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June 25, 2015, 03:29:35 AM
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I am still on 346 Linux drivers and I set my clock and mem speeds in .nvidia-settings.rc as an attribute.  My xorg.conf file enables all gpus in the system as well as coolbits.

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June 25, 2015, 05:16:51 AM
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Agh, Yaamp was gobbled up by Nicehash. It was one of the few alternatives to that lumbering behemoth. Does anyone have a site as good as yaamp that's not nicehash?

Also is it even possible to fix lyra2 on the 970/980? Someone said the memory controller is getting maxed out, in which case this is a hardware limitation and lyra2 will always be gimped on the 970/980?

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June 25, 2015, 05:28:41 AM
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Agh, Yaamp was gobbled up by Nicehash. It was one of the few alternatives to that lumbering behemoth. Does anyone have a site as good as yaamp that's not nicehash?

Also is it even possible to fix lyra2 on the 970/980? Someone said the memory controller is getting maxed out, in which case this is a hardware limitation and lyra2 will always be gimped on the 970/980?

Weren't yaamp's fees substantially higher than nicehash's?

And yaamp's payrates, even before the fees were removed, were lower than nicehash?

I am not one who is happy to see yaamp gone, but I don't understand why you preferred it.

Enlighten me.

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June 25, 2015, 05:36:18 AM
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Agh, Yaamp was gobbled up by Nicehash. It was one of the few alternatives to that lumbering behemoth. Does anyone have a site as good as yaamp that's not nicehash?
Also is it even possible to fix lyra2 on the 970/980? Someone said the memory controller is getting maxed out, in which case this is a hardware limitation and lyra2 will always be gimped on the 970/980?

Djm34 has recoded lyra and it does 2.8 mhash on the 780ti, and a big less on the 980.

current pool stats
r7 240 @ 266k   gtx 750ti 475k  cpu 419
the nvidia is using ccminer with open cl
I've seen the nvidia in the 700k once. cpu seems to always be the fastest
between all 3 I've been as high as 1.2Mhs. that was before I started tweeking the R7.  the 750ti is running @ stock.
ccminer with opencl  Grin (yeah why not...)
current speed on an unreleased ccminer lyra version:
750ti: 1140kh/s
780ti: 2800kh/s
980  : 2400kh/s

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June 25, 2015, 01:42:30 PM
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Mining Maxcoin ( keccak algorithm ) with ccminer gives a huge performance boost over cudaminer very impressed so far.

Tested with Qty 1 Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 Gaming Edition Graphics Card
And overclocked in MSI Afterburner for more performance

I'm using ccminer 1.5.52(sp-mod)  with -i 22.5

stock standard I get around 454000 khash/s
With MSI Afterburner overclocking I get 513000 khash/s

Even my old 750TI gives nice results with MSI Afterburner its quite efficient, its a pity there are little coins using keccak as I would of expected more alt coins to consider using it that actually had some unique features to offer and development support.

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June 25, 2015, 08:54:20 PM
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Agh, Yaamp was gobbled up by Nicehash. It was one of the few alternatives to that lumbering behemoth. Does anyone have a site as good as yaamp that's not nicehash?

Also is it even possible to fix lyra2 on the 970/980? Someone said the memory controller is getting maxed out, in which case this is a hardware limitation and lyra2 will always be gimped on the 970/980?

You could start your own with yaamp's source: https://github.com/globalzon/yaamp
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June 26, 2015, 06:46:13 AM
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Agh, Yaamp was gobbled up by Nicehash. It was one of the few alternatives to that lumbering behemoth. Does anyone have a site as good as yaamp that's not nicehash?

Also is it even possible to fix lyra2 on the 970/980? Someone said the memory controller is getting maxed out, in which case this is a hardware limitation and lyra2 will always be gimped on the 970/980?

Weren't yaamp's fees substantially higher than nicehash's?

And yaamp's payrates, even before the fees were removed, were lower than nicehash?

I am not one who is happy to see yaamp gone, but I don't understand why you preferred it.

Enlighten me.



They didn't always pay less then nicehash and often time nicehash rates were boosted by people mining on yaamp from nicehash. Yaamp mines coins directly, nicehash leases hash to whoever pays the most. Bit different.

Agh, Yaamp was gobbled up by Nicehash. It was one of the few alternatives to that lumbering behemoth. Does anyone have a site as good as yaamp that's not nicehash?
Also is it even possible to fix lyra2 on the 970/980? Someone said the memory controller is getting maxed out, in which case this is a hardware limitation and lyra2 will always be gimped on the 970/980?

Djm34 has recoded lyra and it does 2.8 mhash on the 780ti, and a big less on the 980.

current pool stats
r7 240 @ 266k   gtx 750ti 475k  cpu 419
the nvidia is using ccminer with open cl
I've seen the nvidia in the 700k once. cpu seems to always be the fastest
between all 3 I've been as high as 1.2Mhs. that was before I started tweeking the R7.  the 750ti is running @ stock.
ccminer with opencl  Grin (yeah why not...)
current speed on an unreleased ccminer lyra version:
750ti: 1140kh/s
780ti: 2800kh/s
980  : 2400kh/s


So paid private miner without a price tag? ~_~

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June 26, 2015, 06:51:37 AM
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He has reached 3.2MHASH in the LYRA2RE algo now. I think he will release it with a percentage fee like he did with the whirlcoinx algo. If the optimized miner can do 3 MHASH on the 970 a 30% fee will still give you 2MHASH wich is almost 100% faster than the opensource. (1.1MHASH)
DJm34's Neoscrypt kernal was over 300% faster than the opensource opencl.. He only got a few BTC in donations for his hard work, and his code is being used by many miners with profit..

Here is his neoscrypt thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916336.0

The source got released, but he has done a private neoscrypt kernal that does 750khs/s on the 980 up from 630.

My free opensource sp-modded version is only around 7% faster than 630. around 680khash

Lyra2re profit per day with the sp-mod 53: $0.4$ per day for one gtx 970.
Profit per day for the private djm34 kernal $1,2 per day for one 780ti (compute 3.5)

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June 27, 2015, 03:36:51 AM
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He has reached 3.2MHASH in the LYRA2RE algo now. I think he will release it with a percentage fee like he did with the whirlcoinx algo. If the optimized miner can do 3 MHASH on the 970 a 30% fee will still give you 2MHASH wich is almost 100% faster than the opensource. (1.1MHASH)
DJm34's Neoscrypt kernal was over 300% faster than the opensource opencl.. He only got a few BTC in donations for his hard work, and his code is being used by many miners with profit..

Here is his neoscrypt thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916336.0

The source got released, but he has done a private neoscrypt kernal that does 750khs/s on the 980 up from 630.

My free opensource sp-modded version is only around 7% faster than 630. around 680khash

Lyra2re profit per day with the sp-mod 53: $0.4$ per day for one gtx 970.
Profit per day for the private djm34 kernal $1,2 per day for one 780ti (compute 3.5)

I can calculate profit... 30% fee is pretty steep, even if it's faster then public miner, if it's not more profitable then say mining Quark it's not really worth using. At 2MH, quark is more then 2x as profitable baring power costs. Although it is always nice to have options in case Quark continues its downward spiral.

To stipulate here, I'm not a big miner. I'm not a super small miner either. I can't afford paying a couple thousand for a miner or even a couple hundred each month as the majority of mining profits goes into paying loans (especially after the AMD private miner debacle). Not asking people to feel sorry for me or asking for handouts, but I think there is sometimes a disconnect here where people assume all the miners make fuck tons of money and are super stingy. Some people just don't have money. I think this applies to the majority of miners and anyone that isn't swinging a rack full of 970s in a warehouse somewhere.

This is generally why percentage based miners are the most fair to everyone. If there is a target based fee it can be ramped down over time as well. So initial income will be higher if there is a target amount the developer is looking to reach and it will be less worth reverse engineering and/or acquire less hate.


I still say you can build a company off of a percentage based miner at 2%. While my figures were off as I based BTC prices at $500 a pop instead of $200 due to lack of sleep, it's still $3k per month JUST for Quark JUST on Nicehash. There is plenty of money to be made across all the algos, especially when you dump AMD into the mix.

There is more money to be made there with less investment then say mining itself, but that's always been the way. Mining requires a lot of investment for a very risky ROI.  ASICs, software development, and exchanges have always been the money makers when it comes to cryptos (and of course scams, but we don't count those).

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June 27, 2015, 03:42:27 AM
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He has reached 3.2MHASH in the LYRA2RE algo now. I think he will release it with a percentage fee like he did with the whirlcoinx algo. If the optimized miner can do 3 MHASH on the 970 a 30% fee will still give you 2MHASH wich is almost 100% faster than the opensource. (1.1MHASH)
DJm34's Neoscrypt kernal was over 300% faster than the opensource opencl.. He only got a few BTC in donations for his hard work, and his code is being used by many miners with profit..

Here is his neoscrypt thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916336.0

The source got released, but he has done a private neoscrypt kernal that does 750khs/s on the 980 up from 630.

My free opensource sp-modded version is only around 7% faster than 630. around 680khash

Lyra2re profit per day with the sp-mod 53: $0.4$ per day for one gtx 970.
Profit per day for the private djm34 kernal $1,2 per day for one 780ti (compute 3.5)

I can calculate profit... 30% fee is pretty steep, even if it's faster then public miner, if it's not more profitable then say mining Quark it's not really worth u
not sure where you saw someone asking for 30% fee...

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June 27, 2015, 08:49:35 AM
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Mining Maxcoin ( keccak algorithm ) with ccminer gives a huge performance boost over cudaminer very impressed so far.

Keccak is one of the 9 hashing algorithms in quark and one of the 11 in x11.
Every algorithm has been optimized some are 200% faster than Christian's original ccminer code (blake).

I have over 666 commit's to github the last 10 months. I have spendt 1000's of hours... Smiley


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June 27, 2015, 11:24:25 AM
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I still say you can build a company off of a percentage based miner at 2%. While my figures were off as I based BTC prices at $500 a pop instead of $200 due to lack of sleep, it's still $3k per month JUST for Quark JUST on Nicehash. There is plenty of money to be made across all the algos, especially when you dump AMD into the mix.

Yeah, but as Wolf0 said it would be just a matter of time before the donation part would get cut out.

But... now that yaamp source is public someone could create a custom multipool where you can only connect with a custom miner.
The miner wouldn't have code for donation, simply the pool would take a fixed donation.
For protection, a new version of the (free) miner could be pushed out let's say every few weeks with hardcoded changes while also changing the pool so that only the newest version of the miner could connect.
The periodical changes should discourage people trying to hack the miner unless I missed something.

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June 27, 2015, 11:45:19 AM
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Every algorithm has been optimized some are 200% faster than Christian's original ccminer code (blake).

I have over 666 commit's to github the last 10 months. I have spendt 1000's of hours... Smiley

same, maybe more hours.. and no... you didnt took blake from christian ccminer... i wrote it... and djm reused that for lyra2

git log blake32.cu

didnt know when i did it that it was also in cudaminer :p

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June 27, 2015, 12:18:35 PM
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Every algorithm has been optimized some are 200% faster than Christian's original ccminer code (blake).

I have over 666 commit's to github the last 10 months. I have spendt 1000's of hours... Smiley

same, maybe more hours.. and no... you didnt took blake from christian ccminer... i wrote it... and djm reused that for lyra2

git log blake32.cu

didnt know when i did it that it was also in cudaminer :p

Well its heroes like you 2 that make mining worthwhile, truly amazing work being done lately with all this mining software, without the software being updated for new hardware and drivers constantly emerging, alt coins would be dead without the talents of people like you guys. Have any of you considered joining any of the devs for your preferred coins to casually help out?
I know Maxcoin team for example has had a few big coin reward bounty's for projects that nobody has claimed yet.  They really need an android wallet its been on the cards for some time but there is little interest it seems.

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June 27, 2015, 04:41:20 PM
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So basically what you're writing is:

thank you for your for your work guys. Have you considered helping even more?
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June 28, 2015, 02:00:16 AM
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So basically what you're writing is:

thank you for your for your work guys. Have you considered helping even more?

No not at all. I did say casually help out and I don't expect them to do anymore then what they already have done, there is no obligation to any of these guys so I don't know why it was read this way sometimes words can be misguided I suppose. I know none of these guys actually get paid for this as its not like a day job for them or a career move. They are probably already IT professionals working as programmers or doing a degree at university and maybe partaking in some projects as a hobby/interest in cryptocoins and maybe learning a few things on the way too. I would say this would also look very impressive on a resume too Smiley

I was simply asking as I was curious if they are interested in any development in coins or just in mining software aspect. These guys are talented and I think would be a great asset to a dev team with all these improvement they have made, that's all I was trying to say.
Maybe they might some day make their own alt coin with some new blockchain features never seen before that could become a game changer, interesting times we live in no doubt.
In case your wondering I have no affiliation with any coin development team and zero experience in coding, not trying to recruit anyone in case you accuse me of this  Kiss

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June 28, 2015, 05:51:45 AM
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No, I definitely didn't read your post as a recruitment. It was just a bit opaque.
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June 28, 2015, 07:50:13 AM
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I still say you can build a company off of a percentage based miner at 2%. While my figures were off as I based BTC prices at $500 a pop instead of $200 due to lack of sleep, it's still $3k per month JUST for Quark JUST on Nicehash. There is plenty of money to be made across all the algos, especially when you dump AMD into the mix.

Yeah, but as Wolf0 said it would be just a matter of time before the donation part would get cut out.

But... now that yaamp source is public someone could create a custom multipool where you can only connect with a custom miner.
The miner wouldn't have code for donation, simply the pool would take a fixed donation.
For protection, a new version of the (free) miner could be pushed out let's say every few weeks with hardcoded changes while also changing the pool so that only the newest version of the miner could connect.
The periodical changes should discourage people trying to hack the miner unless I missed something.

That's where DRM comes in. It only gets cut out because developers for kernels really don't spend any time on the actual program itself. They're all modified versions of the same miner all the way back to the beginning. Activation, encryption, verification... all things that could be done, but would require development time. Of course something a company can tackle. Continued support and updated versions with rotations on all the above keep people in the loop.

At a low enough donation level, people don't take time or want to cut it out either. Just the same as people buy legal programs, people are willing to pay for software as long as it's reasonable. All of this put together would keep such things to a minimum. The examples of reverse engineered miners involve quite large fees.

And yup custom mining pool, updates. There was a groestl AMD custom miner that did that. Long story short, there are plenty of ways to deal with this and keep people mostly legit. It's not about getting everyone, it's about discouraging people from doing it and making it not worth their time. Added features, benefits, constant updates, feeling that the developers care also keep people honest because they like that sort of thing. That may be too much to tackle for one person, but not for a company.

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June 28, 2015, 07:58:03 AM
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I just would like make my peer aware of an auction for six 750TI 2GBs at this forum. So far bid is 1.51 BTC.  Shocked

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June 28, 2015, 08:47:34 AM
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For me cpuminer was the first project working on both vstudio and gcc (linux + mingw), even if i had to create the vstudio project. I learnt a lot with that. I only made small projects before in Visual C.

Then i moved to ccminer to learn cuda... I work on these two project since one year at almost 100% of my time. I had also to setup dependencies and a MinGW64 build env.

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