you the last month or two but again, history is no guarantee of future.
 

[subie]

Hi kano,

i have seen 2 unconfirmed transactions on my btc address, and now its not there any more, it did not add to the No. Transactions, what could have happened? the amount is about 0.0007xx, is it too small?

THanks kano!

[baybayfish]

Thank you Matt and Nazzer. Good answers!
Then I will stick with Kano pool for long term. Happy to know I made the right choice.

[nazzer]

SG and NYA nodes went offline ... SG is still down

[kano]

SG and NYA nodes went offline ... SG is still down

NYA is fine.
SG network went off at 08:13 for a few minutes but came back on again.
But it's just gone off again ...

It's come back to life the 2nd time (08:37) before the provider answered by support request.
Hopefully it'll stay that way

[MattMell]

Thank you Matt and Nazzer. Good answers!
Then I will stick with Kano pool for long term. Happy to know I made the right choice.

You are welcome. I hope you/we have some good luck!

[MattMell]

Just my luck: the first block I work on at Kano's is like this.

Well, here is to hoping for better luck next time.

At least you are getting the 5d ramp up out of the way

[MattMell]

For the current difficulty period the network is through ~35% of blocks in 31% target period 

At current rate next difficulty estimate :  2 145 502 673 245    11.10%    18/01/13 14:38

[HawkmasterUK]

Thank you for the kind welcomes to the pool, MDude77, RifleMan74,NotFuzzyWarm, Bit2255,Maus44 WazTim.

[Waztim]

We Mine On,
Determined and Strong,
Anime Princesses,
and dancing a jig,
We Mine On,
With Kano-San

Come On Block!!

[tinygekkoscienceminer]

Hi All,

I am new to mining.   I got new 2pac gekkoscience USB miner.   I am using cgminer software.    I am pointed to kano pool and running for 20 hours or so with for past two days .  This is purely hobby.  

My cgminer says…

5s:13.21G 1m:15.72G 5m:15.58G 15m:15.85G avg:16.04Gh/s
 A:68068  R:0  HW:0  WU:224.1/m
 Connected to stratum.kano.is diff 442 with stratum as user tinygekkoscienceminer.worker1
 Block: 2f5748f1...  Diff:1.93T  Started: [13:04:55.952]  Best share: 40.6K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 USB management Pool management Settings Display options Quit
 0: BSD 10014346: COMPAC-2 150.00MHz HW:0 | 13.35G / 16.04Gh/s WU:224.1/m

[2018-01-05 13:04:55.952] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block at height 502693
[2018-01-05 13:05:56.876] Accepted 179ba6b3 Diff 2.78K/442 BSD 0
[2018-01-05 13:10:12.572] Accepted 21c9935e Diff 1.94K/442 BSD 0

In my worker in kano pool web site work says …

Work Diff: 442
Last Share: 11s
Shares: 601
Diff: 265,642
:Share Rate: 18.37GHs
<<Elapsed: 10m 20s
:Invalid: 3.149 %
Stale: 442/1
Dup: 0/0
Hi 8196/2
Rej 0/0
Block %: 0.000%
Hash Rate: 19.10GHs

What are above parameters means, when i can pay out (years)?

[kano]

...
... and there's a little table I post every so often about that
Coz, it's like rolling a dice, you of course expect to get a 6, on average, every 6 rolls, but of course you don't get exactly that.
Sometimes you might get two 6's, or no 6's, or three 6's - that's 'chaos' coming into it and giving you 'random' results - as long as the dice isn't weighted

So the table, in this case, is a table of CDF probabilities as follows:

Code:

 0.39346934028737   50.000%  1 in 1.6
 0.63212055882856  100.000%  1 in 2.7
 0.77686983985157  150.000%  1 in 4.5
 0.86466471676339  200.000%  1 in 7.4
 0.95021293163214  300.000%  1 in 20.1
 0.98168436111127  400.000%  1 in 54.6
 0.99326205300091  500.000%  1 in 148.4
 0.99752124782333  600.000%  1 in 403.4
 0.99872735771441  666.666%  1 in 785.8
 0.99908811803445  700.000%  1 in 1096.6
 0.99966453737210  800.000%  1 in 2981.0
 0.99987659019591  900.000%  1 in 8103.1

... and what this table says, e.g. for the 5th line, you expect, on average, over time, that 1 in 20.1 blocks we find will be over 300%

i.e. the most important part to understand in that, is that it's ok to get long blocks every so often, and that table even says, on average, how often to expect them, as long as the long term average is still close to 100%

Short term, the averages go up and down dramatically, but long term it should get closer and closer to 100% average.

... see the Pool->Blocks web page

Just my luck: the first block I work on at Kano's is like this.

Well, here is to hoping for better luck next time.

You didn't spot the "1 in 4.5" blocks are over 150% ?
We're only at 164% at the moment - far from being a long block

[Waztim]

Hi All,

I am new to mining.   I got new 2pac gekkoscience USB miner.   I am using cgminer software.    I am pointed to kano pool and running for 20 hours or so with for past two days .  This is purely hobby.  

My cgminer says…

5s:13.21G 1m:15.72G 5m:15.58G 15m:15.85G avg:16.04Gh/s
 A:68068  R:0  HW:0  WU:224.1/m
 Connected to stratum.kano.is diff 442 with stratum as user tinygekkoscienceminer.worker1
 Block: 2f5748f1...  Diff:1.93T  Started: [13:04:55.952]  Best share: 40.6K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 USB management Pool management Settings Display options Quit
 0: BSD 10014346: COMPAC-2 150.00MHz HW:0 | 13.35G / 16.04Gh/s WU:224.1/m

[2018-01-05 13:04:55.952] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block at height 502693
[2018-01-05 13:05:56.876] Accepted 179ba6b3 Diff 2.78K/442 BSD 0
[2018-01-05 13:10:12.572] Accepted 21c9935e Diff 1.94K/442 BSD 0

In my worker in kano pool web site work says …

Work Diff: 442
Last Share: 11s
Shares: 601
Diff: 265,642
:Share Rate: 18.37GHs
<<Elapsed: 10m 20s
:Invalid: 3.149 %
Stale: 442/1
Dup: 0/0
Hi 8196/2
Rej 0/0
Block %: 0.000%
Hash Rate: 19.10GHs

What are above parameters means, when i can pay out (years)?

Seriously? Not trying to make you feel bad but that is so obsolete, you will spend more in power consumption than you could ever possibly return in a Bitcoin payout. Your payout will be in about a buzillion years. Go and buy a used Canaan 741 miner or a Antpoo S7, then you can "hobby mine", right now you are wasting your time and more importantly, your money. No hard feelings, just the plain facts.

[dkincaid]

Quick question for you Kano. On the rewards page the date format is strange (e.g. 31/Dec 04:29). It didn't used to be like that. The last time I copy and pasted, back in August I think, it was like 8/25/2017 8:22:00. The new format is difficult to get into a spreadsheet. Is it something on my end doing that or was it changed in the last few months in one of your updates? Would it be possible to go back to a more standard format?

Also, is the rewards data available through the API?

The web site never used the messed up american date format in any of the tables

The display format is based on space available, so often year isn't included.

There's no API for rewards (yet)

The biggest problem is the lack of a year. I stretch my browser out to full screen width and still no year. It's a minor thing and your time is better spent on more important things. I'll figure out how to work around it.

[Vertflyer]

You didn't spot the "1 in 4.5" blocks are over 150% ?
We're only at 164% at the moment - far from being a long block

Yup, and considering our last block was 18.6%, the combined % of the last block and this coming block is still under 2-ND.

[clgrissom3]

Quick question for you Kano. On the rewards page the date format is strange (e.g. 31/Dec 04:29). It didn't used to be like that. The last time I copy and pasted, back in August I think, it was like 8/25/2017 8:22:00. The new format is difficult to get into a spreadsheet. Is it something on my end doing that or was it changed in the last few months in one of your updates? Would it be possible to go back to a more standard format?

Also, is the rewards data available through the API?

The web site never used the messed up american date format in any of the tables

The display format is based on space available, so often year isn't included.

There's no API for rewards (yet)

The biggest problem is the lack of a year. I stretch my browser out to full screen width and still no year. It's a minor thing and your time is better spent on more important things. I'll figure out how to work around it.

I just checked pasting the new format into my excel spreadsheet and it worked just fine.  Two keys to get it to work right: 1) set the date format the way you like it in Excel...format all columns they way you need them.  2) Paste as text only.  It will fill in everything perfectly every time.

EDIT:  I've been using my spreadsheet since 2015 nonstop

[tmfnj]

Kano/CK:
I am new to mining so please forgive my ignorance.
After a ton of research, I decided that KanoPool is my pool of choice.
So I started out by connecting a single Antminer S9 to KanoPool for a few days and earned about 0.0057 BTC.
When I log in to KanoPool site, it shows the correct payout address and a couple of days later, I could see a small balance on my Coinspace account... so it seemed like it's all good.
BUT then, a few more days later, my coinspace account shows zero balance and zero history.
I also went to blockchain.info and typed in my wallet address and it shows no history.
So how do I figure out what happened here?   Is there a place on KanoPool site where I can look up the transaction ID to confirm that the payment was actually sent?
I'd like to understand this before I buy a bunch more miners and connect them to the pool.
Cheers!

[VRobb]

Payment was sent, but hasn't been confirmed yet so it's in limbo at the moment.  Soon enough it'll get confirmed and you'll be able to use it.
Cheers, and Mine On!  

(and only kanosan is here, not the other guy....!)